Nevermind - I've figured out how to access the (truly awful constantly timing out) application.
On Mar 29, 2007, at 6:44 PM, Todd Blanchard wrote:
I have read the Ruby on Rails book in a study group and built a trivial application with it just to see. I suspect I still have it installed on this machine somewhere or other. I also work in Seaside every day and have experience with other frameworks like WebObjects and the whole J2EE nightmare.
So I think I have a pretty good idea where Seaside falls short - mostly it is on the persistence layer.
Where can I access the proposals?
-Todd Blanchard
On Mar 29, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Ralph Johnson wrote:
The proposals tend to fall into several categories, and there are some proposals that are very similar. There are in fact five proposals (from four people) that propose adding a module to Seaside to make it like Ruby on Rails. I think that this topic has the biggest potential to make an impact. Seaside is powerful, but it is not easy to learn for people who do not already know Smalltalk well. If there was a "Seaside on Sails" that was as easy to learn as Ruby on Rails, Seaside (and Squeak) could really take off.
It looks to me like these proposals are being overlooked by the mentors, perhaps because none of us are web developers or have used Ruby on Rails. I haven't use it either, but I have read the documentation and I can see why it has made such a big impact. I'd love to see Squeak capture some of that market. So, I urge mentors to read these proposals and to vote on them.
There are a lot of tool-oriented proposals. I tend to like them, but other mentors do, too, so I won't say much about them.
There are a couple of proposals to make something like "rake" for Squeak. I don't understand these. I've built several large systems in Smalltalk and never felt the need for make. I don't know rake, and when I read the proposals I feel like I am missing something. Could someone explain why we need something like this?
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