Squeak-dev August 2018

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by Keith 01 Aug '18

01 Aug '18

Hello Squeakers, I thought I would add squeak back into my mailbox and find out how things are going over here. Keith

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Survey: what do you do with Squeak, what do you *want* to do?
by Benoit St-Jean 01 Aug '18

01 Aug '18

Q-What do you use Squeak for? Genetic algorithms, scripting (a LOT), experimenting, Euler Project code, a chess engine, random data generator, cleaning up/transforming crappy data from databases and/or other sources, keeping up with new ideas in Smalltalk. Q-If you don't use Squeak, why not? Lack of a decent GUI builder. And unstability of the base code and/or difficulty to find code/frameworks/applications that load in-one-shot without me having to debug in the first place! Q-If you used Squeak in the past and don't now, what pulled you away? Lack of a decent GUI builder. Lack of a decent Windows support. Q-What does Squeak lack that you think might make you use it for 'regular' development? A decent GUI builder. And a central code repository that wouldn't make loading code a crazy adventure every time. If I want Python code, all I have to do is to visit PyPI. If I want Ruby code, all I have to do is to visit RubyGems. If I want R code, all I have to do is to visit CRAN R. If I want VisualWorks code, all I have to do is to visit Cincom Public Repository... Now, if I want Squeak code, I have to visit SqueakSource, SmalltalkHub, GitHub, SqueakSource3, SqueakMap and use a GitHub tool, or file in some code, or use the package manager, or use Monticello, or use the Package Universe browser, or Gofer, or the SqueakMap Catalog Browser, or... Well, you get the picture. Besides, once I've found what I was looking for, often times the code doesn't load because it was ported to Pharo... or it's never been updated to be compatible with the current Squeak version. Another tool Squeak needs is an image packager (à la VW or VAST or Dolphin) that works! NOT scripts! Q-What things are too hard or annoying to do? Building GUIs, again. Package an image to deploy. Keeping up with the base code. Who need traits, really? Who uses traits, really? It would have been more beneficial to invest that time/effort into cleaning up morphic, modularizing the code, create a GUI builder and an Image Stripper ! Q-What would you like to be able to use Squeak for? Everything. I've always been a Smalltalker! ----------------- Benoît St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pinterest: benoitstjean Instagram: Chef_Benito IRC: lamneth Blogue: endormitoire.wordpress.com "A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero". (A. Einstein)

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5.2 alpha test results: VM 201807260206 & trunk image - Windows 7 32-bit
by Tim Johnson 01 Aug '18

01 Aug '18

Hi, I downloaded an ran the All-in-one and wanted to put it through its paces on Windows 7 32-bit. (I recognize 32-bit is a dying breed, but nonetheless...) Test steps: * ran squeak.bat * skipped configuration * ran update (to #18160) * ran Installer ensureRecentMetacello * ran: Metacello new baseline: 'Seaside3'; repository: 'github://SeasideSt/Seaside:master/repository'; load Please note: my notes below are from my initial run and have not been verified by duplicating my initial run. results: * initial fetches of BaselineOf* via Metacello all seem to initially stall, then retry, then succeed. My internet connection is pretty fast (gigabit fiber). In Transcript, each shows similar to: ...RETRY->BaselineOfSeaside3 ...RETRY->BaselineOfGrease * the VM opened a Debug Console. Its text: LoadLibrary(UUIDPlugin) (998: Invalid access to memory location. ) LoadLibrary(UUIDPlugin.dll) (998: Invalid access to memory location. ) UUIDPlugin was mentioned on the mailing list about two years ago, but I don't know if this is related. * Grease throws various Undeclared warnings in the transcript; I wonder if it will need some adjustments for Squeak 5.2, or what. Some examples: BlockContext>>fixCallbackTemps (home is Undeclared) BlockContext>>tempVarRefs(method is shadowed) BlockContext>>tempVarRefs (home is Undeclared) BlockContext>>tempVarRefs (startpc is Undeclared) I decided to run some tests. Results: * Grease tests all pass, though one prompts for author initials. * KernelTests: 1 error, 1 unexpected pass. passed: FloatTest>>#testTimesTwoPowerGradualUnderflow failed: AllocationTest>>#testOutOfMemorySignal (failed: #vmParameterAt:put: ... primitive 254) ? * NetworkTests: all green * "Tests-*" -- excepting Tests-Bugs, Tests-Release, DecompilerTests* I interrupted & restarted these tests partway thru in order to deselect DecompilerTests. Hopefully that didn't affect my results, but is worth mentioning. 14 failures: MCWorkingCopyTest>>#testDoubleRepeatedMerge MCWorkingCopyTest>>#testRedundantMerge MCWorkingCopyTest>>#testSnapshotAndLoad PackageDependencyTest>>#testEtoys PackageDependencyTest>>#testMorphic PackageDependencyTest>>#testMorphicExtras PackageDependencyTest>>#testNetwork PackageDependencyTest>>#testSUnitGUI PackageDependencyTest>>#testSound PackageDependencyTest>>#testSystem PackageDependencyTest>>#testTools UserInterfaceThemeTest>>#test01ImplementationHooks UserInterfaceThemeTest>>#test05ClearProperty UserInterfaceThemeTest>>#test06SetAndClearUnkownProperty 2 errors: MCWorkingCopyRenameTest>>#testRenamePrefix MCWorkingCopyRenameTest>>#testRenameSuffix * SqueakSSLTests -- all green! * WebClientTests -- two failures: WebClientServerTest>>#testLogging200 WebClientServerTest>>#testLogging404 * ChronologyTests -- one failure (maybe this is an expected failure) DateAndTimeLeapTest>>#testAsSeconds Thanks everybody, Tim

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