Jason,
Understood/agreed. In fact I would expect to see a MorphicWorldPresenter that would allow one to incorporate morphs into an MVP framework. I probably would start out using Morphic for views, and once that was working, start looking for an alternative. It should be possible to coexist so that: (1) there will be a prayer of people looking at it let alone using it; (2) who wants to start writing an IDE while reworking the GUI =:0
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
jason.johnson.081@gmail.com 09/18/07 1:06 PM >>>
On 9/16/07, Bill Schwab BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu wrote:
I am not sure that we are actually trying to ditch Morphic, so much as offer an alternative to it.
With the MVP proposals I don't think we are doing either. I think Morphic could be used for the view if we want.
I hope people don't take my questioning of Morphic as an indication that MVP has to replace it. I think these are two totally different issues.
Perhaps we can offer a choice between Morphic and "The Welch Thing" on a per-use basis.
Personally I see this choice as the power of the MVP model. We can create a domain class, a presenter for it and a view (or a few) for each possible View type (e.g. Tweak, Morphic, OpenGL, Seaside?), which can be selected automatically depending on user preferences. _______________________________________________ UI mailing list UI@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui
Exactly my thoughts, though more fleshed out with your more thorough knowledge.
On 9/19/07, Bill Schwab BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu wrote:
Jason,
Understood/agreed. In fact I would expect to see a MorphicWorldPresenter that would allow one to incorporate morphs into an MVP framework. I probably would start out using Morphic for views, and once that was working, start looking for an alternative. It should be possible to coexist so that: (1) there will be a prayer of people looking at it let alone using it; (2) who wants to start writing an IDE while reworking the GUI =:0
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
jason.johnson.081@gmail.com 09/18/07 1:06 PM >>>
On 9/16/07, Bill Schwab BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu wrote:
I am not sure that we are actually trying to ditch Morphic, so much as offer an alternative to it.
With the MVP proposals I don't think we are doing either. I think Morphic could be used for the view if we want.
I hope people don't take my questioning of Morphic as an indication that MVP has to replace it. I think these are two totally different issues.
Perhaps we can offer a choice between Morphic and "The Welch Thing" on a per-use basis.
Personally I see this choice as the power of the MVP model. We can create a domain class, a presenter for it and a view (or a few) for each possible View type (e.g. Tweak, Morphic, OpenGL, Seaside?), which can be selected automatically depending on user preferences. _______________________________________________ UI mailing list UI@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui
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