We have two offers for hosting (I had offered earlier but defer to the offer with larger pipes<g>)
I have already offered and have a volunteer lawyer who uses Squeak to help "bend" the Apache model into the right shape.
Dave
It would be a good idea to register squeakfoundation.org and even squeakfoundation.com asap.
Actually, when talking about the name Paul's interesting comments:
A good reason to work from the point of purpose rather than projects is to encourage the broadest support for the foundation. Also, needs change over time, so a purpose linked too closely to a specific project may turn obsolete quickly. A good purpose will be one that twenty years from now will still make sense and be worth supporting. To an extent, a really good purpose is more like a process than a goal. [For anyone with real experience with chaordic processes, like Cees, feel free to chime in with corrections and/or more process suggestions.]
Maybe we want to call this foundation something like "The Blue Plane Foundation". Hmm. On second thought, if we are to promote Stable Squeak and the likes than it should be called "The Pink Plane Foundation", but on third thought, (!) hey! our pink is someone else's blue, so it can stay blue!
Seriously if this foundation is to be active 50+ years and promote bleeding edge blue stuff, this is a name that we should consider. We can also publicize meaning of the blue plane analogy and this would intrigue people.
Honestly neither Squeak nor Smalltalk are names that are catchy for people who hear them the first time. I for one don't care about names. If I did, I wouldn't be a staunch follower of fuzzy logic. But fuzzy logic suffered a lot because of its name. Many people who have heard of it before have the notion of something old and a "has been". Others who hear the first time their first response is "chitchat?", jokingly. It takes time to make them take this seriously. I was talking to one of the VPs of Citicorp, and he said it would be very difficult for his organization to develop anything on "Squeak" because people wouldn't take it seriously just for the name. If they did, they wouldn't mention the name "Squeak". Maybe this is our chance to introduce Squeak as something new.
After people are introduced to the technology, then we can tell them about the background and its strong foundation, but we can introduce Squeak as a "breakthrough technology derived from a quarter of a century of wisdom".
BTW blueplane.org is surprisingly available, so is theblueplane.org. If you are interested in this idea we should get one or both of them at once.
I'll send a separate posting on our intended contributions to the list.
Cheers
Tansel
It would be a good idea to register squeakfoundation.org and even
squeakfoundation.com asap.
A few domains which are already registered (SQF.ORG|NET|COM and SQC.ORG|NET|COM are registered as well):
SQUEAKIES.COM SQUEAKIEKIDDIE.COM SQUEAKIECLEAN.NET SQUEAKIECLEAN.COM SQUEAKIE.NET SQUEAKIE.COM SQUEAKFREEFLOORS.COM SQUEAKFREE.COM SQUEAKFREAK.COM SQUEAKERTIMES.COM SQUEAKERSSTORY.COM SQUEAKERSFREEBIES.COM SQUEAKERS.ORG SQUEAKERS.NET SQUEAKERS.COM SQUEAKERS-INSOLES.COM SQUEAKERONLINE.COM SQUEAKERNET.NET SQUEAKERNET.COM SQUEAKERMOUSE.COM SQUEAKERDOG.COM SQUEAKERBOOTSMA.COM SQUEAKER.ORG SQUEAKER.NET SQUEAKER.COM SQUEAKENGLAND.COM SQUEAKENDER.COM SQUEAKEE.COM SQUEAKED.COM SQUEAKE.COM SQUEAKDOM.ORG SQUEAKDOM.COM SQUEAKDOG.COM SQUEAKDESIGN.NET SQUEAKDESIGN.COM SQUEAKDESGIN.COM SQUEAKCLICK.COM SQUEAKCATFOOD.COM SQUEAKBY.COM SQUEAKBUSTER.COM SQUEAKBOX.COM SQUEAKBEAK.COM SQUEAKART.COM SQUEAKANDRATTLE.COM SQUEAKALPHA.ORG SQUEAK.ORG SQUEAK.NET SQUEAK.COM SQUEAK-N-KLEAN.COM SQUEAK-E.COM
Perhaps Squeak should become a registered trademark and SqF can earn money by licensing its use ...
Andreas
"Andreas" == Andreas Kuckartz a.kuckartz@dokom.net writes:
It would be a good idea to register squeakfoundation.org and even
Andreas> squeakfoundation.com asap.
Andreas> A few domains which are already registered (SQF.ORG|NET|COM and Andreas> SQC.ORG|NET|COM are registered as well):
Andreas> SQUEAKIES.COM Andreas> SQUEAKIEKIDDIE.COM Andreas> SQUEAKIECLEAN.NET Andreas> SQUEAKIECLEAN.COM Andreas> SQUEAKIE.NET Andreas> SQUEAKIE.COM Andreas> SQUEAKFREEFLOORS.COM Andreas> SQUEAKFREE.COM Andreas> SQUEAKFREAK.COM Andreas> SQUEAKERTIMES.COM Andreas> SQUEAKERSSTORY.COM Andreas> SQUEAKERSFREEBIES.COM Andreas> SQUEAKERS.ORG Andreas> SQUEAKERS.NET Andreas> SQUEAKERS.COM Andreas> SQUEAKERS-INSOLES.COM Andreas> SQUEAKERONLINE.COM Andreas> SQUEAKERNET.NET Andreas> SQUEAKERNET.COM Andreas> SQUEAKERMOUSE.COM Andreas> SQUEAKERDOG.COM Andreas> SQUEAKERBOOTSMA.COM Andreas> SQUEAKER.ORG Andreas> SQUEAKER.NET Andreas> SQUEAKER.COM Andreas> SQUEAKENGLAND.COM Andreas> SQUEAKENDER.COM Andreas> SQUEAKEE.COM Andreas> SQUEAKED.COM Andreas> SQUEAKE.COM Andreas> SQUEAKDOM.ORG Andreas> SQUEAKDOM.COM Andreas> SQUEAKDOG.COM Andreas> SQUEAKDESIGN.NET Andreas> SQUEAKDESIGN.COM Andreas> SQUEAKDESGIN.COM Andreas> SQUEAKCLICK.COM Andreas> SQUEAKCATFOOD.COM Andreas> SQUEAKBY.COM Andreas> SQUEAKBUSTER.COM Andreas> SQUEAKBOX.COM Andreas> SQUEAKBEAK.COM Andreas> SQUEAKART.COM Andreas> SQUEAKANDRATTLE.COM Andreas> SQUEAKALPHA.ORG Andreas> SQUEAK.ORG Andreas> SQUEAK.NET Andreas> SQUEAK.COM Andreas> SQUEAK-N-KLEAN.COM Andreas> SQUEAK-E.COM
But these domains were recently deleted and now available:
a1squeakyklean.com allsqueak.com smalltalksqueak.com squeak-developer.com squeak-e.com squeak-e.net squeak-net.com squeak-pro.com squeak-soft.com squeak-software.com squeak-solutions.com squeak-world.com squeakdeveloper.com squeakeliminator.com squeakinabox.com squeakingpica.com squeakman.com squeaknet.net squeakpro.com squeakreport.com squeaksoftware.com squeaksolutions.com squeakworld.org squeakytc.com zipsqueak.net
Hmm. So someone registered smalltalksqueak and then abandoned it? Interesting.
(This info available at http://whois.net/searchD.cgi2?str=squeak&last_str=&page=0 - a good page to bookmark.)
editor@squeakonline.com said:
It would be a good idea to register squeakfoundation.org and even squeakfoundation.com asap.
Done. In 48 hours, you'll be able to s/cdegroot.com/squeakfoundation.org/
Honestly neither Squeak nor Smalltalk are names that are catchy for people who hear them the first time.
Neither was Apache the first time I heard it. Or Linux. These days, you either pay someone millions or dollars to make up "Accenture" for you or you grab a name that has .com and .org still free and hope for the best ;-)
I think it should be Squeak Foundation. The name is already a brand in the heads of Squeakers (whose support we'll need first and foremost!) and I think it can be turned into a brand for others as well. There are funnier names around...
squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org