Hello,
I uploaded the m17n SAR package for beta. If you're interested in it, take a look at
http://squeaklet.com:8080/m17n/3
The latin-1 character input is supposed to be ok. But I need you guys to double check.
The TTFontDescription>>migrateSqueakToIso is included, but it doesn't seem that it is doing what it should do.
We have tons of projects from previous Nihongo4 image. We need to check loading them works ok.
As always, any comments are welcome.
Thank you,
-- Yoshiki
Hi Yoshiki,
Great job!
Installing the new jar in an empty 3.6b image I got some warning on the Transcript. I put them in: http://squeaklet.com:8080/m17n/3
Some of them looks like packages I need in the Image before installing (HtmlEntity, TestInterpreterPlugin and VRMLClassNode).
Q: The .jar install a .dll file, is this file required? Can the m17n stuff work in other OS but windows?
Cheers,
Diego
PS: We need our (our=translators) mail-list.
Hello,
I uploaded the m17n SAR package for beta. If you're interested in it, take a look at
http://squeaklet.com:8080/m17n/3
The latin-1 character input is supposed to be ok. But I need you guys to double check.
The TTFontDescription>>migrateSqueakToIso is included, but it doesn't seem that it is doing what it should do.
We have tons of projects from previous Nihongo4 image. We need to check loading them works ok.
As always, any comments are welcome.
Thank you,
-- Yoshiki
2nd. report:
- When I switch to Spanish, I can't type Spanish letters (like Ñ, ñ, á, é, í, ó and ú). But I can when I switch to German, any tip?
- I get some deprecation-warnings when I switch the languaje. -- Project>>setPaletteFor: --> Smalltalk imageImports (3 times)
Q: Do you prefer these reports by email?
Cheers,
Diego
Bert Freudenberg wrote:
diegogomezdeck@consultar.com wrote:
Q: Do you prefer these reports by email?
Yes, keep them up. Who is in charge of setting up an i18n/m17n-related list? How about this:
squeak-int@lists.squeakfoundation.org
Just did this 5 minutes ago:
http://www.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/m17n
I'm fine with either one.
Michael
Michael Rueger wrote:
Bert Freudenberg wrote:
diegogomezdeck@consultar.com wrote:
Q: Do you prefer these reports by email?
Yes, keep them up. Who is in charge of setting up an i18n/m17n-related list? How about this:
squeak-int@lists.squeakfoundation.orgJust did this 5 minutes ago:
http://www.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/m17n
I'm fine with either one.
Michael
Great! Now could you perhaps enable some other languages on that page? ;-)
-- Bert
Diego,
- When I switch to Spanish, I can't type Spanish letters (like Ñ, ñ, á, é,
í, ó and ú). But I can when I switch to German, any tip?
We need to create a class called Spanish, which can be just a copy of German. The reasoning is that we are going to want to have language dependent case-insensitive string match functions and those LanguageEnvironments implements such language dependent stuff.
Also, a bit more robust default TextInputInterpreter creation is needed.
- I get some deprecation-warnings when I switch the languaje.
-- Project>>setPaletteFor: --> Smalltalk imageImports (3 times)
Yes. See the text in the workspace...
Q: Do you prefer these reports by email?
Yes.
Thank you,
-- Yoshiki
Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
Diego,
- When I switch to Spanish, I can't type Spanish letters (like Ñ, ñ, á, é,
í, ó and ú). But I can when I switch to German, any tip?
We need to create a class called Spanish, which can be just a copy of German. The reasoning is that we are going to want to have language dependent case-insensitive string match functions and those LanguageEnvironments implements such language dependent stuff.
I finally had some time to take a closer look at the m17n implementation. Do we really need classes for some of the language stuff? My impression is that most of the conversion etc could be table driven?
Michael
Michael,
- When I switch to Spanish, I can't type Spanish letters (like Ñ, ñ, á, é,
í, ó and ú). But I can when I switch to German, any tip?
We need to create a class called Spanish, which can be just a copy of German. The reasoning is that we are going to want to have language dependent case-insensitive string match functions and those LanguageEnvironments implements such language dependent stuff.
I finally had some time to take a closer look at the m17n implementation. Do we really need classes for some of the language stuff? My impression is that most of the conversion etc could be table driven?
Hmm. Let's keep those. Various language specific methods can be there.
We can use them as a Factory of translation dictionaries. #primaryLanguage: and #setNaturalLanguageTo: may do some double dispatch kind of thing based with the language argument, etc.
If you say that they should be used more than now, yes.
-- Yoshiki
Michael,
I finally had some time to take a closer look at the m17n implementation. Do we really need classes for some of the language stuff? My impression is that most of the conversion etc could be table driven?
Hmm. Let's keep those. Various language specific methods can be there.
We can use them as a Factory of translation dictionaries. #primaryLanguage: and #setNaturalLanguageTo: may do some double dispatch kind of thing based with the language argument, etc.
If you say that they should be used more than now, yes.
Now, I wonder if you meant the "EncodedCharSet" subclasses, rather than the "LanguageEnvironment" ones. The former is even less used, and I have to say that I don't fully know we'll need a class for each Unicode block. (Probably not.) But still some of them, for example UnicodeJapanese, has some methods and will have more, so it would make sense to keep them, I think.
-- Yoshiki
Diego,
Installing the new jar in an empty 3.6b image I got some warning on the Transcript. I put them in: http://squeaklet.com:8080/m17n/3
Some of them looks like packages I need in the Image before installing (HtmlEntity, TestInterpreterPlugin and VRMLClassNode).
Ah, no. You don't have to install anything. Many stuff in the package are from old day when the image is bigger. I should just remove the methods for removed classes.
Q: The .jar install a .dll file, is this file required? Can the m17n stuff work in other OS but windows?
No. It is not required. It is for convenience to locate the "composition" window of Windows when you input the Japanese text.
PS: We need our (our=translators) mail-list.
Hmm. I wonder if Squeak-dev might be enough. The problem is we don't know who will be interested in this project. Bigger exposure may be a good thing.
-- Yoshiki
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