Squeakfoundation October 2001

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The Natives are Restless
by Dan Ingalls 12 Jan '02

12 Jan '02

Folks - Speaking as one who wants to see SqF take advantage of the community urge for a truly open Squeak, I have some concern for the pace of bringing SqF into existence. What I see is the Stable Squeak experiment reaching completion in not much more time than we have spent deliberating over the definition of SqF, and a number of people who *would support* an SqF looking elsewhere for it when it is right under their nose. Why? Because we haven't yet declared the existence of SqF. With no disrespect for the goals or even the process represented by the dialog on this list so far, what I'm wondering is: Why wait for all the chaordic process and exact definitions to declare the existence of SqF? Instead, why not Declare that SqF exists, Appoint a number of "acting" officers Declare a couple of active projects one of which is to converge on a more formal def of the organization I think I could even raise a few $$ to carry us through the interim period As token "Old Fart" I'm willing to be put in any role. I'll even appoint myself and everybody else if no one wants to do this. And I'll make up a project list (you can guess from prior messages). That doesn't sound very democratic ("open"), but I'm just wanting to "jump-start" the organization so that it can be accreting respect and definition while it is still being born, and so that we can channel the open Squeak urges into a coherent future, rather than fighting fires on the Squeak mail list and dissipating energy in twenty splinter efforts. What do others feel? - Dan PS: This may sound critical, but I don't feel that way at all. I'm happy with the current participants and process. I just feel the need for an interim solution.

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Dan Shafer Email
by Dan Shafer 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

For the past few weeks I've been experimenting with using Yahoo for my email. I've decided to discontinue using it. I'll still check it, but not as frequently. Please use (or revert to using) dan(a)gui.com as my primary email address. That will be checked every 30-60 minutes throughout each day. Just in case you've experimented similarly or wondered about it, here's a quick thumbnail of why I decided to switch: 1. Yahoo is sometimes painfully slow. 2. Yahoo limits file transfers to 1.5MB. 3. Yahoo limits disk space to 6.0 MB and charges for additional disk storage 4. Sending attachments is ludicrously slow because they insist on pre-scanning all files and seem to have limited capacity to do so. Thanks. ===== --------------- Dan Shafer, Author/Consultant http://www.danshafer.com - Personal Site http://www.gui.com - Ghostwriting Site dshafer(a)yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com

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Squeakfoundation October 2001