Hi Ken,
squeak-dev releases already saw a lot of different naming schemes. The current one is the best I found currently. If you have any idea on how to improve, please tell me. The last number will nearly always be 1 so it's no big deal. You could also change the 'dev' to 'ken' for example.
If you have anything in your custom images that you think can fit in my dev images, please tell me.
I also like to have updated tools, that's why I made the dev-images the first time.
Greetings,
Damien Cassou
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Ken G. Brown kbrown@mac.com wrote:
Just a minor issue thought regarding dev image naming convention...
When you release, I find that I bring a fresh dev image and changes into a new folder with the same name, then open it, and immediately save as new version giving the following: sq3.10-7159dev08.04.1 - this is the folder sq3.10-7159dev08.04.1.changes sq3.10-7159dev08.04.1.image sq3.10-7159dev08.04.2.changes sq3.10-7159dev08.04.2.image
which is good, because the versions end up in the right order.
Small problem would come if you released a sq3.10-7159dev08.04.2 since there would be a naming conflict because I already have one of those. I would not be putting it into the same folder in any case, but there would then be versions on my system with same names, with totally different meanings.
Perhaps you have found this as well.
The issue is a side effect of how Squeak figures out the name for the new version, and maybe that is what you do to get the name in the first place.
No biggy, but this will most likely apply to other release versions too so if we give it some thought, it might be helpful.
As you might have guessed, messy versioning systems is one of my pet peeves! :) I haven't really looked into it seriously but one would think version numbering must have been beaten to death somewhere already, wouldn't you think?
Any ideas?
Love the dev releases by the way. I'm now able to build my customized image from your new releases via Installer in about 15 minutes, loading all Keith's stuff, everything I need to use VMMaker, all my own work, reloaded custom named Workspaces from text files with various snippets and stuff I need to keep around, etc., etc.
It drives me crazy to know that someone somewhere has fixed stuff that might be an issue I would run into, therefore I like to keep up to date. Don't know how people can stand to work in old images.
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At 8:09 PM +0200 4/13/08, Damien Cassou apparently wrote:
Hi Ken,
squeak-dev releases already saw a lot of different naming schemes. The current one is the best I found currently. If you have any idea on how to improve, please tell me. The last number will nearly always be 1 so it's no big deal. You could also change the 'dev' to 'ken' for example.
Don't get me wrong, the current convention seems pretty good. Here's a pretty good rundown on software versioning http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versioning Actually just adding a character at the end would work I guess. However if you changed from 'dev' in the middle, to 'dev' at the end, that would also do it. Before doing so tho, we should have a look at the Versioning link to see if there are ideas for improvement. It seems like your image naming conventions are a bit stuck with keeping synch with whatever the release naming convention is, as well.
If you have anything in your custom images that you think can fit in my dev images, please tell me.
I've been following Keith's recommendations at http://installer.pbwiki.com for the most part except tidy and clean and am sometimes unsure of what is already in the dev image and what is not. Question-do you use Installer for building the dev images? If not, are there some issues with doing that? I haven't looked closely at how you build. Perhaps a dev image build script on the Installer wiki would be good.
I also like to have updated tools, that's why I made the dev-images the first time.
Yep! Appreciate it...
Ken G. Brown
Greetings,
Damien Cassou
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Ken G. Brown kbrown@mac.com wrote:
Just a minor issue thought regarding dev image naming convention...
When you release, I find that I bring a fresh dev image and changes into a new folder with the same name, then open it, and immediately save as new version giving the following: sq3.10-7159dev08.04.1 - this is the folder sq3.10-7159dev08.04.1.changes sq3.10-7159dev08.04.1.image sq3.10-7159dev08.04.2.changes sq3.10-7159dev08.04.2.image
which is good, because the versions end up in the right order.
Small problem would come if you released a sq3.10-7159dev08.04.2 since there would be a naming conflict because I already have one of those. I would not be putting it into the same folder in any case, but there would then be versions on my system with same names, with totally different meanings.
Perhaps you have found this as well.
The issue is a side effect of how Squeak figures out the name for the new version, and maybe that is what you do to get the name in the first place.
No biggy, but this will most likely apply to other release versions too so if we give it some thought, it might be helpful.
As you might have guessed, messy versioning systems is one of my pet peeves! :) I haven't really looked into it seriously but one would think version numbering must have been beaten to death somewhere already, wouldn't you think?
Any ideas?
Love the dev releases by the way. I'm now able to build my customized image from your new releases via Installer in about 15 minutes, loading all Keith's stuff, everything I need to use VMMaker, all my own work, reloaded custom named Workspaces from text files with various snippets and stuff I need to keep around, etc., etc.
It drives me crazy to know that someone somewhere has fixed stuff that might be an issue I would run into, therefore I like to keep up to date. Don't know how people can stand to work in old images.
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