Folks -
I've just joined the SqF mail list. My apologies for not having joined in sooner. Anyway, it looks like I have some catching up to do. At first glance a lot of good thinking has already taken place.
Then I'll try to say a few words about where SqC is likely going in the next year, and what the best way would be for us to work together with the rest of the community through a Squeak Foundation. We already have some ideas about this, but first I want to read what has already been said here.
Thanks - Dan
PS: I have a favor to ask: To look at the old messages, I have to use the archive. If it would be easy for any of you to forward all the messages to me, then I could read them in my normal mail system. If any of you would be willing to do this, please send a message *to me*, and I'll confirm back (to avoid everyone forwarding N copies of all the messages). Thanks
Dan Ingalls wrote:
PS: I have a favor to ask: To look at the old messages, I have to use the archive. If it would be easy for any of you to forward all the messages to me, then I could read them in my normal mail system. If any of you would be willing to do this, please send a message *to me*, and I'll confirm back (to avoid everyone forwarding N copies of all the messages). Thanks
I assume by "use the archive" you are referring to reading the archive through the web pages.
For reference, when I joined this list there were already about a dozen messages. I ended up downloading the full raw archive as single file from this page: http://lists.cdegroot.com/pipermail/squeakfoundation/ and found I could import it directly into Netscape under Windows (after renaming the extension "mbox" to "mbx"). [I actually didn't expect it would work, but it did.] Perhaps you can do something similar with whatever mail system you use if it supports importing? The advantage to this approach is the mail headers are left as if you had received the mail directly, making it easy to reply directly to a specific email, preserving thread continuity.
By the way, great mail manager system, Cees.
-Paul Fernhout Kurtz-Fernhout Software ========================================================= Developers of custom software and educational simulations Creators of the Garden with Insight(TM) garden simulator http://www.kurtz-fernhout.com
Paul Fernhout pdfernhout@kurtz-fernhout.com wrote...
I assume by "use the archive" you are referring to reading the archive through the web pages.
For reference, when I joined this list there were already about a dozen messages. I ended up downloading the full raw archive as single file from this page: http://lists.cdegroot.com/pipermail/squeakfoundation/
Yes, I did that too.
and found I could import it directly into Netscape under Windows (after renaming the extension "mbox" to "mbx"). [I actually didn't expect it would work, but it did.] Perhaps you can do something similar with whatever mail system you use if it supports importing?
Sad to say, my slightly dated Eudora doesn't seem to. I did go through the analogous exercise of making its Mac file types identical to another message list
The advantage to this approach is the mail headers are left as if you had received the mail directly, making it easy to reply directly to a specific email, preserving thread continuity.
Yes, I understand. That's what I want. Is it possible that your Netscape can forward a group of messages, hint, hint?
No wait. You would have done that if you could.
I'll use, um, er... Squeak!
Fire up Celeste, import the file, oh, boo. Walkback after 17 messages. But 17 messages -- hey it almost works. Debug, debug, try again. Bingo it works! Of course I should be using Celeste anyway, but I'm addicted to a couple of features of Eudora (mainly running it while Squeak is busy doing something else, but that's another story, right?).
So now, let's export them, fire up Eudora, and... it works!! I'll put out a fix soon.
Thanks for not just forwarding them.
- Dan
For posterity and other Mac users this is what I did on my wife's Mac to see how it would work. I haven't regularly used a Mac in over a year since I built my Linux machine. I still get to be tech support. :)
Close Eudora before proceding. I downloaded the SqueakFoundation archive, the big mbox into the Disk/System Folder/Mail Folder. Since I do not have resedit on this machine I simply selected and duplicated the In box. Drag the In box copy onto BBEdit or TexEdit (my wife's favorite) select all text and delete. Drag the SqueakFoundation mailbox onto BBEdit select all text and copy. Paste into In box copy and save. Rename the In box copy to whatever you pick. Open Eudora. All should be well. You'll have to set the unread property.
This worked on my wife's Eudora 4.x Pro.
Jimmie Houchin
Dan Ingalls wrote:
Paul Fernhout pdfernhout@kurtz-fernhout.com wrote...
I assume by "use the archive" you are referring to reading the archive through the web pages.
For reference, when I joined this list there were already about a dozen messages. I ended up downloading the full raw archive as single file from this page: http://lists.cdegroot.com/pipermail/squeakfoundation/
Yes, I did that too.
and found I could import it directly into Netscape under Windows (after renaming the extension "mbox" to "mbx"). [I actually didn't expect it would work, but it did.] Perhaps you can do something similar with whatever mail system you use if it supports importing?
Sad to say, my slightly dated Eudora doesn't seem to. I did go through the analogous exercise of making its Mac file types identical to another message list
The advantage to this approach is the mail headers are left as if you had received the mail directly, making it easy to reply directly to a specific email, preserving thread continuity.
Yes, I understand. That's what I want. Is it possible that your Netscape can forward a group of messages, hint, hint?
No wait. You would have done that if you could.
I'll use, um, er... Squeak!
Fire up Celeste, import the file, oh, boo. Walkback after 17 messages. But 17 messages -- hey it almost works. Debug, debug, try again. Bingo it works! Of course I should be using Celeste anyway, but I'm addicted to a couple of features of Eudora (mainly running it while Squeak is busy doing something else, but that's another story, right?).
So now, let's export them, fire up Eudora, and... it works!! I'll put out a fix soon.
Thanks for not just forwarding them.
- Dan
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