-----Original Message----- From: Lex Spoon Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:55 PM
Which fork do you think will get Tweak?
What is the potential that Croquet development will surpass Squeak and make Squeak irrelevant? The advancements that we can expect from Croquet are not just UI based. If we move towards more isolated systems what is the incentive to continue collaboration?
I'm not suggesting that removing eToys will be the cause of major problems; there have been good arguments both ways. I'm saying that we are already isolated and need to work towards being a central location for hosting these advancements. There are a number of diverse community interests that are best served by the Squeak community. Imagine contributing business applications to a croquet community? Hopefully the community will rise to the challenge and work to integrate other efforts.
What I'm suggesting is that we need to find ways to encourage this cross pollination and if we want to benefit from the other development efforts in Smalltalk we need to find a way to mobilize our volunteer community to make this happen. Far from telling people what to do; I'm suggesting that we would benefit from building integration teams to bring in Strongtalk, Tweak, Croquet and the new eToys. We will all benefit from having more users input to help direct where base Squeak goes, instead of letting Squeak float along and possibly sink, or get off track.
As Lex said, "Sharing an image is painful, but there are benefits to both camps if it can be accomplished." I agree.
Ron Teitelbaum