etoys-dev August 2008

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Re: [Etoys] Squeak and EToys packages for Fedora and OLPC
by Bert Freudenberg 05 Sep '08

05 Sep '08

Hi Gavin, > (If this message is inappropriate for this list - I apologies, and > please let me know this.) It's not inappropriate, but most list members have no experience with packaging software for a Linux distribution, or even know about how software is normally maintained in the open-source community, what separates an author from a maintainer etc. Do you have a pointer to a short introduction into this? Until now, we (the authors) did all the end-user releases for various platforms on our own, so this is new land for most of us. Thank you for taking this on! - Bert - > My name is Gavin Romig-Koch, I've been working on creating Squeak and > EToys RPMs that are (hopefully will be) usable and acceptable to both > the Fedora and OLPC distributions. I have posted my first draft of > these packages and would appreciate a review by anyone who is > interested > in such things. > > http://code.google.com/p/squeak-fedora/ > > This consists of .spec files, .patch files, and a Makefile to download > upstream "sources" and build packages from them. There is also a > TODO > file listing the things I think/know need to work on before these are > ready for Fedora or OLPC. > > If you find issues contact me. > > -gavin...

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[Etoys] Some extra information for Etoys translation
by Yoshiki Ohshima 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

Hello, We've added some mechanism to Etoys so that you can (indirectly) specify the rendering mechanism for text in Etoys. Soon an few entries will show up on the Pootle server, and one of these is "Linux-Font". If you think your language should be rendered with Pango, specify the prefered font name as the translation. Or, if you think it is not necessary, leave it blank. The font name doesn't have to exact; as long as the entry is not empty, the Etoys system asks Pango to render text. Likewise, please provide the language name in the language for "Language-Name". It will be displayed in the language chooser menu. The entries are the same as Scratch's; so I will copy-and-paste from Scratch's to Etoys as a default. Sayamindu, could you run the script that push stuff from git to Pootle, if the next 24 hour cycle is not too close? -- Yoshiki

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[Etoys] SqueakNOS ready to try
by Hilaire Fernandes 30 Aug '08

30 Aug '08

It looks like there is an OLPC dedicated SqueakNOS to download at http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3891&package_id=3865&… Gerardo also posts progress at http://people.squeakfoundation.org/person/gera/ -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

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[Etoys] Mongolian translations for Etoys
by Korakurider 29 Aug '08

29 Aug '08

Hello. I had a look at the file and tried to compile it. In original PO source in the MS Word document, translations were entered as casually formatted and has syntax glitches. I created revised version that conforms to the latest etoys.pot (update2076) and can be compiled successfully. Please see files attached to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7976. Mongolian team and Sayamindu, could you please review the file with them and upload it to Pootle? Cheers, /Korakurider I revised it *with zero knowledge about the language* (even the correct spelling of the language name :-) so I might introduce additional typos, sorry. On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Samuel Klein <sj(a)laptop.org> wrote: > That's fantastic :-) The etoys team will be delighted... Sayamindu, is > there anything else you need to add these to pootle? > > SJ > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Enkhmunkh Zurgaanjin <enky(a)mit.edu> wrote: >> >> Hi Elana, >> >> I have just finished translating E-Toys (around 27'000 words) into >> Mongolian. I >> spent most of my time in finding right words in Mongolian. I attached the >> translation with this email. >> >> Best, >> Enky > > _______________________________________________ > Etoys mailing list > Etoys(a)lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys > >

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[Etoys] on DrGeoII loading
by Ties Stuij 29 Aug '08

29 Aug '08

He Hilaire, First off, congrats with your ESUG prize. Secondly, I tried loading DrGeoII on the XO and experienced the 2.15 min. loading time. Now I know this sounds obvious, but have you concidered just taking the pragmatic route: packing an image in the XO bundle? Loading a pre-geo-ed image takes about 13 secs on my XO. This will of course bloat it up by more than a couple of mb's, but if schools would actually integrate your app on an XO or comparable machine in the classroom, I'd say the 20-odd extra mb's are more than offset by not having to go through those annoyingly long loading/compiling times. /Ties

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[Etoys] questions about XO etoys backup
by Timothy Falconer 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

We're trying to extract our best Etoys projects from our pilots to put on our website. We've been using a shell script that uses rsync to backup Etoys projects from our XO pilots (build 703) rsync -rltvz --modify-window=1 --stats --progress /home/olpc/.sugar/ default/org.vpri.EtoysActivity/data/MyEtoys/Squeaklets/ I'm noticing some strangeness about the backup files ... 1) some don't have the .pr extension 2) some don't seem to have the versioning info in the name (blah. 002.pr ... seems only the ones with the .pr extension do) 3) sometimes there's directories that contain html, rc.gz, and manifest files A few questions: 1) can you keep the .pr extension on all of them (makes our life *much* easier) 2) for the files without the versioning, are we possibly losing some versions of same-named projects? (even the latest?) 3) are there any bits from directories other than the one above that we need to preserve (we don't care about description/tag journal stuff) 4) will the directly above change in new builds? Thanks, Tim -- Timothy Falconer http://bigfractaltangle.com 610-393-1889 mobile Immuexa Corporation http://immuexa.com 610-797-3100

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[Etoys] Bug on rename variable
by karl 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

If you select to rename a variable, don't change the name and press Accept you get a PreDebugWindow. Karl

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Re: [Etoys] [Etoys-notify] #8163 HIGH 8.2.0 (: Mongolian is not rendered correctly
by Bert Freudenberg 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

Am 27.08.2008 um 23:10 schrieb Zarro Boogs per Child: > #8163: Mongolian is not rendered correctly > ------------------------------ > +--------------------------------------------- > Reporter: bert | Owner: etoys > Type: defect | Status: new > Priority: high | Milestone: 8.2.0 (was Update.2) > Component: etoys-activity | Version: not specified > Resolution: | Keywords: > Next_action: code | Verified: 0 > Blockedby: | Blocking: > ------------------------------ > +--------------------------------------------- > > Comment(by ohshima): > > Replying to [comment:2 korakurider]: >> How about having special entry in PO (not message at all actually) >> that > msgstr is switch whether Pango is to be used, then we could configure > appropriate setting for each languages. (like that Scratch have > language > dependent configurations in POs) > > Yes. That would be good. And language name can be supplied > (#8150), too, > as Scratch does. > > I'm writing a change set that "exports" the extra information into the > .pot file (the keys are exactly the same as Scratch; we can > interpret it > to figure our whether pango should be used or not). In the worst > case, > within 24 hours it should show up on the pootle server. So the new strings are at the top of http://etoys.laptop.org/src/po/templates/etoys.pot but it is not quite clear what values a translator would have to fill in. Example values should be added as comment. Also, which of these enables Pango? And why is there a space in " Language-Name"? Anyway, this gives power to the translators, so it is good. But I'm not sure Scratch is the best example to base this on, it has rather simple needs font-wise ... - Bert -

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[Etoys] latests etoys issues
by karl 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

A couple of observations, I have not looked at Trac: Script name edit is has skewed layout, same for morph name Click on Supplies button and then on Paint button the Supplies flap does not collapse Karl

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[Etoys] bug with heading arrow
by karl ramberg 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

With latest updates its easy to drag the heading arrow instead of th morph. If a morph is moved and you drag the arrow its origin is the morphs previous position. the popup dialog could prove to be slightly annoying. help ballon instead ? karl

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