Setools March 2007

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Gjallar work and darcs repo
by goran＠krampe.se 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

Hi folks! Just wanted to mention that I am now digging into Filters and MyView for real. These two things are at the top of my current todo list. After that comes User admin UIs and admin UIs for managing Processes (graph, settings, etc, etc). I just set up a darcs repository for maintaining the file tree of Gjallar at gjallar.se. Send me your public SSH key to gain write access. I will also write a small howto on www.gjallar.se etc. regards, Göran

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Gjallar 0.4 alpha
by goran＠krampe.se 21 Mar '07

21 Mar '07

Hi folks! As I have switched my Desktop to Debian, Linux is now the "primary" platform for Gjallar. :) For this release there are several fixes and improvements: - Integration of the Linux port into mainline and making it work fully (including Swish-e *with* green tests). - Some unit test fixes. Now running "Q2*Tests" should give you 29 green ones. Running without mocks will take "forever" (an hour at least) but should hopefully also be green. - Several other fixes and improvements, though nothing ground breaking in the UI. My View is not empty anymore though. :) I am now trying to get 0.4 out and while it is not yet time to add it to www.gjallar.se I have put a candidate for Linux on: http://mc.gjallar.se/download/alpha/gjallar-linux-0.4.tar.gz http://mc.gjallar.se/download/alpha/gjallar-linux-minimal-0.4.tar.gz Win32 and MacOS will follow. Win32 is more or less ready but I need to test it (and thus reboot). Help with MacOS would be appreciated, I haven't looked into it yet (and have no Mac). regards, Göran PS. I am also working on getting demo.gjallar.se and bugs.gjallar.se up and running, more later. PSS. And oh, I am setting up a darcs repo for the file trees so that we can maintain them together. The actual Gjallar code is of course maintained as usual using Monticello.

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Upcoming 0.4-alpha of Gjallar - where is Mac code?
by goran＠krampe.se 20 Mar '07

20 Mar '07

Hi folks! Ok, I finally found an elusive bug in the Linux port of the Swish-e interface - so now the tests are green on Linux (gotta check win32 too). This was the single bug I wanted to fix before pushing out an alpha. So... I am rewriting the Readme with instructions for different platforms and I will also set up a darcs repo for the file tree of Gjallar (we of course still use MC for the actual Squeak code). But again - has anyone done anything on the MacOS port that I could integrate? I will probably keep bundling the Win32 VM, Swish-e and Graphviz for Win32 but for Linux all these three components are described how to install separately. For MacOS I am unsure what is best. If I get no reaction then I will leave MacOS out for now - I don't have a Mac to try it on anyway. regards, Göran

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Gjallar on Mac?
by goran＠krampe.se 16 Mar '07

16 Mar '07

Hi folks! One question - I am aware that at least one or two of us have been prepping Gjallar on the Mac. Can you please post and/or point me to any work done for that? I don't have a Mac but I intend to whip up a 0.4-alpha release (alphe meaning - "hey, not tested much dude") and it would be neat to try to make a single zip for all three platforms (Linux, Win32, MacOS). regards, Göran

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Gjallar: Report on seminar and developer meeting
by goran＠krampe.se 16 Mar '07

16 Mar '07

Hi folks! Yesterday we held the seminar (and dev meeting) on Gjallar here at Toolkit - it went well (phew) and I have written it up a little bit on these two pages: http://www.gjallar.se/gjallar/67 http://www.gjallar.se/gjallar/68 I am also glad to report that I will be working at Micronic 2 days a week throughout june to get Gjallar "finished". This involves mainly completing functionality, adding administration UIs, load testing and documentation. And oh, right, we now have a more powerful public server to run demos and "Gjallar for Gjallar" on (Toolkit's new Hetzner server), more info will be posted when I have it up and running. regards, Göran

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Gjallar seminar and developer meeting on thursday
by goran＠krampe.se 12 Mar '07

12 Mar '07

Hi folks! Just a reminder about the Gjallar seminar on thursday - or rather, the developer meeting afterwards! The seminar is held in swedish in Stockholm at Toolkit Software and currently there will be about 20 people attending. Then after that, at 12.00 we begin the developer meeting with at least 4-5 people attending physically and hopefully a few more digitally (IRC of course, we can meet up on the #squeak channel - and Jonas Lindskog will set up some kind of Skype thing too). If you have any questions - just email me in private or this list. regards, Göran

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Gjallar on Linux revisited
by goran＠krampe.se 11 Mar '07

11 Mar '07

Hi folks! Just wanted to mention that I have revisited Gjallar on Linux (Debian Etch is now my desktop OS) and integrated the work by Balázs and Levente (they did most of the porting) into the regular code base. I did stumble upon some issues - simply a buglet in OSProcess (probably the latest release, since it was not there in december when I tested the Linux port the first time) causing issues with swish-e and graphviz. But eventually I solved that. Now it seems to be working properly, will test a bit more but it looks good. Anyway, just so you know that something is going on. Plan to make a small release for the seminar next week, or at least right after. regards, Göran

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I want to see Gjallar in localhost
by Sebastian Sastre 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

I've downloaded and unzipped in a windows system. How should Iog in? anything I put there throws a walkback cheers, Sebastian Sastre PD: <http://localhost:8081/seaside/Gjallar?_k=tSsjSpkm&_s=OpbNphEdntvmsYjd&1> Debug <http://localhost:8081/seaside/Gjallar?_k=tSsjSpkm&_s=OpbNphEdntvmsYjd&2> Full Stack Error: Instances of UndefinedObject are not indexable * UndefinedObject(Object)>>error: self nil temps aString 'Instances of UndefinedObject are not indexable' * UndefinedObject(Object)>>errorNotIndexable self nil temps * UndefinedObject(Object)>>size self nil temps * ByteString(SequenceableCollection)>>copyReplaceFrom:to:with: self 'admin' temps start 6 stop 5 replacementCollection nil newSequenceableCollection nil newSize nil endReplacement nil * ByteString(SequenceableCollection)>>, self 'admin' temps otherCollection nil

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Re: [Setools] Gjallar: Questions (2/16)
by goran＠krampe.se 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Resending this because somehow it never got through... --------------- Hi! Btw, the tooltip library we use is BoxOver: http://boxover.swazz.org "Thierry Thelliez" <thierry.thelliez.tech(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Goran and all, > > Getting deeper in the Gjallar code, I have the following questions. > Thanks for any help. Thierry > > 1- What is this method achieving? > Q2CasesView > reCalculateIfNeeded > "Recalculate if db has changed." > > txnMarker = self model txnMarker ifFalse: [ > self calculate. > txnMarker := self model txnMarker] This is a hack that we might look into revisiting eventually. We utilize the fact that the model can only have changed if there are more added txn objects. Thus if we locally keep track of the last known number of txns then we can use this to check if the model has changed since we looked last time. So the above code only does "self calculate" if the model in fact has changed. > 2- How could a message be displayed to the users that have been logged > out because of timeout? Mmmmm, well, I dunno. :) Scriptaculous? > 3 - Why is this called at user login? Why already returning a form? > Q2User > tableCaseForm > "Return the table form to use." > > self flag: #q2todo. > ^self processes ifEmpty: [self model defaultTableCaseForm] > ifNotEmpty: [self processes first tableCaseForms first] Mmmm, this is called when Q2FilteredCasesViews (its subclasses) are initialized - and yes, I presume you are correct that we could build the table lazily when that view is actually rendered the first time instead. The idea was that we ask the user for the Form to use for presenting cases in tables. Now... this is half baked code - but ideally I want each Process to have one or more "premade" Forms for table viewing (to select from) created by the Process admins. And of course, a default table case form in the model as can be seen above. Then I want every user to have their own Q2CasePanels (the domain object representing a table of cases) and each such panel would know which Form it uses for presentation (and thus what fields to show etc). So this is a hack - we shouldn't ask the user this - instead all places ("My View" and "View cases" - is the idea) should use Q2CasePanels and through those get the Form to use. Did this clear things up? I am sorry - this is code "half baked" indeed. It is on the top of my list. > 4- Why does LeftPanel keep track of the viewed cases? (BTW, you can > see an ongoing attempt on my side to display a list of users. Mostly > copy/paste from the Case example). Mmmm, ah! Good catch. As you noticed the instvar viewCases holds onto the instance of Q2ViewCases - but doesn't use it. This is legacy stuff - we can remove that instvar. The viewProcesses (which should be called processesView to be more accurately named) is still used though I notice. > 5- Could you explain the relationship between Q2ViewCases, > Q2FilterPanel and Q2FilterViewer? I found that the Filter classes are > dedicated to cases. Would it make sense to be able to 'filter' the > existing users (by category, by process,...)? If yes, would ti make > sense to reuse these classes? Ok, first of all - this area is "half baked" and connects with the Q2CasePanels etc I mentioned above. There is still quite a bit of work to do on filters and "My View" etc. Anyway, here goes: Q2ViewCases is the UI component for generic viewing and filtering/searching of cases. It is today the only component showing cases in tabular form but this will change when I get Q2UserCentralView going (the "My View" page). The idea is to show one or *several* Q2CasePanelViews - where each such case panel view is a filtered subset of cases presented in tabular form (just like Q2ViewCases is today). Of course, Q2ViewCases then becomes more or less a trivial special case with just one Q2CasePanelView. Q2FilterPanel (which probably should be called Q2FilterStackView instead to show it is a view) is a component to manipulate a stack of filters. It should definitely be used in the Q2ViewCases as it is today, but I am not sure if I want to use the "filter stack" model for the case panels - it would get to messy. So a Q2CasePanelView would not offer a stack of filters - only a single filter. Q2FilterViewer should probably be called Q2FilterView - it is the component which actually shows the filter, its fields and what restrictions are set on them. It needs lots more work because the idea is that you should be able to manipulate not only the predicates but also to add/remove new predicates. Ok, I need to present this more clearly obviously. :) :) But perhaps I made some sense of it. This is indeed parts not yet done. I have quite advanced plans for the filtering bit, but very little of it shows today in the Gjallar UI. But it isn't too far away. regards, Goran

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Re: [Setools] Gjallar: Alt text positioning issue under Firefox
by goran＠krampe.se 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Resending this because somehow it never got through... --------------- Hi! "Thierry Thelliez" <thierry.thelliez.tech(a)gmail.com> wrote: > This is a relativley minor issue, although users might be annoyed by > it. It might be an issue with Seaside and not with Gjallar. > > When I hover on top of some items (not all), like the Create Case tab, > the alt text is significantly offset from the mouse location. > > Just to let you know... The tooltips shown are not plain alt texts - Gjallar instead uses a javascript library for tooltips. So yes, there may be some issue there to look into. regards, Goran

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