Squeak-dev June 2005

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RE: Password for uploading in Swiki?
by Frank Shearar 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

German Morales <germanmorales(a)delta-sys.com> wrote: > > I understand that the password is required because some vandals don't > respect the "Acceptable Use" rules, as can be seen in the > "Acceptable Use" > page: > http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/2595 I've just fixed this page. I'll go and look for more vandalised pages now. frank ******************************************************************* This email and attachments (if any) must be swept for viruses before opening. Their contents may be confidential or privileged and are intended solely for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient and you have received this email in error you must not read or use this email and should notify RNID on: +44 (0) 20 7296 8282. RNID, Registered Office 19-23 Featherstone Street, London EC1Y 8SL No. 454169 (England, Registered Charity No. 207720) ********************************************************************

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Proportionate Stress
by Hoang Hao 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

I have three classes. They all are subclasses of morph. One of the class named DisplayGUI which contains the second class, tankPane, on the left and the third class, Button Pane, on the right. I made the layoutPolicy of the DisplayGUI to be proportional. The DisplayGUI rRisizing and hResizing is #shrinkWrap. Whenever I stress the DisplayGUI, I like to have the TankPane and ButtonGUI to stress with DisplayGUI. Please let me know how I can do this. Thanks, Phuc H. Dao --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out!

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Re: 3.8 and french (and locales)
by Lex Spoon 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

Tim Rowledge <tim(a)rowledge.org> wrote: > "Lex Spoon" <lex(a)cc.gatech.edu> wrote: > > Most of that spec sounds good, although it is overkill for the question > > at hand the language by itself would work. All we need is a stupid > > primLanguage function that has a fallback to an image-level preference. > > This might make a great hacking session on #squeak some time if you can > > gather VM hackers for at least two platforms. > A LocalePlugin is already written to the spec Mike Reuger passed around a while > back and it will appear in the next release of VMMaker. I even have a sample > implementation of the platform specific parts for RISC OS. Cool! I would suggest, though, that the time parts be cut back for now, given the now-known race condition. Instead of reporting all that it does, just have it report the prefered time zone, and let the image-level code do timezone computations. I'm sorry I didn't see this spec before and so could not comment on it before now, but I'm also curious why this problem is in the spec since this topic has gone around the mailing list several times and I consistently pointed out the potential race condition if you aren't careful. Do people disagree this is a problem? I don't think it's a *big* problem, but it is a real pity to enshrine it in an API that we will probably be stuck with for a while, and there is a solution that isn't hard. If we are in a hurry to have local time support, we could do worse than using the already-implemented TimePlugin that I wrote in 2000. It supports querying local and UTC times without the race condition described before. Its main limitation is that it only goes to seconds granularity. http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2000-June/014127.html If this sounds interesting, I can probably find some time this weekend to tune it up in whatever ways people would like. Since it uses common Posixy functions, it will probably compile without modification on a large number of platforms. Also, don't forget Dave Lewis's code for doing timezone computations. Race condition aside, I don't see any reason at all to write new code that just uses an offset, when he has already released all the code necessary to do timezone computations properly. (Or at least, to the level that people expect from typical desktop software.) Marcus, I share your general frustration, but I think it is more an issue of having good leaders than having the raw work available. As you can see, there is a wealth of raw code available at this point, and there appear to be plenty of people willing to do the work. We just need leaders who will act on it, and in this case it looks like Tim is has stepped up to move things along. -Lex

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Re: Changing "Harvesting party" mail title
by jp1660＠att.net 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

When I get a chance to "harvest", it's invariably outside of the times of the parties, but I can see the usefulness of the parties to attract new people to the harvesting process. Besides, Ken can attest to the times I've hit the parties because I needed to sanity check the problems that I have had in the past with testing the posts. :^) -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: stéphane ducasse <ducasse(a)iam.unibe.ch> > Hi all, > > I discussed with ken about the fact that the harvesting party emails > are counter-productive > and that I would like to see them rename as SqueakOnline, SqueakChat. > > The main problem is that right now the email gives the impression > that something > is happening but NOTHING happen in the harvesting. (alex started to > harvest a bit > and me too) but beside that this is not during the parties and now > nothing happen. > > So I would prefer that you realize that if you think that if > something is happening > this is totally wrong. > > I could not convince ken and he asked me to ask you to react. So please > let him know that this is not productive to let people think that > some progress > are made to include fixes and enh when nothing happen. > > I think that the voices of the previous harvesters are important: so > marcus, doug, > mike, yoshiki, bert let us know. > > > Note that I have nothing against the chat over irc because this is a > cool idea. > But right now, it gives the wrong message > > Stef >

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Password for uploading in Swiki?
by German Morales 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

Hi all, I'm trying to upload a file to the Squeak Swiki in http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak, but it insist that I must provide a password. Can anyone send it to me? privately? I understand that the password is required because some vandals don't respect the "Acceptable Use" rules, as can be seen in the "Acceptable Use" page: http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/2595 Thanks in advance, German Morales

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Out of memory on linux, Any advice ?
by Squeak Smalltalk 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

Hi, I try to run one squeak server (seaside) on one of our debian linux server. I've got a out of memory message :( Any advice squeak Seaside-2.5.image out of memory 1096961620 SmalltalkImage>snapshot:andQuit:embedded: 1096961528 SmalltalkImage>snapshot:andQuit: 1096961436 TheWorldMenu>saveAndQuit 1096961252 TheWorldMenu>doMenuItem:with: 1096961160 [] in MenuItemMorph>invokeWithEvent: 1096961068 BlockContext>ensure: 1096960976 Cursor>showWhile: 1096960780 MenuItemMorph>invokeWithEvent: 1096960684 MenuItemMorph>mouseUp: 1096960592 MenuItemMorph>handleMouseUp: 1096960328 MouseButtonEvent>sentTo: 1096960236 Morph>handleEvent: 1096960144 MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchDefault:with: 1096960052 MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 1096959960 Morph>processEvent:using: 1096959868 MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchDefault:with: 1096959760 MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 1096959628 Morph>processEvent:using: 1096959536 Morph>processEvent: 1096959444 MenuMorph>handleFocusEvent: 1096959168 [] in HandMorph>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: 1096959260 [] in PasteUpMorph>becomeActiveDuring: 1096959076 BlockContext>on:do: 1096958984 PasteUpMorph>becomeActiveDuring: 1096958800 HandMorph>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: 1096958708 HandMorph>sendEvent:focus:clear: 1096958564 HandMorph>sendMouseEvent: 1096958472 HandMorph>handleEvent: 1096958152 HandMorph>processEvents 1096958244 [] in WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 1096958060 SequenceableCollection>do: 1096957968 WorldState>handsDo: 1096957876 WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 1096957784 WorldState>doOneCycleFor: 1096957692 PasteUpMorph>doOneCycle 1096847764 [] in Project class>spawnNewProcess 1096847856 [] in BlockContext>newProcess

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Squeak 3.1 lost in webspace
by Samir Saidani 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

Hi, I need for an old projet to use a Squeak 3.1 (Squeak3.1a-4173) and oh surprise : ftp://st.cs.uiuc.edu/pub/Smalltalk/Squeak/ ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/smalltalk/Squeak ftp://ftp.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/pub/Smalltalk/Smalltalk/Squeak/ Squeak 3.1 missing ! Is there also black hole in webspace ? ;-) Regards, Samir -- Samir SAIDANI PhD Student in CS / Doctorant en informatique web : http://www.info.unicaen.fr/~saidani Universite de Caen - Laboratoire GREYC tel : 02-31-56-74-30 Equipe MAD - Campus II - 14032 Caen Cedex fax : 02-31-56-76-30

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Re: Distributed Squeak Programs
by Chris Muller 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

> I would like to know how I can develop distributed Squeak programs with the > same syntax and semantics used for non-distributed programs. If you wish to write a program where multiple users in different locations collaborate on a shared model of objects, you might be interested in an object database such as Magma. - Chris

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Re: Does Squeak support NTLM authentication
by Mike 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

Clever. Thanks Colin. Take care, Mike. Receive and share. On Tue Jun 07 06:54:19 PDT 2005, Colin Putney <cputney(a)wiresong.ca> wrote: > Mike wrote: > >> Its the proxy that requires NTLM auth. What do you reckon I >> need to do? > > Mike, have a look at APS: > > http://www.geocities.com/rozmanov/ntlm/ > > It's a proxy that you can put in front of your NTLM proxy and > which will do NTLM authentication for you on the back end. I > found it very useful once when I was trapped behind a broken MS > proxy server. > > I looked into doing something similar in Squeak and concluded > that it would be feasible but a fair amount of work. Squeak > doesn't implement NTLM authentication in its HTTP client, so > you'd have to write that yourself. If you do go that route, the > source code and documentation to APS should be helpful. > > Colin > > > > >

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Re: [Seaside] Jump somewhere after rendering
by Squeak Smalltalk 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

Hi, Is there any shopping site running with seaside on the net? Is there any commercial website on the net running seaside ? Best Regards W.

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