Spoon February 2004

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Squat progress 18 February 2004: MacOSX and ipv6
by Craig Latta 19 Feb '04

19 Feb '04

Just FYI, I built a MacOSX Squat VM from the Carbon tree at SourceForge, and it works (I'll update the release page to 1a6 soon). However, there seems to be a problem with the Flow plugin (at least on MacOSX 10.3.2). When establishing a connection between the working and control Squat snapshot, I get connection-refused, because apparently I'm mistakenly attempting with an ipv6 address from the client side, when the server is listening at an ipv4 address. (I can connect to the control snapshot with a simple command-line 'telnet' just fine.) Hopefully this will be easy to fix (I'll probably get to it sometime tonight). If anyone has advice about ipv4/ipv6 and possible programming pitfalls, please feel free to let me know. thanks, -C -- Craig Latta improvisational musical informaticist craig(a)netjam.org www.netjam.org [|] Proceed for Truth!

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Squat progress 19 February 2004: 1a6 fixes MacOS, first remote message sent between win32 and MacOS
by Craig Latta 19 Feb '04

19 Feb '04

Hi-- Squat 1a6 is out, at http://netjam.org/squat/releases/current/. This one includes a working VM for MacOS (Carbon). Thanks again to John McIntosh! (I'm also keen on getting Ian's version to work, will keep you posted.) Everything should work equally well on win32, Linux, and MacOS now. My web demo is still win32-only for now, though, since I have yet to remove all the unnecessary internal plugins from the Linux and MacOS VMs. So now for fun I'm browsing a headless snapshot running on win32, from a system browser running on MacOS. Yay! thanks, -C -- Craig Latta improvisational musical informaticist craig(a)netjam.org www.netjam.org [|] Proceed for Truth!

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Re: Squat progress 18 February 2004: MacOSX and ipv6
by Michael Pruemm 19 Feb '04

19 Feb '04

Craig Latta <craig(a)netjam.org> wrote: > If anyone has advice about ipv4/ipv6 and possible programming pitfalls, > please feel free to let me know. A while ago I was playing around with MiniRubyWiki and noticed that the server would bind to an IPV6 address when I started it with "localhost" as address. When I used 127.0.0.1 instead, it would bind to the IPV4 address as expected. I hope that helps... - Michael

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x86 Linux Squat available, MacOSX needs help
by Craig Latta 17 Feb '04

17 Feb '04

Hi-- Squat release 1a5 is out. There are now bits for x86 Linux and MacOSX, but MacOSX has the 2.2-related graphics problem I mentioned earlier today. I also corrected the virtual machine changes; the Squat snapshots now run in the interpreter simulator on all platforms (modulo networking simulation, which has never worked, to my knowledge). I've also included my latest generated interp.c, for convenience. The "for the impatient" demo is still win32-only, because my Linux and MacOSX VMs are still huge (I haven't removed the unnecessary internal plugins yet). For now, just download the bits you need separately, and run them manually. thanks! -C -- Craig Latta improvisational musical informaticist craig(a)netjam.org www.netjam.org [|] Proceed for Truth!

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re: running Squat 1a1
by Craig Latta 17 Feb '04

17 Feb '04

Hi all-- (Please direct followups and other bug or success reports to squat(a)netjam.org. Info on joining the list at http://netjam.org/squat/. Thanks!) Simon writes: > Here's what happened when I tried in firefox... Cool, I've never heard of that one. :) > ...a download dialog, which I ignored because I saw the status bar > in the browser moving and it looked like it was downloading. Yeah, that progress bar is totally fake... It just fills up over the course of a hardwired 90 seconds, to give people something to watch so they don't run off and turn on the TV. :) Most people get past it within 30 seconds if they agree to the security warnings promptly (and are on a broadband connection). > Then I figured out it's just waiting. Firefox doesn't allow me to run > the .exe for some reason. Yeah, most web browsers try to get at least some sort of approval from the user before running arbitrary weird programs. :) > Downloading it to the desktop and running it manually (while the > status bar is still moving) didn't work. That's correct behavior; that snapshot is hardwired to connect to either the Squat release site (to say that it has come up, so that the installer session can redirect the original web browser), or to a control snapshot. > In IE, I clicked open and (I think) the first time got a hello and > current time message from squat. Great! By the way, there have now been 41 successful invocations in total. > Tried it again and it said it was contacting a web server to > download modules. You probably need to kill off the previous invocation of the virtual machine first. I can fix that later. Jon writes: > > 1. Start the control image. In a command window execute the > > following: > > > > headed.exe control.image > > I get a rolling walkback in the bottom few lines of the screen > after this, starting at #basicNew and then progressing through a > lot of stuff that flies by too fast to read. After about half a > minute of this, the image goes away, with no error log generated. Which OS and OS version was this? By the way, note that there is now an x86 Linux version of the system to try, in the "bits" section of the release page. I'm chasing down some rough edges, more soon. thanks again! -C -- Craig Latta improvisational musical informaticist craig(a)netjam.org www.netjam.org [|] Proceed for Truth!

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re: squat on mac
by Craig Latta 16 Feb '04

16 Feb '04

Hi John-- ('Hope you don't mind if I cc this to the Squat list.) > Hey thanks for the mention on your page. Sure! Thanks again! > Now I noticed the flow 2g1 bundle has com.apple.yourcfbundle as the > bundle identifier. Yeah, I threw that together very quickly in xcode, from the bare sources. Any meta-bits you can offer would be great. > Which icon are you using, do you use the squeak one? or a different one > for Squat Haven't thought about that yet. :) > Also where does the MAC VM for this sit? I've got a preliminary one at http://netjam.org/squat/releases/current/MacOSXSquatVM.zip , but it opens an all-black window. Any debugging you might do on it would be cool. :) Note that the one I built is from Ian's 3.6g-3 tree (so hopefully you'll get something different :). > Do you just need to file in your VM Change set into a Squeak 3.7 > VMMaker image or what? That's right. > PS I'll note I'm in atlanta right now working on a gemstone to > VW/oracle conversion project for a few months. Lots of hours, but > little stress, so I've time to do other things in the evenings > again... Perfect! :) > PS Serial support. Did you look at the extended serial support I did > for Dan? Very very few lightweight primitive calls for that. 99% of > the code is in smalltalk. I'm already using the serial support I did for Flow while I was at Interval (I haven't released it yet, though). Thanks for the reference, I'll look at it. thanks again, -C -- Craig Latta improvisational musical informaticist craig(a)netjam.org www.netjam.org [|] Proceed for Truth!

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Squat progress 14 February 2004: release 1 alpha 1 available
by Craig Latta 14 Feb '04

14 Feb '04

Hi-- Squat 1 alpha 1 is available, at http://netjam.org/squat/releases/current/. Comments gratefully appreciated! thanks, -C -- Craig Latta improvisational musical informaticist craig(a)netjam.org www.netjam.org [|] Proceed for Truth!

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