Gary,
1. Fair enough. 2. I don't think it's either, but who knows what I grabbed. The image is a working one from my Ubuntu box.
3. This one hurts. With that said, I am willing to work at making it work; it is one of my main hopes for this group. With much respect for what you have done and gratitude for your sharing it, and for releasing it for us to play with it<g>, tabbing is meaningless if a twitch pushes the mouse and snaps the cursor away. As I said, I will gladly help out if the group agrees that this is the right way to go. I need to look at the code some, but you are close to having my vote in that regard.
4. I'll grab another image and try again. 5. Very impressive. 6. Let me rephrase my dumb question: is #textEditorNormalFillStyleFor: the right place to try to change the workspace background color? Understood about the fill style - I am just wondering whether that is the right place to set it for the workspaces and code panes in browsers and the debugger.
Thanks again!!!!
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
gazzaguru2@btinternet.com 8/29/2007 1:50 PM >>>
One by one:
1. Probably best to close all uncecessary windows before installing. 2. Not tested on 3.10 or with OmniBrowser yet. 3. Input still follows mouse cursor, though tabbing works if mouse is still (future enhancement maybe that will change a lot of Morphic code). 4. #modalMorph see point 1. 5. Built on-the fly, just work quickly (I was astonished too). 6. Not sure what you mean about the "ledger" style. For the themes answer any valid fillstyle (Color, GradientFillStyle etc.)
Hope this helps...
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Bill Schwab Sent: 29 August 2007 7:35 pm To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: RE: [UI] Widgets ready
Gary,
Moniticello seems to have something personal against me (perhaps because I have never taken the time to figure it out). That didn't go well, but loading via the filelist seemed to work fine.
I am getting some DNU walkbacks re #topWindow. System windows open prior to the upgrade are often unwilling to close (though the file list did??) and some things such as sender/implementors in the IDE will not open. Zurgle did some similar things IIRC, though I also recall being able to halo things out of existence there, but am not having luck with that here.
At least in the basic controls example, I am finding the input focus follows the mouse cursor, and I thought I read that you had addressed that (or is there more I need to load or configure?). For example, after clicking in the text entry field, the focus gets stolen by simply mousing over the disabled text entry or various lists and maybe groups. I _think_ I have the image set to not do that kind of thing, at least not any more than usual. Is the behavior expected, or should I grab a new image? At least closing extant windows starts going bad in #promptForCancel and PSUIManager>>confirm:. In trying to learn about it, I chose Implementors of... in the debugger and got what appears to the same basic problem in #modalMorph.
Semi-rhetorical question: how did you get the task bar previews to work so quickly? Are they cached, or do you build them on the fly?
I am afraid that I must tear myself away for now. More later.
Dumb question: one of the things I have long liked in Dolphin is the ledger color backgrounds in their editors. What would be the best place to make a change that would affect workspaces, code panes of the browsers and debugger, etc.? I found #textEditorNormalFillStyleFor:, but its complexity in the soft theme makes me wonder whether its the right thing - nothing looks like that would be required to render it??
Let's see, it was 20 minutes ago I was saying I needed to stop fiddling :)
Thanks!!
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
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6. The theming only applies to the text editor/entry morphs created via the theme, for compatability for the moment.
As for 3., I've kind of got used to the focus-follows-mouse thing. It can be changed, but, as I said, it required (even more) invasive code into Morphic! Personally I'd be happy to do that, preference-based, of course...
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Bill Schwab Sent: 29 August 2007 8:22 pm To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: RE: [UI] Widgets ready
Gary,
1. Fair enough. 2. I don't think it's either, but who knows what I grabbed. The image is a working one from my Ubuntu box.
3. This one hurts. With that said, I am willing to work at making it work; it is one of my main hopes for this group. With much respect for what you have done and gratitude for your sharing it, and for releasing it for us to play with it<g>, tabbing is meaningless if a twitch pushes the mouse and snaps the cursor away. As I said, I will gladly help out if the group agrees that this is the right way to go. I need to look at the code some, but you are close to having my vote in that regard.
4. I'll grab another image and try again. 5. Very impressive. 6. Let me rephrase my dumb question: is #textEditorNormalFillStyleFor: the right place to try to change the workspace background color? Understood about the fill style - I am just wondering whether that is the right place to set it for the workspaces and code panes in browsers and the debugger.
Thanks again!!!!
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
gazzaguru2@btinternet.com 8/29/2007 1:50 PM >>>
One by one:
1. Probably best to close all uncecessary windows before installing. 2. Not tested on 3.10 or with OmniBrowser yet. 3. Input still follows mouse cursor, though tabbing works if mouse is still (future enhancement maybe that will change a lot of Morphic code). 4. #modalMorph see point 1. 5. Built on-the fly, just work quickly (I was astonished too). 6. Not sure what you mean about the "ledger" style. For the themes answer any valid fillstyle (Color, GradientFillStyle etc.)
Hope this helps...
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Bill Schwab Sent: 29 August 2007 7:35 pm To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: RE: [UI] Widgets ready
Gary,
Moniticello seems to have something personal against me (perhaps because I have never taken the time to figure it out). That didn't go well, but loading via the filelist seemed to work fine.
I am getting some DNU walkbacks re #topWindow. System windows open prior to the upgrade are often unwilling to close (though the file list did??) and some things such as sender/implementors in the IDE will not open. Zurgle did some similar things IIRC, though I also recall being able to halo things out of existence there, but am not having luck with that here.
At least in the basic controls example, I am finding the input focus follows the mouse cursor, and I thought I read that you had addressed that (or is there more I need to load or configure?). For example, after clicking in the text entry field, the focus gets stolen by simply mousing over the disabled text entry or various lists and maybe groups. I _think_ I have the image set to not do that kind of thing, at least not any more than usual. Is the behavior expected, or should I grab a new image? At least closing extant windows starts going bad in #promptForCancel and PSUIManager>>confirm:. In trying to learn about it, I chose Implementors of... in the debugger and got what appears to the same basic problem in #modalMorph.
Semi-rhetorical question: how did you get the task bar previews to work so quickly? Are they cached, or do you build them on the fly?
I am afraid that I must tear myself away for now. More later.
Dumb question: one of the things I have long liked in Dolphin is the ledger color backgrounds in their editors. What would be the best place to make a change that would affect workspaces, code panes of the browsers and debugger, etc.? I found #textEditorNormalFillStyleFor:, but its complexity in the soft theme makes me wonder whether its the right thing - nothing looks like that would be required to render it??
Let's see, it was 20 minutes ago I was saying I needed to stop fiddling :)
Thanks!!
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
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