UI October 2007

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UI Enhancements
by Gary Chambers 01 Nov '07

01 Nov '07

Some expeimental stuff on SqueakSource, version 254. Was about time for a "Watery" theme, given Squeak's roots... Work in progress, is useable (given the framework). Will do a bit at a time, given spare time. Feedback always appreciated. Gary

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Pinesoft-Widgets-gvc.242 and SystemProgressMorph>>#nextSlotFor:
by Klaus D. Witzel 22 Oct '07

22 Oct '07

Gary, I've seen you adapted this method, could I have a 2nd opinion regarding its use. When #nextSlotFor: finds a slot with nil it puts a SystemProgressBarMorph into the slot and returns the corresponding index. When it finds an occupied slot which has nil owner it also returns the corresponding index. When all that fails it defaults to return self :( I have an image in which the sender, #label:min:max:, fails when it attempts to do bar := bars at: slot because slot := self was returned by #nextSlotFor:. Do you see a workaround/fix other than returning 0 at the end of #nextSlotFor:, what could be the reason for #nextSlotFor: to fall through. Thanks in advance. /Klaus

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RE: [UI] Damien's images
by Bill Schwab 22 Oct '07

22 Oct '07

Gary, No problem. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com 10/19/07 6:31 PM >>> I am currently unable to update the development universe (upon which Damien bases the dev image)... until this is resolved you'll have to use Monticello to get the latest version via SqueakSource. > -----Original Message----- > From: ui-bounces(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Bill Schwab > Sent: 12 October 2007 1:43 PM > To: ui(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > Subject: [UI] Damien's images > > > Damien, > > What is the status of Gary's work in your developers' image? Unless I > am doing something stupid, it is not included in the latest one. Please > do what you think is best, but it surprised me because I thought I read > here that you had made it the default. > > While commenting, I would like to vote against ecompletion being > activated. The impact on the cursor movement is severe. My concern is > that someone trying Squeak for the first time might decide everything > they heard was true (ok, much of it IS true<g>, but...) and never get > past trying to edit their first expression. You might handle it by > adding scripts for a few different levels of preferences from newbie to > hardcore squeaker that we could evolve over time. Just my 2 asCents. > > Bill > > > > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. > University of Florida > Department of Anesthesiology > PO Box 100254 > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 > > Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu > Tel: (352) 846-1285 > FAX: (352) 392-7029 > > _______________________________________________ > UI mailing list > UI(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui _______________________________________________ UI mailing list UI(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui

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Damien's images
by Bill Schwab 20 Oct '07

20 Oct '07

Damien, What is the status of Gary's work in your developers' image? Unless I am doing something stupid, it is not included in the latest one. Please do what you think is best, but it surprised me because I thought I read here that you had made it the default. While commenting, I would like to vote against ecompletion being activated. The impact on the cursor movement is severe. My concern is that someone trying Squeak for the first time might decide everything they heard was true (ok, much of it IS true<g>, but...) and never get past trying to edit their first expression. You might handle it by adding scripts for a few different levels of preferences from newbie to hardcore squeaker that we could evolve over time. Just my 2 asCents. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029

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Re: [UI] Damien's images
by Bill Schwab 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

Damien, I can simply turn it off, but my concern is that those unaware of it, as I was, would tend to think the image is broken rather than feature-rich. It's your call, of course. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> damien.cassou(a)gmail.com 10/12/07 9:16 AM >>> I won't remove eCompletion from the base image because it's one of the most powerful tool to help you write code. What is your problem with eCompletion ? -- Damien Cassou _______________________________________________ UI mailing list UI(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui

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Maximizing and Restoring Windows with doubleClick: event
by Travis Kay 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

Hello All, Has anyone on the UI team given thought to implementing SystemWindow maximizing and restoring upon doubleClick: event ? I've added this to my image and find it a rather handy. This type of behavior is typically expected from non-squeakers. In my Squeak 3.9 7067 image with Pinesoft-Widgets-gvc.242.mcz loaded, I added; SystemWindow>>mouseDown: evt "first statement before Pinesoft enhancements" evt hand waitForClicksOrDrag: self event: evt. and SystemWindow>>doubleClick: event self expandBoxHit I would have attached a change set but my file out seems to be broken in this case. (header, no code) Travis

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Re: {Spam?} Re: [UI] Maximizing and Restoring Windows with doubleClick: event
by Bill Schwab 15 Oct '07

15 Oct '07

Agreed all around, and especially with "people can more easily adjust to new looks than to new interface behaviors. Squeak should recognize this observation and provide users with their expected behaviors where possible." Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> hmm(a)heeg.de 10/14/07 3:22 PM >>> Gary Chambers schrieb: > After incorporating the "double-click-title-bar" thing I was wondering if > these kind of events/actions should be themed too... > > Easy enough to do (think, a particular theme might "shade" the window > instead, or minimize, or whatever. > > In generally it would mean that the feel could be themed along with the > look. Does anyone think that the "feel" part should be broken out for a > mix-and-match approach, or would that be too confusing? It should definitely be broken out. That would allow us to have feels which are consistent with user's expectations on their native platforms, while still being able to switch between different looks. For example, standard keyboard binding conventions vary between the Windows world (where ctrl- is often used) and the Mac world (where the default command key is the apple or clover key which maps to the Alt key on PC keyboards). With every major release of their operating systems Microsoft and Apple do essentially the same: Looks may be changed radically or subtly, but feel is much more stable and evolves in smaller steps. Apparently people can more easily adjust to new looks than to new interface behaviors. Squeak should recognize this observation and provide users with their expected behaviors where possible. Other possible feel-dependent behaviors could be: - text and list selection (Windows vs Rest-of-World) - mouse button bindings (including the paste via middle mouse button found in X) - pop-up menu behavior (I kinda liked the old ST-80 pop up menus with their selection memory - I'm probably the only one who would admit that...) - keyboard focus behavior is probably orthogonal to other feel elements, but belongs into this category, too. It might be helpful to view a "theme" as a composition of look and feel elements. That way, we could have predefined "tinymellow", "fruit" and "kobold" themes (to avoid trademark infringements :-) ) and user-defined combinations of looks and feels (for example, a secret GNU admirer in a microsoft workplace might choose a "kobold" look with the "tinymellow" feel.) Cheers, Hans-Martin _______________________________________________ UI mailing list UI(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui

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TextMorphEditor(Object)>>perform: #noUndoer withArguments: #(0) inSuperclass:
by Klaus D. Witzel 08 Oct '07

08 Oct '07

I don't know where the below comes from, it happened in Damien's sq3.10-7145dev07.10.1.image (the one with preloaded UI Enhancements). Let me know if it has nothing to do with UI Enhancements, then I'll file a bug report. /Klaus Error: incorrect number of arguments 8 October 2007 9:12:38 am VM: Win32 - a SmalltalkImage Image: Squeak3.10beta [latest update: #7145] SecurityManager state: Restricted: false FileAccess: true SocketAccess: true Working Dir ...\SqueakDev Trusted Dir ...\SqueakDev\kWitzel Untrusted Dir ...\My Squeak\kWitzel TextMorphEditor(Object)>>error: Receiver: a TextMorphEditor Arguments and temporary variables: aString: 'incorrect number of arguments' Receiver's instance variables: model: a FileList2 view: nil sensor: a KeyboardBuffer lastActivityTime: nil redButtonMenu: nil redButtonMessages: nil scrollBar: 0@0 corner: 0@0 marker: 0@0 corner: 0@0 savedArea: nil menuBar: 0@0 corner: 0@0 savedMenuBarArea: nil paragraph: a MultiNewParagraph startBlock: a CharacterBlock with index 32142 and character Character cr and re...etc... stopBlock: a CharacterBlock with index 32142 and character Character cr and rec...etc... beginTypeInBlock: nil emphasisHere: an Array(a TextFontChange font: 2) initialText: a Text for '''From Squeak3.9 of 7 November 2006 [latest update: #7...etc... selectionShowing: false otherInterval: (32116 to: 32115) lastParentLocation: nil morph: a TextMorphForEditView(993) oldInterval: (32142 to: 32141) pivotBlock: a CharacterBlock with index 32116 and character Character tab and r...etc... editHistory: nil TextMorphEditor(Object)>>perform:withArguments:inSuperclass: Receiver: a TextMorphEditor Arguments and temporary variables: selector: #noUndoer argArray: #(0) lookupClass: TextMorphEditor Receiver's instance variables: model: a FileList2 view: nil sensor: a KeyboardBuffer lastActivityTime: nil redButtonMenu: nil redButtonMessages: nil scrollBar: 0@0 corner: 0@0 marker: 0@0 corner: 0@0 savedArea: nil menuBar: 0@0 corner: 0@0 savedMenuBarArea: nil paragraph: a MultiNewParagraph startBlock: a CharacterBlock with index 32142 and character Character cr and re...etc... stopBlock: a CharacterBlock with index 32142 and character Character cr and rec...etc... beginTypeInBlock: nil emphasisHere: an Array(a TextFontChange font: 2) initialText: a Text for '''From Squeak3.9 of 7 November 2006 [latest update: #7...etc... selectionShowing: false otherInterval: (32116 to: 32115) lastParentLocation: nil morph: a TextMorphForEditView(993) oldInterval: (32142 to: 32141) pivotBlock: a CharacterBlock with index 32116 and character Character tab and r...etc... editHistory: nil TextMorphEditor(Object)>>perform:withArguments: Receiver: a TextMorphEditor Arguments and temporary variables: selector: #noUndoer argArray: #(0) Receiver's instance variables: model: a FileList2 view: nil sensor: a KeyboardBuffer lastActivityTime: nil redButtonMenu: nil redButtonMessages: nil scrollBar: 0@0 corner: 0@0 marker: 0@0 corner: 0@0 savedArea: nil menuBar: 0@0 corner: 0@0 savedMenuBarArea: nil paragraph: a MultiNewParagraph startBlock: a CharacterBlock with index 32142 and character Character cr and re...etc... stopBlock: a CharacterBlock with index 32142 and character Character cr and rec...etc... beginTypeInBlock: nil emphasisHere: an Array(a TextFontChange font: 2) initialText: a Text for '''From Squeak3.9 of 7 November 2006 [latest update: #7...etc... selectionShowing: false otherInterval: (32116 to: 32115) lastParentLocation: nil morph: a TextMorphForEditView(993) oldInterval: (32142 to: 32141) pivotBlock: a CharacterBlock with index 32116 and character Character tab and r...etc... editHistory: nil Message>>sentTo: Receiver: noUndoer 0 Arguments and temporary variables: receiver: a TextMorphEditor Receiver's instance variables: selector: #noUndoer args: #(0) lookupClass: nil --- The full stack --- TextMorphEditor(Object)>>error: TextMorphEditor(Object)>>perform:withArguments:inSuperclass: TextMorphEditor(Object)>>perform:withArguments: Message>>sentTo: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TextMorphEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>undo TextMorphEditor>>undo TextMorphEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>undo: TextMorphEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>dispatchOnCharacter:with: TextMorphEditor>>dispatchOnCharacter:with: ...etc...

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[ANN] Tuio - Tangible User Interaction on Squeak
by Simon Holland 05 Oct '07

05 Oct '07

Hi All I have just uploaded the first version of Tuio for Squeak. Tuio allows Squeak to use the reacTIVision computer vision system to track physical objects in real time. The package includes a Tuio client and demonstration application program. To make practical use of Tuio for Squeak you will need a webcam or other camera, and should download the free Reactivision application for your operating system. To learn more, see http://mcs.open.ac.uk/sh2/squeakmusic.html). Tuio for Squeak makes it easy to build tangible user interfaces using fiducial markers on physical objects. Tuio for Squeak allows the rapid development of table-based tangible user interfaces (TUI) and multi-touch interactive surfaces. Prerequisite Package - OSC 5.1 or later. Please let me know if you find any problems. Simon Holland -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-ANN--Tuio---Tangible-User-Interaction-on-Squeak-tf45… Sent from the Squeak - UI mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Gary's UI Enhancements
by Brian Brown 05 Oct '07

05 Oct '07

Hello all! I have been using the UI enhancements, and found that it isn't actually closing system windows - especially debugger windows. If I run code like: (Debugger allInstances collect: [:d | d dependents detect: [:i | i isKindOf: SystemWindow]]) do: [:w | w openInWorld] I was getting 7 or 8 debugger windows popping up on the screen, they just wouldn't close. I had to start over with a fresh image and load my code. Now that I'm not using the UI enhancements, I don't have this issue, but I sure miss them! - Brian

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