Squeakfoundation July 2003

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Ideas for 3.7
by Doug Way 12 Jul '03

12 Jul '03

Rather than waiting until the last minute, I thought I'd throw out some ideas now for things which could be part of the 3.7 plan, to get some discussion going. Input from everyone is welcome, although suggestions should be things that are already implemented and just need to be incorporated, or something you plan to work on yourself. Here's my starter list of large 3.7 items: (some of these are unfinished items carried over from the 3.6 plan) - Incorporate SM 1.1 which supports package versions, start working on dependency scheme - Diego's look enhancements - Accufonts - ANSI Smalltalk changes (discuss first whether we want to do this) - Possibly add a few free TrueType fonts directly to the Basic image, e.g. BitStream Vera fonts? Wouldn't have to be set as the default text/list fonts necessarily... maybe titlebar font. (also discuss) - Maybe remove some more packages once SM 1.1 has settled down - (add more here) The above items will need shepherds to make sure they get done. (I could handle Accufonts, TT fonts, maybe one or two others.) Smaller enhancements should be handled via the usual harvesting process (e.g. horizontal scrollbar enhancement, which I'll probably approve). Other items: - Decide whether the following release should be 3.8 or 4.0 (w/image format change), someone like Tim will need to coordinate this issue - Support for ISO-8859 or multibyte character sets could be considered if we determine that it's ready to go in... we don't want MacRoman forever. Or, could be in a future release. - I will remove all deprecated methods (senders of #deprecated*) in the image at the beginning of 3.7alpha, this will be a regular occurrence at the beginning of each release. Package owners should do the same. (probably there aren't many deprecated methods in external packages right now) To do for 3.6 final release: - Decide whether to have just a Full image (as Daniel suggested) or both a Full and Basic image as part of the release. I agree that the Full image should be the one promoted as the "default" choice for newbies to try, but I don't see why we couldn't also offer the Basic image as a download... it could be labeled "for developers only" or somesuch. - Make sure all of the removed "Squeak Official" Full-distribution packages are still loadable and working in 3.6. For example, it sounded like PWS was broken (see post from Joshua Gargus on squeak-dev). One option for that particular package would be to vote on whether we should dump it from the distribution altogether, since it's not really used by anyone. That's it for now, gotta run. - Doug p.s. I'm going out of town now until Saturday, so I won't be able to respond until then. Unfortunately I didn't have time to incorporate the latest batch of approved fixes before leaving :-( but I'll get to that on Saturday.

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Fwd: Packages in both the image and SqueakMap (was Re: [FIX] NoDoitInPackageInfo-nk ( Included in latest version ofPackageInfo))
by Doug Way 10 Jul '03

10 Jul '03

FYI, if no one objects, I will update the SM packages that are in the image, by adding the latest versions to the update stream. Only the SMPackageLoader and PackageInfo have newer versions on SM, so these are the only two that will get updated. The version on SM is still the "master", as described below. (Seems relatively safe, since there haven't been big changes to either of these and they've been publicly available for awhile.) This will be the last update of this sort for 3.6. I'll do this sometime tomorrow, and I'll incorporate the latest approved items while I'm at it. - Doug Begin forwarded message: > From: Doug Way <dway(a)riskmetrics.com> > Date: Tue Jul 8, 2003 1:21:18 AM America/Detroit > To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list > <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > Subject: Packages in both the image and SqueakMap (was Re: [FIX] > NoDoitInPackageInfo-nk ( Included in latest version of PackageInfo)) > Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list > <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > > > On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 03:37 PM, Avi Bryant wrote: > >> On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 ned(a)bike-nomad.com wrote: >> >>> I notice that this has been included in the latest version of >>> PackageInfo from SqueakMap. ... >>> Shouldn't we post the latest version (or a change set with the >>> deltas) >>> to the update stream, now that PackageInfo is in the base? >> >> I'm unclear on the policy here. I thought maybe SM, PackageInfo etc >> were >> meant to be one time inclusions in the update stream, which would be >> updated through SM from then on. Doug? > > I've been wondering about this myself. The general idea was that the > version on SM would be the primary/official one which would be updated > regularly. > > But practically speaking, we don't want the one in the image to become > out of date enough that it's completely broken. It's a bit of a mess, > actually, having them in both places. :-) But it's really a > short-term solution until SM 1.1 is ready and a dependency scheme > comes together... so we shouldn't have to deal with this for *too* > long. > > Anyway, probably what we should do is still treat the code on SM as > the official versions, but update the ones in the image every once in > a while from SM, if things start becoming incompatible. (And perhaps > they should be updated before releases, too, which means we might want > to update them right now... assuming the changes are not too large.) > > - Doug Way >

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[BUG] Smalltalk>>imageReaderClass has been deprecated and there is no replacement for this method
by Andreas Raab 08 Jul '03

08 Jul '03

I think the subject says it all - if it's deprecated then there *ought* to be a better place for it. So where is it? What are users of that method *supposed* to do? I mean we can't just raise random error messages without providing an alternative, can we? [Found this while trying to load Connectors into 3.6beta] Cheers, - Andreas

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by TristanWW＠SmileAtYou.com 06 Jul '03

06 Jul '03

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Re: [Squeakfoundation]moving to 3.6beta
by Daniel Vainsencher 04 Jul '03

04 Jul '03

I reviewed and replied to it. The gist of it is - 1. It should use the deprecation methods introduced by KCP, which causes less breakage. 2. Other small nits picked. 3. IMO, assuming 1 is fixed, there's no reason this can't be included during beta, so fixing said nits isn't urgent. Daniel Ned Konz <ned(a)bike-nomad.com> wrote: > On Thursday 03 July 2003 03:07 pm, Daniel Vainsencher wrote: > > Send them in, I'll review them asap (which I don't mind doing > > today, for the kind of change you describe), and Doug can decide if > > it can go in. > > OK, it's on its way. > > It needs to be looked at, as it came from a 3.5 image. I will be > looking at it right now against a 3.6a image. > > -- > Ned Konz > http://bike-nomad.com > GPG key ID: BEEA7EFE > > _______________________________________________ > Squeakfoundation mailing list > Squeakfoundation(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/squeakfoundation

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Re: [Squeakfoundation]moving to 3.6beta
by Daniel Vainsencher 04 Jul '03

04 Jul '03

Send them in, I'll review them asap (which I don't mind doing today, for the kind of change you describe), and Doug can decide if it can go in. Daniel Ned Konz <ned(a)bike-nomad.com> wrote: > On Wednesday 02 July 2003 10:35 pm, Doug Way wrote: > > > Anyway, I think we have 8 1/2 of the 11 items from the 3.6 plan > > done, so we're not doing too badly. (Plus DecPools would be an > > extra item not in the original plan.) It doesn't look like we'll > > have time to add Diego's look enhancements or Accufonts, but we can > > put them at the beginning of the 3.7 plan to make sure they don't > > get left out next time. > > I would really like to get my TextStyle cleanups into 3.6 if I could, > as it will affect other things. > > These move font- and style- related things out of Utilities. > > I can get them posted today as a SAR. > > -- > Ned Konz > http://bike-nomad.com > GPG key ID: BEEA7EFE > > _______________________________________________ > Squeakfoundation mailing list > Squeakfoundation(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/squeakfoundation

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moving to 3.6beta
by Doug Way 04 Jul '03

04 Jul '03

The latest plan was to finally move to 3.6beta today, July 2nd. I think we are more or less ready featurewise, except that we could perhaps add the DecPools stuff which was approved. (The only reason I didn't already incorporate it is that it's a bit of a hassle to convert the .sar file to changesets, but it should be doable. Unless someone else wants to do this?) So, I think I should be able to add the DecPools stuff tomorrow (the 3rd), and the small handful of approved items. Then after that, we can move to beta tomorrow, and from then on we'll just add bug fixes. Does this sound reasonable? Also, Daniel and I talked (on this list) about not opening 3.7alpha yet, not until 3.6 moves to gamma, which I think is a good idea to make sure 3.6beta actually gets tested. (3.6gamma will be July 16) Anyway, I think we have 8 1/2 of the 11 items from the 3.6 plan done, so we're not doing too badly. (Plus DecPools would be an extra item not in the original plan.) It doesn't look like we'll have time to add Diego's look enhancements or Accufonts, but we can put them at the beginning of the 3.7 plan to make sure they don't get left out next time. - Doug

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by Mustapha Hassan 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

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by MRS. KHAIRET MUSTAPHA 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

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by Dr.freddrick martins 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

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