Spoon April 2007

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[Fwd: Compiling my own VM]
by Tony Garnock-Jones 01 May '07

01 May '07

Hi all - this didn't seem to make it through to the list, so reposting :-) Regards, Tony

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Spoon in npsqueak
by Tony Garnock-Jones 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Has anyone experimented with getting a spoon image running in the squeak browser plugin? What would it take - presumably a compiled-in flow? Anything else? Regards, Tony -- [][][] Tony Garnock-Jones | Mob: +44 (0)7905 974 211 [][] LShift Ltd | Tel: +44 (0)20 7729 7060 [] [] http://www.lshift.net/ | Email: tonyg(a)lshift.net

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draft three of the Spoon book
by Craig Latta 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

New chapter: "why?" http://netjam.org/spoon/the%20Spoon%20book.pdf thanks, -C -- Craig Latta improvisational musical informaticist www.netjam.org Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]

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re: the Spoon book
by ron 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 01:56:03 -0700, Craig Latta <craig(a)netjam.org> wrote: > Hi-- > > I'm writing the Spoon book. Its structure is loosely based on the > "blue book" ("Smalltalk-80: The Language and Its Implementation" by > Adele Goldberg and David Robson). You can read the current draft at: > > http://netjam.org/spoon/the%20Spoon%20book.pdf > > Thanks for any feedback! > hello, I have read the "blue book" ("Smalltalk-80: The Language and Its Implementation" by Adele Goldberg and David Robson) and most related material, including the original Byte magazine article when they first came out. I have been following Squeak and Spoon development too. I have read the current draft of your Spoon book. You have articulated exactly the problems I see in Squeak development. I am looking forward to your book. The "blue book" is one of the best books to use as a model for how to write a technical documentation book. Some of the early "Apple Books" are too. I wish you good luck with Spoon and the Spoon Book. You are exactly on the right track. What the Squeak-Smalltalk-Object System needs is a "Linus Torvalds" to organize a community toward these goals. my wish list: easy to get. easy to Install. a "module" system. easy collaboration by developers and lay people. "object web services" based. website documentation, tutorials, forums, etc, based on any good linux distro. (gentoo?). "Spoon No Operating System". "Small Form Factor Portable Hardware" for ubiquitous computing. http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/CDE/_NITIXBX.JPG Thank You, >From an "old" lurker waiting for the Squeak-Smalltalk-Object System as it has been envisioned. There are a whole lot of us waiting for it. -ron-

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the Spoon book
by Craig Latta 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

Hi-- I'm writing the Spoon book. Its structure is loosely based on the "blue book" ("Smalltalk-80: The Language and Its Implementation" by Adele Goldberg and David Robson). You can read the current draft at: http://netjam.org/spoon/the%20Spoon%20book.pdf Thanks for any feedback! -C -- Craig Latta improvisational musical informaticist www.netjam.org Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]

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Spoon progress 2007-04-20: web-initiated module installation
by Craig Latta 21 Apr '07

21 Apr '07

Hi-- I just installed a module in the Spoon memory by invoking a URL in a web browser (this will come out in release 2.1). Now things get interesting. :) http://netjam.org/spoon/releases/current thanks again, -C -- Craig Latta improvisational musical informaticist www.netjam.org Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]

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re: Spoon release promoted from "next" to "current"
by Craig Latta 18 Apr '07

18 Apr '07

Hi Karl-- > I downloaded spoon.2a11.win32, and finally got to > http://localhost:8090/3 in Firefox. But clicking any link on that page > cause a error 'can't locate http://localhost:8080' and the spoon > process races away and keep filling up memory, when I killed it it was > using 500 MB memory. > I'm on WinXP 32 latest. Hurray, you're up to what should have been bug #1! :) I'm working on that now. What's happening (and what will probably be the explanation for 90% of Spoon bugs from now on) is that the system is trying to swap in a method and failing (and trying to report the failure using still other methods it doesn't have, which sends it into a loop). I suppose it could just give up and make some distinctive sound instead (it has no code for interacting with the filesystem at the moment). The 8080 stuff is just a typo (it should be 8090). But don't just try to visit those links at 8090, I've changed the command codes since I wrote that code a year ago. :) thanks for trying it out! -C -- Craig Latta improvisational musical informaticist www.netjam.org Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]

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Spoon 2 alpha 10, promoted from "next" to "current"
by Craig Latta 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

Hi-- I've released Spoon 2 alpha 10. This is now the current release (as opposed to "next"). http://netjam.org/spoon/releases/current This release adds a fileout of changes to the Squeak virtual machine simulator, for running the Spoon memory in simulation. If the Spoon system ever goes south, you can re-run under simulation to see what's going on. My test for this release was running a remote system browser in a Squeak 3.9 system, browsing a class in the Spoon memory which was running in simulation on another Squeak 3.9 system. thanks again, -C -- Craig Latta improvisational musical informaticist www.netjam.org Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]

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Spoon 2 alpha 8
by Craig Latta 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

Hi-- I've released Spoon 2 alpha 8 for MacOSX, Linux, and Windows. New this time is support for browsing the Spoon memory from a Squeak 3.9 system. Next is support for simulating the Spoon memory in a Squeak 3.9 system, so that you can see exactly what it's doing (especially if it crashes :). When that's done, I'll promote the release from "next" to "current". http://netjam.org/spoon/releases/next thanks again, -C -- Craig Latta improvisational musical informaticist www.netjam.org Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]

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Re: Spoon 2 alpha 7
by Ken G. Brown 14 Apr '07

14 Apr '07

Ok, got further. Silly me, did not drag files from the .dmg onto the hard drive. This time when running the 'open me first app', Squeak starts up then, Safari displays a Spoon page with url <http://localhost:8090/3>. Clicking the two Spoon links brings up <http://www.netjam.org/spoon/> in Safari. Clicking the 'installed modules' link gives Safari error: 'Safari can't open the page "http://localhost:8080/2" because it could not connect to the server "localhost".' Clicking the snapshot link gives Safari error: 'Safari can't open the page "http://localhost:8080/6" because it could not connect to the server "localhost".' Clicking the shutdown link gives Safari error: 'Safari can't open the page "http://localhost:8080/7" because it could not connect to the server "localhost".' MacPro, OS X 10.4.9 Ken

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