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Voting period now closed.
by Giovanni Corriga 18 Apr '08

18 Apr '08

Hi all, we have decided to freeze the list of accepted students while we wait to reach tomorrow's deadline. Please abstain from further voting. Ciao, Giovanni

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[ken@kencausey.com: Re: [SoC] Squeak's total slot count: 4]
by Matthew Fulmer 17 Apr '08

17 Apr '08

----- Forwarded message from Ken Causey <ken(a)kencausey.com> ----- To: Giovanni Corriga <giovanni(a)corriga.net> From: Ken Causey <ken(a)kencausey.com> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:42:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [SoC] Squeak's total slot count: 4 Hi, I've now tried to send messages 3 times in the last 24 hours to the soc mailing list and each time it disappears. I'm investigating and have a theory but in the interest of expediency would one of you send an email requesting a meeting for 19:00UTC today? Thanks, Ken tried to send: Well, I sent both of these messages yesterday but they disappeared it seems. And I'm just now realizing it. So it's a little late notice now to call for a 16:00 meeting for today. How about 19:00 UTC? Let's try that and see what happens. Ken > Oh, for clarification: By 'tomorrow' I mean Thursday. > > original message: > > OK, very few were able to make it this time: Ken, Esteban, Aik-Siong, > Lukas, Toon, and Giovanni. Let's try it again tomorrow at 16:00 UTC. > > Ken > > On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 11:14 +0100, Giovanni Corriga wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > the almost-definitive slot allocation count from Google is out, and we > > didn't get any new student slots. > > > > It's time we finalize the list of our accepted students. Now, this is > > best done on IRC, so it would be better to have a meeting on IRC and > > decide which students we want to accept. > > > > We'll meet at 22:00 UTC on #squeak-gsoc. I still don't know if I'll be > > able to attend, though (I'm on the late shift tonight, so I can get home > > at a random time between 10pm and 1am). In any case I'll send some notes > > to Ken so that he'll be able to manage the process in my absence. > > > > Ciao, > > > > Giovanni ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/

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Squeak's total slot count: 4
by Giovanni Corriga 17 Apr '08

17 Apr '08

Hi all, the almost-definitive slot allocation count from Google is out, and we didn't get any new student slots. It's time we finalize the list of our accepted students. Now, this is best done on IRC, so it would be better to have a meeting on IRC and decide which students we want to accept. We'll meet at 22:00 UTC on #squeak-gsoc. I still don't know if I'll be able to attend, though (I'm on the late shift tonight, so I can get home at a random time between 10pm and 1am). In any case I'll send some notes to Ken so that he'll be able to manage the process in my absence. Ciao, Giovanni

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[Fwd: Fwd: The PhD's voices wrt undergrad/PhD precedence]
by Giovanni Corriga 14 Apr '08

14 Apr '08

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Re: [SoC] It got increased [was: Preliminary slot count: 4]
by giovanni 10 Apr '08

10 Apr '08

--- "Klaus D. Witzel" <klaus.witzel(a)cobss.com> wrote: > On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:36:15 +0200, Giovanni Corriga wrote: > > > Matthew Fulmer ha scritto: > >> Hi all. Leslie just sent out the first cut at slot assignments, > >> and we have 4 so far > >> Giovanni: Did you ask for a certain number of slots? I think the > >> number we can reasonably handle is 10, by looking at the > >> applications page > >> > > > > I was under the impression I did ask for 5 slots (same as last year), > > but apparently I was mistaken. I now amended the data to ask for 10 > > students, even though it think it's unlikely Google will give us that > > many. > > We now can see that Google draws a "demarcation" line between the top ten > and the rest, well done Giovanny. > > I just added an evaluation to one of the top ten and the overall ranking > was kept indeed. > Unfortunately, that's the number _I_ asked for, not the one Google gave us. The GSoC admins won't be doing another round of allocation before Friday. Giovanni

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Voting policy
by Matthew Fulmer 10 Apr '08

10 Apr '08

Now that the voting period has begun, I think we should create a few voting policies. I voted and commented on every application, so you can use what I did as an example. Here are the rough guidelines I tried to follow: - I voted on every project with an interested mentor - I gave between +4 and -1 for enthusiasm - I gave between +4 and 1 for project benefit to squeak (a project can never have non-positive utility) - I gave between 0 and -3 for misc deductions, such as: - The project is too big: -2 - The project is not described well enough, or too research-y: -1 - The student is overqualified: -1 or -2 Overall, my cumulative votes fell between +6 and -1. -- Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/

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Preliminary slot count: 4
by Matthew Fulmer 10 Apr '08

10 Apr '08

Hi all. Leslie just sent out the first cut at slot assignments, and we have 4 so far Giovanni: Did you ask for a certain number of slots? I think the number we can reasonably handle is 10, by looking at the applications page ----- Forwarded message from "LH (Leslie Hawthorn)" <lhospo(a)gmail.com> ----- To: Google Summer of Code Mentors List <google-summer-of-code-mentors-list(a)googlegroups.com> From: "LH (Leslie Hawthorn)" <lhospo(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 11:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Preliminary Slot Counts (long but important) Hello everyone, Here is the list of preliminary slot counts assigned to your organization. This is *preliminary* only. If you want to know how we determine these counts, please see the documentation: http://tinyurl.com/38ljx4 ****Very Important:**** Many organizations have still not let us know how many students they can reasonably mentor. If you are an organization administrator, please login to the web app and let us know ASAP how many students your project can actually support. You can do this by entering a numeric value in the "Desired Number of Projects" field on your organization's profile page. Why This List Can and Will Change: - It is possible that some projects have been assigned more students than they can reasonably handle. In that case, the student slots will be reallocated to a different project. - We have currently allocated funding for 1,000 student projects. If we discover that there are great proposals going unfunded, we *may* be able to fund up to 100 additional student projects. We would allocate these extra slots based on need (as determined by the requested number of student slots listed in your organization profile). Please make this number realistic. E.g. if you have 10 great proposals but only two mentors, asking for 10 slots is likely not reasonable. If you have 10 mentors but only 3 great proposals, only ask for 3 slots. Asking for More Slots: It's critical for us to know how many students each project can reasonably support in order for us to allocated more slots to projects in need. The best way to tell us that you need more slots is to fill out the number of slots you need in your organization profile. We will rerun our allocation script later this week to get a better sense for student allocations, then after that we will discuss with those projects in need about adjusting your slot counts. (IRC meeting likely, stay tuned.) Until we know how many students each project really wants, adjusting slot counts is not a useful exercise. Preliminary Slot Counts: Your organization's slot count is listed here by your organization's short form name. If you don't know your organization's short form name, you can find it by going to http://code.google.com/soc/2008/ and clicking on your organization's name on the page. Your org short form name will be included in the URL to your "about" page. For example, the Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence's short form name is siai, as can be seen in this URL for their about page: http://code.google.com/soc/2008/siai/about.html Here's the slot count list: ... squeak: 4 ... There will no doubt be many questions. Please ask away. Cheers, LH --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Summer of Code Mentors List" group. To post to this group, send email to google-summer-of-code-mentors-list(a)googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-summer-of-code-mentors-list-unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-mentors-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/

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freeCAD port to Croquet
by Aik-Siong Koh 09 Apr '08

09 Apr '08

At Matthew Fulmer's request, I am making my email to him below public. Aik-Siong Koh Matthew: Thank you for supporting Phua for this project. He is indeed excellent. I would like you to reconsider Chai whom I judge is very good. A score of -1 does not reflect his worth. Phua and Chai worked very well together on their final year project. Since you know Phua, can you contact Phua directly and get a real picture of Chai. Chai already has a job offer that is 30% above average for his class. But he will be doing Perl. I am hoping GSoc will give both Phua and Chai the visibility that companies like Qwaq will support them to do Smalltalk. All the best, Aik-Siong Koh

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Squeak Mentor Summit?
by Ken Causey 08 Apr '08

08 Apr '08

It seems to me that we really need to get communication between mentors bootstarted. Can we start meeting virtually? A handful of us already hang out fairly regularly on #squeak (and some other channels) on irc.freenode.net. If some people can't use IRC perhaps we can use Skype or some other technology. Due to timezone issues I suspect just one meeting time won't cut it, so perhaps we should have several at different times of the day. Is anyone else interested? Should I just pick out some times and dates and announce it? I really think having at least a meeting or two before the student application deadline would be a good idea as there are some issues with at least a couple of the applications. Ken

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RE: [SoC] Squeak Mentor Summit?
by Ken Causey 06 Apr '08

06 Apr '08

As it says at the end of the message the next meeting is scheduled for Monday April 7th at 22:00 UTC, this is the same as I originally stated. Beyond that I'm open to suggestions for the scheduling of future meetings. Ken > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [SoC] Squeak Mentor Summit? > From: Mathieu Suen <mathieusuen(a)yahoo.fr> > Date: Sat, April 05, 2008 5:37 pm > To: Squeak Summer of Code mailing list <soc(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > > > Soory but, were can I fine the schedule of the meeting? > > Thanks > > > On Apr 5, 2008, at 7:52 PM, Ken Causey wrote: > > A report on today (Saturday's) mentor meeting: > > > > Attendance was a little low but we did have two new participants: > > Adrian > > Kuhn and Giovanni Corriga. Thanks Adrian and Giovanni! Also in > > attendance were Klaus Witzel, Matthew Fulmer, Janko Mivsek, and Ken > > Causey. > > > > Giovanni explained the voting procedure, to summarize: > > > > Once the student application deadline ends a drop-down should appear > > on > > the application with -4, -2, -1, 0, +1, +2, +4 choices. The specific > > votes should not be visible to students. Voting is split up into two > > periods, the first will be from April 7th (8th maybe) until the 15th. > > The second will start on the 15th and end on the 17th or 18th and is > > meant to take into consideration students who have been accepted into > > other projects, the number of slots Google has assigned us, etc. > > > > Giovanni pointed out that any mentors interested in attend the Mentors > > Summit hosted by Google in the fall should start saving for expenses. > > Google will pay for a small number of mentors but not for all, and we > > have to pay initially to be reimbursed by Google later. > > > > Adrian Kuhn said he would be meeting with his student on Monday to > > improve the SpyVM application. > > > > Matthew Fulmer provided a link to his application from last year's > > GSOC > > which was accepted but which he was ultimately forced to cancel. > > > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5759 > > > > Giovanni pointed out that we should include at least one student who > > is > > a newcomer to Squeak, of course only if the application is also good. > > > > We didn't bother to go over all of the applications again. > > > > The next meeting is on Monday during the last two hours of the > > application period 22:00 to 0:00 on Monday April 7th. If you haven't > > made it to either of the other meetings this is the last chance before > > student applications have to be finished and voting starts. > > > > I would appreciate any comments on scheduling future meetings. I > > scheduled 3 of them rather close together right now to try to > > accomodate > > everyone before the deadline. I suspect we should have at least a > > meeting during the first voting period and almost certainly one during > > the second. Any thoughts you have on that would be appreciated. > > > > Ken > > _______________________________________________ > > SoC mailing list > > SoC(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/soc > > Mth > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail r�invente le mail ! D�couvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface r�volutionnaire. > http://fr.mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > SoC mailing list > SoC(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/soc

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