Hi Herbert!
Shyness, I think that's quite a barrier to cross when you're new to a community. And when I see people speaking about Croquet and HOM (none of which I have managed to grasp the essence of), indeed I am a bit discouraged to ask questions like "how do I create a simple input window?"
Splitting the community wouldn't be much of a problem, I think, as the experienced squeakers can also take part in the new list, which would be for the benefit of both them and the newcomers.
As you said:
The people doing the work of developing Squeak don't stumble about what bugs a newbie anymore.
Exactly that's what I think. And I think that is why there aren't enough good tutorials out there.
And again, I think the splitting of the community would not be that much of a problem, if the new list would be successful at levelling up the newcomers to the point where they are able to take part in the main dev list's discussions.
Herbert König írta:
Hello Attis,
NA> I am a newcomer to the world of Squeak and Smalltalk, but already an NA> experienced programmer in some other languages (including Java, which I NA> think I'll never use again :) ) I would like to dive into developing NA> useful applications in Squeak, but don't really know where to start, NA> right now I am trying to familiarize myself with Morphic programming. NA> So, if this collective of Good Souls is together, I'd be the first one NA> to sign up to the new squeak-starters list. Thanks for the great idea - NA> sounds just like what I've been looking for!
just go ahead, I guess I'm new enough to remember how I felt in the beginning. And my background is like yours. (Except for Java :-)
Actually there is a drawback in a newbie list. It splits up the community.
The people doing the work of developing Squeak don't stumble about what bugs a newbie anymore.
So mail me in private, wait for the new list or just ask here!
Cheers
Herbert mailto:herbertkoenig@gmx.net