Gang,
Has there been a resolution of the (sorry if I am suffering from memory corruption here) non-collectable garbage under Gary's enhancements? Another thing that disturbed me was the Croquet group(???) threatening to drop Squeak servers in favor of Java or similar. There were some semaphore/delay/shared queue kinds of fixes. Did they make it into Squeak?
Please don't do my homework for me. I am hoping someone here happens to remember the details.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
I've not noticed a particular increase in image size, myself. The semaphore fixes posted in the dev-list have worked wonders for the stability of our client's software... AFAIK they'll be put into 3.10 but must be installed manualy for 3.9.
There was a post somewhre in the ui list about unrecoverable garbage. After my last respone there has been no feeback, however.
Regards, Gary,
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Bill Schwab Sent: 01 November 2007 2:31 AM To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [UI] [Slightly OT] Stability of Squeak
Gang,
Has there been a resolution of the (sorry if I am suffering from memory corruption here) non-collectable garbage under Gary's enhancements? Another thing that disturbed me was the Croquet group(???) threatening to drop Squeak servers in favor of Java or similar. There were some semaphore/delay/shared queue kinds of fixes. Did they make it into Squeak?
Please don't do my homework for me. I am hoping someone here happens to remember the details.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
UI mailing list UI@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui
Gary,
I've noticed a few debuggers that just wont die, but I'm still trying to track down the problem. Some of the semaphore / delay fixes have worked ok for me, others have seemed to hosed my image - admittedly I didn't review code or comments before just filing in the change sets.
Travis
Gary Chambers wrote:
I've not noticed a particular increase in image size, myself. The semaphore fixes posted in the dev-list have worked wonders for the stability of our client's software... AFAIK they'll be put into 3.10 but must be installed manualy for 3.9.
There was a post somewhre in the ui list about unrecoverable garbage. After my last respone there has been no feeback, however.
Regards, Gary,
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Bill Schwab Sent: 01 November 2007 2:31 AM To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [UI] [Slightly OT] Stability of Squeak
Gang,
Has there been a resolution of the (sorry if I am suffering from memory corruption here) non-collectable garbage under Gary's enhancements? Another thing that disturbed me was the Croquet group(???) threatening to drop Squeak servers in favor of Java or similar. There were some semaphore/delay/shared queue kinds of fixes. Did they make it into Squeak?
Please don't do my homework for me. I am hoping someone here happens to remember the details.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
UI mailing list UI@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui
UI mailing list UI@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui
Maybe down to the taskbar, whick works "synchronously" with window opening. It is designed to delete itself when there is a problem in creating the button for the task, to avoid such problems. There is, however, a posiblility that the task button is created alright but with a potential cascade effect in the associated window. I could, perhaps, force the taskbar to close when a user-interrupt occurs... or, perhaps, have a recurse flag of some sort.
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Travis Kay Sent: 01 November 2007 4:21 AM To: Squeak's User Interface Subject: Re: [UI] [Slightly OT] Stability of Squeak
Gary,
I've noticed a few debuggers that just wont die, but I'm still trying to track down the problem. Some of the semaphore / delay fixes have worked ok for me, others have seemed to hosed my image - admittedly I didn't review code or comments before just filing in the change sets.
Travis
Gary Chambers wrote:
I've not noticed a particular increase in image size, myself.
The semaphore
fixes posted in the dev-list have worked wonders for the
stability of our
client's software... AFAIK they'll be put into 3.10 but must be
installed
manualy for 3.9.
There was a post somewhre in the ui list about unrecoverable
garbage. After
my last respone there has been no feeback, however.
Regards, Gary,
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Bill Schwab Sent: 01 November 2007 2:31 AM To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [UI] [Slightly OT] Stability of Squeak
Gang,
Has there been a resolution of the (sorry if I am suffering from memory corruption here) non-collectable garbage under Gary's enhancements? Another thing that disturbed me was the Croquet group(???) threatening to drop Squeak servers in favor of Java or similar. There were some semaphore/delay/shared queue kinds of fixes. Did they make it into Squeak?
Please don't do my homework for me. I am hoping someone here
happens to
remember the details.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
UI mailing list UI@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui
UI mailing list UI@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui
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Gary Chambers wrote:
Maybe down to the taskbar, whick works "synchronously" with window opening. It is designed to delete itself when there is a problem in creating the button for the task, to avoid such problems. There is, however, a posiblility that the task button is created alright but with a potential cascade effect in the associated window. I could, perhaps, force the taskbar to close when a user-interrupt occurs... or, perhaps, have a recurse flag of some sort.
Actually I found my issue, it was due to ECController (eCmopletion) references in ActionMaps of EventManager. Thanks for the tip though =)
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Travis Kay Sent: 01 November 2007 4:21 AM To: Squeak's User Interface Subject: Re: [UI] [Slightly OT] Stability of Squeak
Gary,
I've noticed a few debuggers that just wont die, but I'm still trying to track down the problem. Some of the semaphore / delay fixes have worked ok for me, others have seemed to hosed my image - admittedly I didn't review code or comments before just filing in the change sets.
Travis
Gary Chambers wrote:
I've not noticed a particular increase in image size, myself.
The semaphore
fixes posted in the dev-list have worked wonders for the
stability of our
client's software... AFAIK they'll be put into 3.10 but must be
installed
manualy for 3.9.
There was a post somewhre in the ui list about unrecoverable
garbage. After
my last respone there has been no feeback, however.
Regards, Gary,
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Bill Schwab Sent: 01 November 2007 2:31 AM To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [UI] [Slightly OT] Stability of Squeak
Gang,
Has there been a resolution of the (sorry if I am suffering from memory corruption here) non-collectable garbage under Gary's enhancements? Another thing that disturbed me was the Croquet group(???) threatening to drop Squeak servers in favor of Java or similar. There were some semaphore/delay/shared queue kinds of fixes. Did they make it into Squeak?
Please don't do my homework for me. I am hoping someone here
happens to
remember the details.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
UI mailing list UI@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui
UI mailing list UI@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui
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Am AM replying... grrr.. eCompletion... my bane. Not sure why, but it has it in for me... the only reason I don't use the dev image!.... it malign influence apparently extends.... (sorry to the developer, good effort but just doesn't play well, wold like nothing more than is working nicely).
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Travis Kay Sent: 01 November 2007 5:37 AM To: Squeak's User Interface Subject: Re: [UI] [Slightly OT] Stability of Squeak
Gary Chambers wrote:
Maybe down to the taskbar, whick works "synchronously" with
window opening.
It is designed to delete itself when there is a problem in creating the button for the task, to avoid such problems. There is, however, a posiblility that the task button is created alright but with a potential cascade effect in the associated window. I could, perhaps,
force the taskbar
to close when a user-interrupt occurs... or, perhaps, have a
recurse flag of
some sort.
Actually I found my issue, it was due to ECController (eCmopletion) references in ActionMaps of EventManager. Thanks for the tip though =)
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Travis Kay Sent: 01 November 2007 4:21 AM To: Squeak's User Interface Subject: Re: [UI] [Slightly OT] Stability of Squeak
Gary,
I've noticed a few debuggers that just wont die, but I'm still
trying to
track down the problem. Some of the semaphore / delay fixes have worked ok for me, others have seemed to hosed my image - admittedly I didn't review code or comments before just filing in the change sets.
Travis
Gary Chambers wrote:
I've not noticed a particular increase in image size, myself.
The semaphore
fixes posted in the dev-list have worked wonders for the
stability of our
client's software... AFAIK they'll be put into 3.10 but must be
installed
manualy for 3.9.
There was a post somewhre in the ui list about unrecoverable
garbage. After
my last respone there has been no feeback, however.
Regards, Gary,
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of
Bill Schwab
Sent: 01 November 2007 2:31 AM To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [UI] [Slightly OT] Stability of Squeak
Gang,
Has there been a resolution of the (sorry if I am suffering
from memory
corruption here) non-collectable garbage under Gary's enhancements? Another thing that disturbed me was the Croquet group(???)
threatening
to drop Squeak servers in favor of Java or similar. There were some semaphore/delay/shared queue kinds of fixes. Did they make it into Squeak?
Please don't do my homework for me. I am hoping someone here
happens to
remember the details.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
UI mailing list UI@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui
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On Oct 31, 2007, at 10:07 PM, Gary Chambers wrote:
I've not noticed a particular increase in image size, myself. The semaphore fixes posted in the dev-list have worked wonders for the stability of our client's software... AFAIK they'll be put into 3.10 but must be installed manualy for 3.9.
There was a post somewhre in the ui list about unrecoverable garbage. After my last respone there has been no feeback, however.
Hey Gary - yes, I haven't given any more feedback because I've been heads down on a project and haven't been using the UI enhancements. You thought it was likely related to the taskbar; I'll try to use the Enhancements without the taskbar and see if it makes any difference.
Regards,
Brian
Regards, Gary,
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Bill Schwab Sent: 01 November 2007 2:31 AM To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [UI] [Slightly OT] Stability of Squeak
Gang,
Has there been a resolution of the (sorry if I am suffering from memory corruption here) non-collectable garbage under Gary's enhancements? Another thing that disturbed me was the Croquet group(???) threatening to drop Squeak servers in favor of Java or similar. There were some semaphore/delay/shared queue kinds of fixes. Did they make it into Squeak?
Please don't do my homework for me. I am hoping someone here happens to remember the details.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
UI mailing list UI@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui
UI mailing list UI@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui
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