Squeakfoundation January 2003

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FreePAN: an opportunity to share repositories!
by Ned Konz 07 Jan '03

07 Jan '03

Last night I attended (and spoke at) the Seattle Perl User's Group meeting. Also in attendance were Brian Ingerson and Michael Schwern of Portland. Before the meeting, I had a chance to talk with Brian Ingerson (more below). He's working on an interesting and relevant project. <sidelight> Though not the subject of the main talk, I soon found myself answering questions about Squeak (and doing some promotion <g>). There were several people in the crowd who were interested. After the meeting, we went to a pub for a beer or two. There I demonstrated Squeak to several interested people (note to self: get a good demo together to show to programmers). I think that with the right kind of introduction and modular system we could convert a bunch of Perl programmers. </sidelight> Anyway, one of the interesting ideas that came from this was from Brian. He's working on an alternative to CPAN (the popular Perl repository/mirror/registry system). I'll let him describe what he's doing (I just sent him an invitation to join this list), but in summary he's working on a repository/registry system with metadata. Currently he's making it handle Perl and Ruby; there's some interest in Python from Michael Schwern. Especially since we're also evolving the SqueakMap system, it might be useful to talk with him about joining SqueakMap with FreePAN in some way. This would provide a single set of mirrored repositories covering all our languages, with immediate exposure to the "scripting language" community. And it sounds like some of Göran's excellent work could be used with FreePAN (or at least inform it). Anyway, I thought I'd open this up to discussion, as it's a timely and relevant issue for both our communities. Ideas? -- Ned Konz http://bike-nomad.com GPG key ID: BEEA7EFE

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fixes before 3.4gamma
by Doug Way 07 Jan '03

07 Jan '03

Here's my latest summary of (mostly) important, final fixes for 3.2beta, before going to gamma. Scott is perhaps compiling these already, but I figured I would try to summarize them also since I will be transitioning into update-stream-maintainer soon. Most of these are appropriate beta fixes, in the sense that they fix recently introduced bugs, not long-standing bugs. Hopefully, this will be it. A rough schedule: After these go to the internal stream, they should probably go public soon (within a day). Then, if no further immediate problems crop up within the next 3-4 days, we could declare 3.4 as gamma. (and Scott would release a candidate image) Then, I believe we were going to wait at least a week or so as gamma, and if there are still no problems, it can be declared final. Does this sound about right? I guess we are slightly behind our goal of releasing 3.4 at the beginning of the year, but we're not doing too badly just yet. :-) 1. [FIX] Another Acorn FileDir bug fix (21 December 2002) * Tim Rowledge (21 December 2002) - fix for AcornFileDirectory only which was apparently meant to appear in update #5141. 2. [FIX] MoreWeakMsgSendFixes-nk (21 December 2002) * ned(a)bike-nomad.com (21 December 2002) - a fix to #5155 which was recommended by Ned and Rob Withers. (or, could use Rob's further tweaked MoreWeakMsgSendFixes-nk-rww.2.cs posted to SqF list on 12/30, if that's okay with Ned) 3. [FIX] ProjectArchiveFixes-nk (20 December 2002) * Ned Konz (20 December 2002) - fixes a serious recently-introduced bug with project loading & saving 4. [FIX] minor VM fixes to 3.4 (MorePluginTermination-JMM.1.cs.gz & vmparameterTo25-JMM.1.cs.gz, posted to SqF list on 12/20) - VM fixes agreed to by John McIntosh and Tim (which will apparently help Alan's demos). Will only affect VM builders, so it probably won't hurt to go in 3.4. 5. "Trouble with 5150UUID-fix" - include Tim's fix to #makeUnixSeed (UUIDGEnBugFix.1.cs), posted to squeak-dev on 12/20. - include my fix to remove the TimeStamp dependency by replacing "TimeStamp current asSeconds" with "Time totalSeconds" in UUIDGenerator>>makeSeed. - John mentioned an "Improper store..." error which he had seen, but we may have to let that go for now if there's no fix, and Tim sez his UUIDGEnBugFix.1.cs probably fixes it. (Although will catching a FileStreamException work for this? hmm.) I guess we should just leave this alone for now. (An alternative is to dump #makeUnixSeed entirely.) In addition to these, Ned just mentioned a couple others which perhaps stretch the "critical" bugfix criteria a bit, but they seem localized enough that they would be safe to add: 6. VMMakerNicerFor3.4-nk (16 December 2002) - VMMaker-only fix, won't hurt anyone else. (Oops, wait a minute, this changeset seems to open VMMaker as a side-effect of executing "VMMaker initialize" in the postscript? We don't want that! Help, Ned. :) ) 7. TestRunnerInWorldMenu-nk (16 December 2002) - I also agree this should be in the open... menu. It does the safe menu-registering thing. And one more, which maybe should wait: 8. FileListCleanup-nk (13 December 2002) - I wonder if this should wait until 3.5alpha. It's basically just a refactoring which removes a bunch of methods, and it's conceivable that external code could reference these? Also, I posted last month on squeak-dev about various SUnit failures: ------------------------- - TestUUIDPrimitives>>testCreationRandom - Only occurs under Windows. This failure should be expected under Windows in some cases, according to Andreas. (see his Dec 22 post on squeak-dev) So, we should probably ignore this problem for now, and perhaps alter the test in 3.5alpha. (Although I sent some generated UUID's from my machine to John to see if he wanted to look at the problem.) - FileDirectoryTests>>testDeleteDirectory - FileDirectoryTests>>testDirectoryExists - FileDirectoryTests>>testExists These need to be fixed by the VM maintainers. Already fixed under Windows, John is looked at this for the Mac OS X carbon VM, and I guess Ian should look at this one too for the Unix/Linux VMs. (See Ned's 12/21 post on squeak-dev) So basically, I guess we don't need to do anything via updates for any of these SUnit failures. - Doug

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Re: [Squeakfoundation]fixes before 3.4gamma
by Daniel Vainsencher 05 Jan '03

05 Jan '03

Sorry I have had very little time to help lately, but you're doing fine AFAICT, so... :-) Daniel Doug Way <dway(a)riskmetrics.com> wrote: > > Here's my latest summary of (mostly) important, final fixes for 3.2beta, > before going to gamma. Scott is perhaps compiling these already, but I > figured I would try to summarize them also since I will be transitioning > into update-stream-maintainer soon. > > Most of these are appropriate beta fixes, in the sense that they fix > recently introduced bugs, not long-standing bugs. Hopefully, this will > be it. > > A rough schedule: After these go to the internal stream, they should > probably go public soon (within a day). Then, if no further immediate > problems crop up within the next 3-4 days, we could declare 3.4 as > gamma. (and Scott would release a candidate image) Then, I believe we > were going to wait at least a week or so as gamma, and if there are > still no problems, it can be declared final. > > Does this sound about right? I guess we are slightly behind our goal of > releasing 3.4 at the beginning of the year, but we're not doing too > badly just yet. :-) > > > 1. [FIX] Another Acorn FileDir bug fix (21 December 2002) * Tim Rowledge > (21 December 2002) > - fix for AcornFileDirectory only which was apparently meant to appear > in update #5141. > > 2. [FIX] MoreWeakMsgSendFixes-nk (21 December 2002) * ned(a)bike-nomad.com > (21 December 2002) > - a fix to #5155 which was recommended by Ned and Rob Withers. (or, > could use Rob's further tweaked MoreWeakMsgSendFixes-nk-rww.2.cs posted > to SqF list on 12/30, if that's okay with Ned) > > 3. [FIX] ProjectArchiveFixes-nk (20 December 2002) * Ned Konz (20 > December 2002) > - fixes a serious recently-introduced bug with project loading & saving > > 4. [FIX] minor VM fixes to 3.4 (MorePluginTermination-JMM.1.cs.gz & > vmparameterTo25-JMM.1.cs.gz, posted to SqF list on 12/20) > - VM fixes agreed to by John McIntosh and Tim (which will apparently > help Alan's demos). Will only affect VM builders, so it probably won't > hurt to go in 3.4. > > 5. "Trouble with 5150UUID-fix" > - include Tim's fix to #makeUnixSeed (UUIDGEnBugFix.1.cs), posted to > squeak-dev on 12/20. > - include my fix to remove the TimeStamp dependency by replacing > "TimeStamp current asSeconds" with "Time totalSeconds" in > UUIDGenerator>>makeSeed. > - John mentioned an "Improper store..." error which he had seen, but we > may have to let that go for now if there's no fix, and Tim sez his > UUIDGEnBugFix.1.cs probably fixes it. (Although will catching a > FileStreamException work for this? hmm.) I guess we should just leave > this alone for now. (An alternative is to dump #makeUnixSeed entirely.) > > In addition to these, Ned just mentioned a couple others which perhaps > stretch the "critical" bugfix criteria a bit, but they seem localized > enough that they would be safe to add: > > 6. VMMakerNicerFor3.4-nk (16 December 2002) > - VMMaker-only fix, won't hurt anyone else. (Oops, wait a minute, this > changeset seems to open VMMaker as a side-effect of executing "VMMaker > initialize" in the postscript? We don't want that! Help, Ned. :) ) > > 7. TestRunnerInWorldMenu-nk (16 December 2002) > - I also agree this should be in the open... menu. It does the safe > menu-registering thing. > > And one more, which maybe should wait: > > 8. FileListCleanup-nk (13 December 2002) > - I wonder if this should wait until 3.5alpha. It's basically just a > refactoring which removes a bunch of methods, and it's conceivable that > external code could reference these? > > > Also, I posted last month on squeak-dev about various SUnit failures: > ------------------------- > > - TestUUIDPrimitives>>testCreationRandom - Only occurs under Windows. > This failure should be expected under Windows in some cases, according > to Andreas. (see his Dec 22 post on squeak-dev) So, we should probably > ignore this problem for now, and perhaps alter the test in 3.5alpha. > (Although I sent some generated UUID's from my machine to John to see if > he wanted to look at the problem.) > > - FileDirectoryTests>>testDeleteDirectory > - FileDirectoryTests>>testDirectoryExists > - FileDirectoryTests>>testExists > > These need to be fixed by the VM maintainers. Already fixed under > Windows, John is looked at this for the Mac OS X carbon VM, and I guess > Ian should look at this one too for the Unix/Linux VMs. (See Ned's > 12/21 post on squeak-dev) > > So basically, I guess we don't need to do anything via updates for any > of these SUnit failures. > > - Doug > > _______________________________________________ > Squeakfoundation mailing list > Squeakfoundation(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/squeakfoundation

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RE: Trouble with 5150UUID-fix
by Scott Wallace 03 Jan '03

03 Jan '03

I presume that the appropriate fix at this point is to publish the TimeStamp class, which is currently in the SqueakMap code, to the 3.4b update stream. Any objections? Cheers, -- Scott At 8:07 PM +0100 12/20/02, Andreas Raab wrote: >BTW, I just noticed that the standard UUIDGenerator>>makeSeed now uses >"TimeStamp" - a class which is not present in 3.4. > >Cheers, > - Andreas

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My fixes that I think should be in 3.4b
by Ned Konz 02 Jan '03

02 Jan '03

Scott asked what the status was of the various fixes I've posted (post-5169). I hadn't been too clear on these. I think the following [FIX]es should be applied to 3.4b, since they fix existing bugs: MoreWeakMsgSendFixes-nk ProjectArchiveFixes-nk VMMakerNicerFor3.4-nk FileListCleanup-nk And maybe also the following [ENH], which makes the TestRunner more accessible: TestRunnerInWorldMenu-nk What do you think of these? Happy new year, -- Ned Konz http://bike-nomad.com GPG key ID: BEEA7EFE

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