UI February 2008

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RE: [UI] Mouse wheel
by Bill Schwab 04 Feb '08

04 Feb '08

Gary, I saw 285 and loaded that and fiddled around slightly. I made a point of using the wheel to scroll panes in inactive windows interspersed with typing in the active window, and that seems to work except when the scrolling list is part of the active window. With the other traffic, I suspect that a change to regain keyboard selection in the lists is being enabled on mouse over (if only in/under the active windows) vs. after transfer of focus. I see where you are going, but it essentially brings back the "lists grab the focus" problem. IMHO, if a user wants to simply point at a list and have it grab the focus for keyboard navigation, they should use a policy that changes focus on mouse-over. As a click/tab to change focus type, I want the focus to be independent of the mouse movement, and will click/tab to a list that I want to navigate by keyboard. Hopefully it will suffice to limit the navigation to the list with the focus. Reasonable? As always, thanks for working on this!!! Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com 01/28/08 11:42 AM >>> Load Pinesoft-Widgets-gvc.284 from SqueakSource and enjoy! Was tricky to figure out but done nicely, I think. If the VMs get arround to generating mouse wheel events natively (rrather than simulating with a keystroke) it is a small matter to support that when/if that happens. Will await feedback before updating the Universe. Regards, Gary. > -----Original Message----- > From: ui-bounces(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Bill Schwab > Sent: 22 January 2008 3:21 AM > To: ui(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > Subject: Re: [UI] Mouse wheel > > > Gary, > > It is not terribly high on my priority list, but the more I work with > Squeak, the more I notice that the way other apps handle the wheel makes > a LOT of sense. Given a choice, I would opt for solid keyboard focus > every time. > > Thanks! > > Bill > > > > > > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. > University of Florida > Department of Anesthesiology > PO Box 100254 > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 > > Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu > Tel: (352) 846-1285 > FAX: (352) 392-7029 > > >>> gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com 01/21/08 6:27 PM >>> > I've looked at that, would be nice! Unfortunately, in Squeak, the mouse > wheel is simulated as keyboard events. It would require some hacking to > pick these up and send to the mouse focus instead. If there is > sufficient interest I'll take a stab at it. > > Thanks. Gary. > > ----- Original message ----- > From: Bill Schwab <BSchwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> > To: <ui(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > Sent: Mon, 21 Jan 2008, 20:45:13 GMT > Subject: [UI] Mouse wheel > Gary, > > I hope this is not a repeat, or worse yet reflective of my not having > installed a new enough release, but _almost_ as much as I think keyboard > focus should be managed very carefully and independent of the mouse > cursor location, I think the mouse wheel input should follow the mouse > cursor, even so far as scrolling panes that are not active, and not even > part of the active shell. First, I just noticed Ubuntu, its graphical > terminal, and OpenOffice do this to good effect (as just one example); > second, if I am typing, mouse movement is probably made to avoid visual > distraction from the cursor, if I am turning the mouse wheel, it is > almost certainly a deliberate action associated with the cursor > location. Fair? > > Bill > > > > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. > University of Florida > Department of Anesthesiology > PO Box 100254 > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 > > Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu > Tel: (352) 846-1285 > FAX: (352) 392-7029 > > _______________________________________________ > UI mailing list > UI(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui > _______________________________________________ > UI mailing list > UI(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui > > _______________________________________________ > UI mailing list > UI(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui _______________________________________________ UI mailing list UI(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui

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Using keyboard on lists
by Damien Cassou 01 Feb '08

01 Feb '08

Hi, without UIEnhancements loaded, I can easily select an item on any list if I type part of its label (open the world menu and type 'save'). With UIEnhancements, it does not work anymore if I use the #chooseFrom:* methods from UIManager. Can this be readded please? Bye -- Damien Cassou

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