There have been several problems recently with the Squeak mailing list (squeak@cs.uiuc.edu) not delivering email to everyone. Also, the list currently doesn't have an administrator who participates in the list (or much of an administrator at all). For more details, see Ralph Johnson's comments in this message:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/squeak/message/28661
Given this, I'd propose to make this a Squeak Foundation project to host the list. A couple of people (including Cees de Groot) offered to host the list in response to the earlier mail. (If there were no objections I'd personally be happy to see Cees host the new list, since he's already demonstrated that he can host the Squeak Foundation list and archives, and is an active participant in both lists.)
One additional minor thing for whoever is in charge of this... it would be nice to keep the existing Yahoo archives (and Georg Gollman's archives) and carry them over to the new list address, if possible. (I'm not sure if this is possible with the Yahoo archives or not.)
Thoughts/objections?
- Doug Way dway@riskmetrics.com
"Doug" == Doug Way dway@riskmetrics.com writes:
Doug> There have been several problems recently with the Squeak Doug> mailing list (squeak@cs.uiuc.edu) not delivering email to Doug> everyone. Also, the list currently doesn't have an Doug> administrator who participates in the list (or much of an Doug> administrator at all). For more details, see Ralph Johnson's Doug> comments in this message:
Doug> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/squeak/message/28661
Why not simply have egroups, er, Yahoo!groups host the list? I moved a list that had been remotely archived over to Yahoo, and I was very happy with the process. It's quite simple.
"Randal L. Schwartz" wrote:
Why not simply have egroups, er, Yahoo!groups host the list? I moved a list that had been remotely archived over to Yahoo, and I was very happy with the process. It's quite simple.
I used to be subscribed to a list on Egroups, and they used to have advertising tacked onto the bottom of each email message that was sent, which was annoying. I'm not sure if Yahoo groups continues this practice or not. Otherwise, I agree that it works pretty well and is reliable, and the advertising isn't the end of the world if you have no other options.
On the other hand, if Cees or someone else is willing to set up a reliable list, we could just go with that.
- Doug Way dway@riskmetrics.com
dway@riskmetrics.com said:
On the other hand, if Cees or someone else is willing to set up a reliable list, we could just go with that.
eGroups/Yahoo groups still has ads - ugly HTML banners, even.
I'm willing to host the list (in fact, /any/ Squeak-related list or activity), it will be part of the mailing list setup we use to communicate with our dealer network so I'm quite positive that we want the thing to stay running ;-).
Talking about things staying running: the SqF Swiki will be off-line for a couple of hours today... The machine it resides on is going to be moved to another datacenter (we're 'consolidating'), and we'll probably put more reliable hardware under it at the same time.
Cees de Groot wrote:
dway@riskmetrics.com said:
On the other hand, if Cees or someone else is willing to set up a reliable list, we could just go with that.
eGroups/Yahoo groups still has ads - ugly HTML banners, even.
I'm willing to host the list (in fact, /any/ Squeak-related list or activity), it will be part of the mailing list setup we use to communicate with our dealer network so I'm quite positive that we want the thing to stay running ;-).
Speaking of mailing lists, my original post in this thread was sent from my laptop which had its date reset somehow (sorry!), and this ended up confusing the SqF list archives in an amusing way. (see http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeakfoundation/ ) I'm not sure if it's possible to configure the email archiver to base the archiving on the date/time received, rather than the (often bogus) date listed on the email?
- Doug Way dway@riskmetrics.com
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