Dear Webmaster Please delete following old entry from my message board because I never was a so called squatter, and do not own the domain name smalltalk.net anymore. The entry appears in search engines under my name an does hurt my reputation.
Many thanks in advance & best Regards
Florian Bruhin
ENTRY: [Squeakfoundation]smalltalk.net John M McIntosh squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org Tue, 15 May 2001 16:02:06 -0700
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FYI in case someone wants to pursue this. smalltalk.net is currently allocated to a squatter. It expires Oct 4th 2001.
At 3:22 PM +0000 2/9/01, Florian Bruhin wrote:
Delivered-To: stlkjohn@vrx.net X-Originating-IP: [165.222.186.194] From: "Florian Bruhin" chinadns@hotmail.com To: johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Subject: Re: smalltalk.net Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 15:22:57 -0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2001 15:22:57.0345 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E324310:01C092AC] Status:
It is !
The negotiating basis for this domain name is USD 10'000.--
Best Regards
Florian Bruhin
also maybe flo_bruhin@hotmail.com, see whois for information, which as an address and phone number in Mettmenstetten
On Tuesday 22 April 2003 03:54 am, Florian Bruhin wrote:
Dear Webmaster Please delete following old entry from my message board because I never was a so called squatter, and do not own the domain name smalltalk.net anymore. The entry appears in search engines under my name an does hurt my reputation.
Many thanks in advance & best Regards
Florian Bruhin
Also the owner of "porno.ro", "freesex.ro", etc.?
Would "domain name speculator" be a better term?
ENTRY: [Squeakfoundation]smalltalk.net John M McIntosh squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org Tue, 15 May 2001 16:02:06 -0700
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FYI in case someone wants to pursue this. smalltalk.net is currently allocated to a squatter. It expires Oct 4th 2001.
At 3:22 PM +0000 2/9/01, Florian Bruhin wrote:
Delivered-To: stlkjohn@vrx.net X-Originating-IP: [165.222.186.194]
From: "Florian Bruhin" chinadns@hotmail.com
To: johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com Subject: Re: smalltalk.net Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 15:22:57 -0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2001 15:22:57.0345 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E324310:01C092AC] Status:
It is !
The negotiating basis for this domain name is USD 10'000.--
Best Regards
Florian Bruhin
also maybe flo_bruhin@hotmail.com, see whois for information, which as an address and phone number in Mettmenstetten
Baring opinions about right/wrong etc or my choice of words at the time, it's a good question to ask.
As the original poster, it's an interesting question to ask if and how one deletes a historically posted message from the squeak mailing lists.
Like for example how the folks at www.archive.org do it
http://www.archive.org/about/exclude.php
or better yet the ones at http://www.google.com/remove.html
If Florian want's it gone I have no problems with that, so any procedures in place to do that?
On Tuesday, April 22, 2003, at 03:54 AM, Florian Bruhin wrote:
Dear Webmaster
Please delete following old entry from my message board
On Wed, 2003-04-23 at 07:19, John M McIntosh wrote:
As the original poster, it's an interesting question to ask if and how one deletes a historically posted message from the squeak mailing lists.
Unless you present me with a subpoena valid for The Netherlands, the answer is probably 'not'. I'm hosting the mailing lists on the (implicit) condition that they don't cost me work, and removing messages from the archives cost me work.
I've put a fee of USD/EUR 45.00 on such 'small jobs' to put a filter on similar requests from my customers (on the assumption that if you *really* want it, you are willing to pay for it). That's probably something I'd use as a starting point...
Anyway, it won't help a lot - the list is archived at lots of sites, not just at the 'canonical' site. If you really want to remove something from the Internet, it is going to cost you a lot of work...
The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on: nor all your Piety nor Wit Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line, Nor all your Tears wash out a Word of it
-- Omar Khayyam
Removing a cross-archived message from the internet would be akin to retrieving a glass of water spilled in the ocean, or recalling a breath. And that's just one of the good things about the internet. (-:
Gary
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Hello,
Well if we ARE poking fun: Here is an emendation for Our Computer Age
The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on: nor all your Piety nor Wit Shall lure it back to cancel a single Bit, Nor all your Tears wash out a Word of it
-- Omar Khayyam
Couldn't resist.
Regards,
Maarten. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Fisher To: Discussing the Squeak Foundation Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [Squeakfoundation]Re: Delete Entry
The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on: nor all your Piety nor Wit Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line, Nor all your Tears wash out a Word of it
-- Omar Khayyam
Removing a cross-archived message from the internet would be akin to retrieving a glass of water spilled in the ocean, or recalling a breath. And that's just one of the good things about the internet. (-:
Gary
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On Tuesday 22 April 2003 10:19 pm, John M McIntosh wrote:
Baring opinions about right/wrong etc or my choice of words at the time, it's a good question to ask.
As the original poster, it's an interesting question to ask if and how one deletes a historically posted message from the squeak mailing lists.
My big concern about this is that as soon as the archiver starts editing the contents of the archive, they're responsible for the archive contents because they're acting as an editor.
If they don't edit, then the words are merely the responsibility of the original posters.
In my mind, this is akin to the current status of the Internet as a common carrier: the owners of the backbone machines don't have any responsibility for the packets that they move.
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