Squeak-dev February 2007

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WebTeam report January 2007
by Karl 08 Feb '07

08 Feb '07

Lot's of stuff happended this month. Most notably Brad Fullers rewrite of www.squeak.org front page, making the news feed box and various fixes to the css. Thanks, Brad :-) Larry Trutter has been working on the 'About' page and I think it's nearing completion. Raymond Asselin has helped out building MacOS X 3.9 packages with the latest VM. I have copied the latest Unix/Linux VMs from squeakvm.org the 3.9 Unix directory on the ftp. I have read through the web site and noticed we could rewrite a lot of the info there. Also the screenshots could be updated. So if you have a urge to make some screenshots or write, join us at the webteam list: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam Again, thanks for all the great work guys. Karl

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[ANN] eToys package for the KernelImage/MinimalMorphic
by Pavel Krivanek 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

Hi Squeakers, I've finally created the differential Monticello package for the KernelImage with MinimalMorphic that loads the rest of Squeak 3.9 code. Of course this package contains mostly EToys. Many things have to be done (load all fonts etc.) but this is only the first step. See http://www.comtalk.net/Squeak/98 for more details. Screenshot attached. Enjoy! -- Pavel

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Re: Bringing a window on top on mouse over
by Frank Urbach 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

Hi Cedrick, With the silent help from Lukas :-) (Eventhandling in Mondrian) you could try this: Subclass a Morph or SystemWindow or whatever you want. After this implement following: #handleMouseOver: anEvent super handleMouseOver: anEvent. anEvent hand newKeyboardFocus: self. self mouseOver: anEvent and #mouseOver: anEvent self activate. anEvent wasHandled: true. It works for me in a 3.9 image. HTH Cheers, Frank -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Bringing a window on top on mouse over (07-Feb-2007 11:48) From: Cédrick Béler <cbeler(a)enit.fr> To: frank.urbach(a)schmees.com > Hi > > Do you know if there is a way to bring morph on top just by moving the > mouse over... > > Thanks > > Cédrick >

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[ANN][Squeak-dev Image] Version 76
by Damien Cassou 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

Squeak-dev image is an image made for squeak developers based on Squeak3.9-final-7067. If you use it, please tell me. You can download it here: http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev/ Changes in this version: ------------------------ - Use 3.9 version of OmniBrowser. It's older but does not crash on right click. - Use squeaksource instead of squeakmap for RefactoringEngine and SmaccDec - Add an autogenerated text about ImageForDevelopers versions - Prepare DiagramBrowser As usually, all installed packages have been updated. (prepared packages are packages not loaded in the image, but a simple click load them) Future work: ------------ - Wait for feedback - Prepare Connectors Please tell me what is your experience with this version. Please tell me what you want for this image, this is for you.

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Ogg/Theora version of your 2003-04-24 lecture
by Hilaire Fernandes 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

Alan & al, I pointed to some friends of me your 2003-04-24 demonstration, but my friend Odile was not able to use the original video format with her Linux based system, so I did a Ogg/Theora conversion so she can enjoy your demo with the VLC software. The video is at http://squeak.ofset.org/future_software_development_series.kay-alan.lecture… May be you may want to copy it along the orginal video at http://ftp.squeak.org/Media/AlanKay Hilaire Fernandes

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Bringing a window on top on mouse over
by Cédrick Béler 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

Hi Do you know if there is a way to bring morph on top just by moving the mouse over... Thanks Cédrick

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C5 conference report
by Serge Stinckwich 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

Hi all, for those who might be interessed, i made several reports of the last C5 conference on my blog, here : http://doesnotunderstand.free.fr/?cat=59 The reports are in french, but with Google translate, the transcripts are almost readable in english ;-) Have fun, -- oooo Dr. Serge Stinckwich OOOOOOOO Université de Caen>CNRS UMR 6072>GREYC>MAD OOESUGOO http://purl.org/net/SergeStinckwich oooooo Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] \ / ##

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[From the soapbox:] Update stream are essential!!!
by Jerome Peace 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

[From the soapbox:] Update stream are essential!!! Hi Andreas, > I don't think this has anything at all to do with > updates or Monticello > - just with the fact that some of the smartest and most > efficient > Squeakers in the world put full-time effort into > building a first-class > eToys experience on OLPC. My point is that 9 out of ten of the "smartest and most efficient Squeakers". choose to develop and express their vision, focus, with execution using update streams. Process has a direct relationship to results. Anyone can update and save a current OPLC system in a handful of minutes. What I am focusing on is the need for the tightest possible feedback-update-distribution-feedback cycle. With an emphasis on wide distribution to gather a lot of feedback each cycle. It is VERY lacking with the MC process for developing the Whole image. Yours in service, --Jerome Peace >Or do you really expect the (largely unorganized) Squeak.org community to be able to effectively compete with a small, dedicated group of people focusing on a specific project? Well, I was thinking more along the lines of utilizing their results. I want the smartest and most efficient programmers on my side. The goal is to get a vibrant living system into the hands of those who can grow it and grow with it. I am perfectly happy with what ever self organizing way develops to bring that about. Respectfully yours, -- Jerome Peace > > Andreas Raab andreas.raab at gmx.de > Tue Feb 6 23:12:14 UTC 2007 wrote: > > Jerome Peace wrote: > > Look at how fast the OPLC team develops improvements > > and look at the level of feedback they get. > > > > Now compare that with the glacial pace of the squeak > > image. > > I don't think this has anything at all to do with > updates or Monticello > - just with the fact that some of the smartest and most > efficient > Squeakers in the world put full-time effort into > building a first-class > eToys experience on OLPC. Or do you really expect the > (largely > unorganized) Squeak.org community to be able to > effectively compete with > a small, dedicated group of people focusing on a > specific project? In my > experience that ain't going to happen. Vision, focus, > execution. > > Cheers, > - Andreas > *** ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097

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Making Squeak more accessible and used - reversing the trend
by Brad Fuller 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

All, I've been wondering how to show the power of objects and the power of an environment like smalltalk to everyday users. Probably the best way is to provide features within the environment that they can really use every day - right out of the box. The idea is secondary to my (motivated, but not much action) desire to make Squeak available and usable to everyday users. Today, popular applications are vertical and on disparate OSs. There are some applications that talk to one another using different forms of communication, depending on the OS. Some mainstream type apps are cross platform - like firefox, Thunderbird. But, this bandaid is not the vision Alan, Dan, and the rest of the Xerox PARC Learning team had for the personal computer and dynabook. I'm sure they can be improved, but I really like their ideas. I know I'm preaching to the choir! It would be nice to reverse the trend, or at the very least provide a usable alternative. The world missed a great opportunity in the early 80s. Today people really can't customize their environment to their needs - and the dynabook vision was just that. I want to see that work. If the squeak community could provide leadership by creating and producing significant features that most people need today, we might get the ball rolling for users to start using squeak and for developers to see the richness of the environment - and thus start the development cycle to provide more features for everyday users. (apps like seaside are doing significant work in this area for developers.) I believe the top applications used today, in popularity order, are: 1. Email (including calendaring) 2. Web 3. Word Processing 4. Spreadsheet 5. Presentation Maybe I missed something, or maybe I'm wrong -- this is off the top of my head. Sounds right, though. (4 of these apps are in the MS Office product and 3 in the OpenOffice package.) If we could concentrate on the first two that included critical modules that provided the popular features of an email app and a web browser (so users could mix and match and see the greatness of objects working in the environment), I think we would have gone a long way to starting this re-revolution. And, nothing is stopping us from creating new features that would be a boon to productivity. Just think of the cool things people could do if the basic building blocks (and examples of how to utilize them) were present in squeak? They may do things with email and browsing that we never thought of. And, we would be teaching them the power of the environment. Maybe this is a wild idea. But, I actually believe this has been already cited - most likely in this mailing list. It seems extremely doable. There's nothing technically hard about it. It's more of a coordination issue and, of course, a time issue (maybe we can come up with something to help the time issue for developers.) Crazy idea? Is it worth trying to get some people excited about this idea and creating some of these modules? Maybe you have a better idea to show people the power of the object and a real workable dynabook? How could we get this rolling? A dedicated team? I can certainly provide time for the management of the project(s). what do you think? -- brad fuller www.bradfuller.com

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OpenSSL regains FIPS 140-2 validation
by Ron Teitelbaum 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

Hi All, I just got this so thought I'd forward the news! This is very good news for open source cryptography! Ron Teitelbaum Squeak Cryptography Team Leader _____ From: John Weathersby Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:19 PM February 6, 2007 Certificate 733 was posted just a few minutes ago. http://csrc.nist.gov/cryptval/140-1/1401val2007.htm Here are the details. http://www.oss-institute.org/index.php?option=com_content <http://www.oss-institute.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=210& Itemid=123> &task=view&id=210&Itemid=123 let the games begin. jmw Special thanks to: Steve Marquess and Dr. Steve Henson for their tireless work on this project. John M. Weathersby, Jr. Executive Director Open Source Software Institute National Center for Open Source Policy and Research tel: 601.427.0152 Ad maiorem dei gloriam (AMDG) Audentes fortuna juvat (fortune favors the bold)

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