Steve-
On Feb 24, 2007, at 12:43 PM, Steve Burbeck wrote:
Yes, I do have a Methods distribution from 1985 complete with manual, two floppies and the license. It is an interesting historical note that Digitalk license protected the binary interpreter but gave essentially unlimited rights to the Smalltalk Source Code including rights to distribute, sell, license, lease or loan them as you wish! So, anyone who wishes to reimplement the interpreter is home free. I would guess that it wouldn't be a huge task to repurpose the Squeak interpreter to run Methods. But with Squeak available, who would bother?
Whether the 5.25" floppies are readable is another matter. Needless to say, I don't even have a floppy drive to find out.
Thanks for the reply! I'm not interested in re-implementing the Methods interpreter in Squeak, or anything like that. I'm mostly interested in playing around with these old Smalltalk systems, and in general other development and application software from years past. However, that bit of info about the license is really interesting- it's a shame that sort of flexibility is so rare these days.
Would you be willing to lend, give or sell your copy of Methods? I've access to an older machine with a 5.25" drive, and I can copy the disks and send the files back to you.
Regards, Aaron
Regards, Steve Burbeck
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It was Methods. I think Steve Burbeck still has a copy. Steve?
As for other DOS versions, I have the old ParcPlace ST80 for DOS. It struggles to run in a dos box, but on an old DOS install it should run fine.
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Franz-
On Feb 23, 2007, at 3:49 AM, Franz Josef Konrad wrote: Smalltalk V286 is running in a full graphical
environment. Have a look here: http://squeak.sava-systeme.de/ smt-286.jpg
good
shape ;-).
help. Smalltalk/V- I just can't remember for sure what that other version of Smalltalk is. I purchased it used when I made frequent trips to a local computer store scouting for any used software that had to do with programming/IDEs, etc. Speaking of which, that is certainly something you don't see anymore- computer stores that sell used software. But, unlike my Smalltalk/V disks, I can't find the disks of this mysterious other Smalltalk I once purchased. Methods sounds familiar, that may have been it. with screenshots of various smalltalk
images anywhere? A couriosity perhaps would be this one: http:// squeak.sava-systeme.de/jigsaw.jpg
with VisualSmaltallk Enterprise
but as you know it never got into production.
don't know of any site like that, but it would be fun to work on compiling one! Especially if we could get access to some of the software and create new screenshots, direct comparison shots. Something like a GUIdebook entry for Smalltalks over the years ( GUIdebook = http://www.guidebookgallery.org/ screenshots ). with OS/
2 3 running I would be interested. I have some old VSE OS/2 images I would like to run again.
very fond memories of OS/ 2 2.1, though I never had Warp 3 or 4.