etoys-dev September 2007

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Re: [Etoys] #2939 NORM Trial-3: Etoys should use zero CPU when unmapped
by Zarro Boogs per Child 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

#2939: Etoys should use zero CPU when unmapped -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: bert | Owner: etoys Type: defect | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Trial-3 Component: etoys-activity | Version: Resolution: | Keywords: Verified: 0 | -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment(by bert): Yeah we changed our minds about that. Current theory is to use X visibility events, but we don't get them reliably. -- Ticket URL: <https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/2939#comment:3> One Laptop Per Child <https://dev.laptop.org> OLPC bug tracking system

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[Etoys] Accents in Etoys fonts
by Juliano Bittencourt 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

Hi folks, In the XO trial in Porto Alegre, we are starting a systematic use of eToys with the students. In this moment we are working with children from the 3th and 4th grades, but very soon we will start with older students. We are experiencing several problems, from the noisy touchpad to the machine performance (children have B2-7 with 128mb of RAM), what makes the use of etoys sometimes very slow. But since these are problems specific of this version of the laptop prototype, we hope they will be solved in the near future when final version of the machine become available. But now, there is a eToys related issue that sometimes makes the children very frustrated that is the absence of accents in the text object. Portuguese is a language that makes heavily use of accents, and children don't understands why is impossible to create words without them. So, why eToys don't accepts? Is that a font related issue or a squeak bug? Best, Juliano

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[Etoys] [bug][fix]Color sees tile viewer feedback rectangle
by Karl 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

The Viewer feedback rectangle was showing the wrong height. Fixed here. Karl With attachment this time... 'From etoys2.1 of 19 August 2007 [latest update: #1607] on 9 September 2007 at 3:33:03 pm'! !ViewerLine methodsFor: 'slot' stamp: 'kfr 9/9/2007 15:32'! addGetterFeedback "Add feedback during mouseover of a getter" | aMorph endMorph | endMorph _ (#(touchesA: #seesColor: #overlaps: color:sees:) includes: self elementSymbol) ifTrue: [submorphs seventh] ifFalse: [submorphs fifth]. aMorph _ RectangleMorph new bounds: ((submorphs third topLeft - (2@-1)) corner: (endMorph bottomRight + (2@-1))). aMorph height:(submorphs third height + 1). aMorph beTransparent; borderWidth: 2; borderColor: (Color r: 1.0 g: 0.355 b: 0.839); lock. ActiveWorld addHighlightMorph: aMorph for: nil. " Color fromUser (Color r: 1.0 g: 0.355 b: 0.839) "! !

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Re: [Etoys] #2939 NORM Trial-3: Etoys should use zero CPU when unmapped
by Zarro Boogs per Child 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

#2939: Etoys should use zero CPU when unmapped -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: bert | Owner: etoys Type: defect | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Trial-3 Component: etoys-activity | Version: Resolution: | Keywords: Verified: 0 | -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment(by danw): Replying to [ticket:2939 bert]: > Also verify the window manager actually unmaps our window. It doesn't, it just restacks the windows. -- Ticket URL: <https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/2939#comment:2> One Laptop Per Child <https://dev.laptop.org> OLPC bug tracking system

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Re: [Etoys] #2817 NORM Trial-3: Rendering of bitmaps with alpha in Nebraska client.
by Zarro Boogs per Child 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

#2817: Rendering of bitmaps with alpha in Nebraska client. -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: ohshima | Owner: etoys Type: enhancement | Status: closed Priority: normal | Milestone: Trial-3 Component: etoys-activity | Version: Resolution: fixed | Keywords: Verified: 0 | -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Changes (by ohshima): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed Comment: Fixed in Etoys update number 1620. -- Ticket URL: <https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/2817#comment:1> One Laptop Per Child <https://dev.laptop.org> OLPC bug tracking system

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Re: [Etoys] #3361 NORM Untriag: Hard to quit Etoys
by Zarro Boogs per Child 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

#3361: Hard to quit Etoys -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: tess | Owner: etoys Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: normal | Milestone: Untriaged Component: etoys-activity | Version: Resolution: fixed | Keywords: Verified: 0 | -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Changes (by ohshima): * status: new => closed * resolution: => fixed Comment: In Etoys update number 1630: - The grid is now two pixel width and coarser and blue. - The menu bar won't show during the saving. - "Saving" feedback is shown. -- Ticket URL: <https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/3361#comment:4> One Laptop Per Child <https://dev.laptop.org> OLPC bug tracking system

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Re: [Etoys] #3361 NORM Untriag: Hard to quit Etoys
by Zarro Boogs per Child 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

#3361: Hard to quit Etoys -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: tess | Owner: etoys Type: defect | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Untriaged Component: etoys-activity | Version: Resolution: | Keywords: Verified: 0 | -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Comment(by tess): There is indeed a yellow gird overlay. After the grid disappears, Etoys keep opening. -- Ticket URL: <https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/3361#comment:3> One Laptop Per Child <https://dev.laptop.org> OLPC bug tracking system

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[Etoys] some comments
by carla gomez monroy 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

eToys team, eToys, I love it. It is so powerful. However, for some people it can be quite intimidating to get a blank screen when they click on "Make A New Project." The Demo is nice but it for example doesn't say "click on the right (circle) button to get the icons for manipulating the object" The Tutorial and the Gallery of Projects, children see them as games not as things they can make or modify. The use of eToys may not seem that intuitive from the perspective of teachers or students who have just received an XO laptop and it is the first laptop or even computer they have ever touched. I have given to the teachers in printed form * powerful ideas in the classroom * eToys quick guide * eToys manual and the three together are ~200 pages long. And some won't try it by themselves until someone sits with them and goes through it. Maybe more so if they are rural primary teachers. Some might be inclined to just learn the basics and stay there. How can we go about it so they feel curious about trying it, and keep on learning on their own or with their peers or their students? I'm thinking on how can we do it, that it doesn't need a full time person introducing it, or if so, how can it be in a short short time. Best regards, Carla

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[Etoys] New version
by root＠crank.laptop.org 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

Updating ee87d8e..9490153 Fast forward ChangeLog | 56 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++ Content.revision | 2 +- Makefile.in | 9 +++++++- NEWS | 18 +++++++++++++++- etoys.spec | 20 ++++++++++++++++-- 5 files changed, 98 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) commit 9490153828d1bb7c0b927da28b458fc6910e3706 Author: Bert Freudenberg <bert(a)freudenbergs.de> Date: Thu Sep 13 01:00:51 2007 +0200 Content rev 38: install QuickGuides, update launcher D Content/Launcher.020.pr A Content/Launcher.023.pr U Content/etoys.image A Content/QuickGuides A Content/QuickGuides/ObjectCatMakerButton.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/PaintStampCopy.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/PaintEllipses.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/SuppliesAllScriptStopGo.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/ObjectCatDigitalImages.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/HaloArrowAtCenter.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/SuppliesJoystick.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/HaloColorCopyScale.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/ScriptTileForwardby5.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/PaintColorPalette.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/HaloCenterofRotation.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/ObjectCatGrabPatch1.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/MenuButtonToFireScript.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/HaloTile.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/MenuGrabMeRevealMe.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/MenuToolWatchers.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/SuppliesSoundRecorder.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/ScriptTileXY.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/PaintColorPicker.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/HaloMenu.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/HaloHandlesAppear.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/ScriptTileTurnBy5.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/NavBarChooseLanguage.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/HaloRotateHandle.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/ScriptTileBounce.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/HaloMoveToTrash.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/MenuScriptorIconSet.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/ScriptTilesFowardTurn.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/PaintPolygon.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/ScriptTileHeading1.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/HaloMovePickUp.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/MenuNormalTicking.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/SuppliesObjectCatalog.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/ScriptTileStamp.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/NavBarKeepFindProjects.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/PaintStraightLine.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/ScriptTileScaleFactor.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/BooksTopBorderIcons.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/MenuViewerIconsSet.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/PaintRectangle.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/ObjectCatLasso.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/ScriptTilesHideShow.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/ObjectCatSlider.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/ScriptTilePenUse.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/ScriptTilesTestCategory.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/HaloViewer.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/HaloCollapse.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/PaintBrushes.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/PaintBucket.sexp.data.gz A Content/QuickGuides/SuppliesText.sexp.data.gz Updated to revision 38. Creating http://etoys.laptop.org/src/etoys-image-and-pr.zip -rw-rw-r-- 1 bert etoys 19767110 2007-09-12 19:00 etoys-image-and-pr.zip

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[Etoys] Fwd: SaferSafeDelay
by Bert Freudenberg 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

Hmm, did we miss that, too? - Bert - Begin forwarded message: > From: "Eliot Miranda" <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> > Date: September 12, 2007 23:23:45 GMT+02:00 > To: v3dot10(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org, "Andreas Raab" > <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> > Subject: [V3dot10] SaferSafeDelay > Reply-To: "Discussion about development of Squeak 3.10" > <v3dot10(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > > Hi Folks, > > we discovered Andreas' SafeDelay goodness is missing the class > definition that defines the added variables FinishedDelay > RunTimerEventLoop ScheduledDelay TimerEventLoop as class > variables. Find a corrected version attached. > _______________________________________________ > V3dot10 mailing list > V3dot10(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/v3dot10 >

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