etoys-dev August 2010

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by kharness＠illinois.edu 12 Aug '10

12 Aug '10

Hi Ted, The web page version made it easy for me to find my errors! Sorry I didn't find them earlier. Replace: HaloSiblings.004.pr with HaloSiblings.005 (see attached project, it corrects a sentence with an extra word) Remove: MenuTicksPerSecond.013.pr (page 3 is incorrect but I do not know what to say otherwise) HaloActiveHandles.005.pr (page 4 is broken and I do not know why it doesn't work now) MenuKeyboard-alt-comma.004.pr (it is the same content as MenuEtoysSource.001.pr) Regards, Kathleen

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Thursday ed team meeting
by kharness＠illinois.edu 12 Aug '10

12 Aug '10

Rita, I have an appointment at the meeting time tomorrow and will have to miss this week. I'll read the notes. Re: the agenda item about changing the opening screen All three of the Tutorials and Demo projects are good and I have seen many students try them but, two need some revisions. The Self repeating demo has Navigator Bar graphics from a previous version of Etoys and the locations of things are for older versions too. Text 'You can make things with Etoys' floats up into the NavBar and the ' red text design and paint a car' floats too far down and persists past the page it was intended for. Could the page with 'you can learn to drive a car' be redone using an event theatre like the paint a car page did? Otherwise when a beginner clicks on the blue steering wheel it just sticks to the cursor and no steering results. Getting a halo and using the blue rotate handle is not mentioned. page 6 the spaceship landing scripts and buttons do not show completely, maybe whole the book could be a little bigger. Demon Castle, can/would the author make a few changes to the project? It is introduced as the first tutorial in a series but there is not a second one. The art work is very appealing to kids however, Demon is a problem word in some cultures. I have had students who could not sing Happy Birthday, nor any religious, patriotic, nor songs of celebration of any description in school. They could not sing songs about Halloween for example. Demons, witches etc may push away people from other cultures and religions. The word magic will be a similar problem. Magic could be changed to the word knowledge or power instead, I think those would fit most cases. NB I get a bug report on page 7 and unless one already knows how to open the extra page controls the book ends there, too soon and too baffling for beginners. Page 10 of the book says " to be continued" but there is no book two for a successful beginner to find. The Etoys Challenge all works. Regards, Kathleen

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Re: [etoys-dev] (SQ-749) and Kathleen's question on "What do you mean by Artifacts?"
by Steve Thomas 12 Aug '10

12 Aug '10

I have been reading Alan Kay's Thoughts About Teaching Science and Mathematics To Young Children<http://www.vpri.org/pdf/m2007003a_thoughts.pdf> : > I think one of the trickiest issues in this kind of design is an analogy to > the learning of science itself, and that is *"how much should the > learners/users have to do by themselves vs. how much should the > curriculum/system do for them?"* Most computer users have been mostly > exposed to "productivity tools" in which as many things as possible have > been done for them. The kinds of educational environments we are talking > about here are a*t their best when the learner does the important parts by > themselves, and any black or translucent boxes serve only on the side and > not at the center of the learning.* What is the center and *what is the > side will shift as the learning progresses, and this has to be accommodated. > * By exposing everything in Etoys as "First Principles" (which in this particular case I understand to mean, that we have a minimal set of scripting tiles and objects from which everything can be built) we avoid the "productivity tools" issue because everything is exposed. It is also a beautiful, elegant and exposes a powerful idea. The challenge in a system where everything is done from "First Principles" is that when you are designing an"educational environment" "lesson", or "Artifact" ( better terms might be "playthink" and/or "tool to think with"), it can take a lot of work to build those preferably translucent boxes. And to paraphrase another Alan Kay quote on user interface design: "If it takes one step I'll do it, If it takes two steps I might do it, if it takes three or more steps forget about it!" No, I am not arguing to make things easy for everyone, we need find ways to get kids to have "hard fun." Hard work and ragging a problem are good habits. I also strongly believe that giving kids a "blank canvas" and a great set of brushes and paints is an excellent and preffered method, but not the only one we should use. I am arguing (and struggling) with is how in a "First Principle" system like Etoys, we can find ways to make it easier for teachers/designers (ie: make them more productive). I fear I see in some folks (none on this email list of course) a tendency towards what I initially saw (and fell into myself) as the constructivism trap. Where I encountered people who thought kids should construct all knowledge themselves from Scratch (pun intended ;). As I recall Alan (and others pointing out) we can't expect kids to do that, they will repeat the same mistakes people did over thousands of years. My initial thoughts are a repository of Artifacts that teachers can use along with a set of scripts (the problem with the set of scripts idea is that the scripts in Etoys are not decoupled from the ?morphs? (not sure of the correct term here, but basically the pixels visually representing the object). Bert's idea that we have a Player Variable and the scripts that operate on it is a good one, but I think there may be some bugs there, need to test more. Now I will more directly address Kathleen's question: "What do you mean by "Artifacts". I will switch from "Artifacts" to the term "Playthinks" (which I encountered in the "The Big Book of Brain Games<http://www.amazon.com/Big-Book-Brain-Games-Mathematics/dp/0761134662>" by Ivan Moscovich). One of the best and simplest "Playthinks" for teaching I ever encountered was Robert B. Davis' classroom warm-up (which I showed at Squeakfest and have wrote about here<http://mrstevesscience.blogspot.com/2009/12/taking-tic-tac-toe-to-next-leve…>.) Basically it involves drawing on the board a 4 x 4 grid . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Then having kids pick two numbers and using those two numbers as X and Y counting from 0 at the origin point in the lower left and then If they land on the board marking an X or O until one team wins. Some of the keys to this "Playthink" are: - you let kids puzzle it out for themselves, they figure out the rules, you don't tell them - it contains a powerful idea - it can be easily extended to other concepts (negative numbers, a number is all the ways you can name it, is this game fair ...) - *its fun * Other examples of "Playthinks" would be cuisenaire rods, pentagrams, area blocks, other good "virtual manipulatives" and my feeble attempts Circle Explorer <http://www.squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=10212> and Pattern Blocks and Tools <http://www.squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=10216>. *Bert*, your comments on SQ-749 sparked my writing this, I will address it more specifically in a separate email after some more thought. Including *Alan* so he can correct any misinterpretations and hopefully comment FYI: A lot of other excelent writings from VPRI are here<http://www.vpri.org/html/writings.php>, most are Computer Science related but a number deal with educational issues and Etoys. Stephen On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert(a)freudenbergs.de>wrote: > > On 12.08.2010, at 10:32, Steve Thomas wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:32 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert(a)freudenbergs.de> > wrote: > >> This would likely be simple to implement, but could break existing > projects. E.g. the morphing stuff in the showcase. Maybe you could take a > look? > > > > Checked "Morphing" by Kazuhiro Abe and that should be fine. Each Polygon > in the holder has the same number of vertices and the script simple changes > the positions of the vertices one at a time. > > > > "The Walkers" and associated remixes by P.A. Dreyfus uses a special > category "morphing" which would be great to get into Etoys (although I would > suggest the addition of some way to show/manage the frames) to make the > invisible more visible and to make it easier to create these kind of > animations. Anyway, whether this would be a problem or not depends on how it > is implemented. If he stores complete information about the polygon in each > frame, I see no problems. If he only stores differences and > adds/removes/repositions each vertex that MAY cause a problem. > > > > Anyway if it is a simple change and you can make it, I think I can easily > test the change by opening the project, then file-in the changes and see if > anything breaks. Or you could also ask P.A. Dreyfus (master of polygon's and > connectors) what he thinks as he knows and can check the changes against his > implementation. > > > > Stephen > > Thinking about this more I do not like the proposal. It would makes the > system less predictable. > > Having the new vertex remain at the same position is the only sensible > choice. It matches the "copy" behavior of regular objects, which also appear > in the same position. It would not scale anyway - see this image where I > only inserted 4 vertices. The position quickly converges to the next vertex > position. > > > > > Also, I'd argue that "add a vertex at beginning" and "add a vertex at end" > tiles are not needed in the first place. To be useful they would, as you > noticed, have to be "set cursor to beginning and insert vertex" and "set > cursor to end and insert vertex", because otherwise one cannot assign their > position immediately. But that makes them perform two operations that are > available separately. There is no good reason to coalesce those steps into > one. > > In any case, inserting a vertex should not change the cursor. If you want a > cursor change to occur, insert a tile. > > So my counter-proposal is: remove the "add vertex at beginning" and "add > vertex at end" tiles. (to not break existing projects, the tiles would only > be hidden) > > - Bert - > > > > _______________________________________________ > etoys-dev mailing list > etoys-dev(a)squeakland.org > http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/etoys-dev > >

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Re: [etoys-dev] [etoys-notify] [JIRA] Created: (SQ-749) When you add a vertex to a polygon, the added vertex is at the same location as the another vertex and not visible until moved
by K. K. Subramaniam 12 Aug '10

12 Aug '10

On Thursday 12 Aug 2010 10:08:51 am Stephen Thomas (JIRA) wrote: > When you add a vertex to a polygon, the added vertex is at the same > location as the another vertex and not visible until moved ... > Would suggest when you add a vertex ("at cursor" or "at beginning") it is > placed between the current vertex cursor (or beginning vertex) and the > next vertex. Are there any significant use cases where a new vertex will not be followed by a position change? For visual cue, a small offset (say 2x2) from the current vertex may be sufficient instead of computing the midpoint. > Also set the vertex cursor to the newly created vertex (which > changes its color to blue) and makes it visible. Sounds logical. Subbu

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Re: [etoys-dev] (SQ-749) When you add a vertex to a polygon, the added vertex is at the same location as the another vertex and not visible until moved
by Bert Freudenberg 12 Aug '10

12 Aug '10

On 12.08.2010, at 06:38, Stephen Thomas (JIRA) wrote: > When you add a vertex to a polygon, the added vertex is at the same location as the another vertex and not visible until moved > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Key: SQ-749 > URL: http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-749 > Project: squeakland > Issue Type: Improvement > Reporter: Stephen Thomas > > > Would suggest when you add a vertex ("at cursor" or "at beginning") it is placed between the current vertex cursor (or beginning vertex) and the next vertex. > Also set the vertex cursor to the newly created vertex (which changes its color to blue) and makes it visible. > This would likely be simple to implement, but could break existing projects. E.g. the morphing stuff in the showcase. Maybe you could take a look? - Bert -

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[SVN] commit r407 - in trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de: . todo
by commits＠etoys.squeak.org 12 Aug '10

12 Aug '10

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Re: [etoys-dev] New Etoys QuickGuides by Kathleen Harness
by Steve Thomas 12 Aug '10

12 Aug '10

Ted, Can you send a copy of the code you used to extract the images from the .pr files. This would help me (and others) document some of my projects. Thanks, Stephen On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Ted Kaehler <Ted(a)vpri.org> wrote: > Dear Education Committee: > I forgot to say a big thank you to Kathleen Harness for writing > these new guides. She has created an impressive body of work! > Mind-bogglingly useful. > Kathleen's proposed guides are now visible as web pages. Each guide > is on a web page. The index of pages is on the left. Just click down the > list on the left, and see the guides. Please take a look. It's easy. > > http://tinlizzie.org/quickguides-for-approval/basic-guides-11-Aug-2010/ > > http://tinlizzie.org/quickguides-for-approval/advanced-guides-11-Aug-2010/ > > Bert and I are preparing all of the translated guides for the upcoming > release. > > > --Ted. > > -- > Ted Kaehler > Viewpoints Research Institute > http://www.vpri.org/html/team_bios/kaehler.html > _______________________________________________ > etoys-dev mailing list > etoys-dev(a)squeakland.org > http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/etoys-dev >

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New Etoys QuickGuides by Kathleen Harness
by Ted Kaehler 12 Aug '10

12 Aug '10

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[SVN] commit r406 - trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de
by commits＠etoys.squeak.org 12 Aug '10

12 Aug '10

Author: bf Date: 2010-08-11 22:47:17 +0000 (Wed, 11 Aug 2010) New Revision: 406 Added: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesJoystickGerman.005.pr trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesKlangrekorder.003.pr trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesObjektKatalog.004.pr trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesTextGerman.002.pr trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/indexKurzanleitungen.003.pr Removed: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesJoystickGerman.004.pr trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesKlangrekorder.002.pr trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesObjektKatalog.003.pr trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesTextGerman.001.pr trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/indexKurzanleitungen.001.pr Log: updated 5 German guides (contributed by Ruedeger Baumann) Deleted: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesJoystickGerman.004.pr =================================================================== (Binary files differ) Added: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesJoystickGerman.005.pr =================================================================== (Binary files differ) Property changes on: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesJoystickGerman.005.pr ___________________________________________________________________ Name: svn:mime-type + application/octet-stream Deleted: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesKlangrekorder.002.pr =================================================================== (Binary files differ) Added: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesKlangrekorder.003.pr =================================================================== (Binary files differ) Property changes on: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesKlangrekorder.003.pr ___________________________________________________________________ Name: svn:mime-type + application/octet-stream Deleted: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesObjektKatalog.003.pr =================================================================== (Binary files differ) Added: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesObjektKatalog.004.pr =================================================================== (Binary files differ) Property changes on: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesObjektKatalog.004.pr ___________________________________________________________________ Name: svn:mime-type + application/octet-stream Deleted: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesTextGerman.001.pr =================================================================== (Binary files differ) Added: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesTextGerman.002.pr =================================================================== (Binary files differ) Property changes on: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/SuppliesTextGerman.002.pr ___________________________________________________________________ Name: svn:mime-type + application/octet-stream Deleted: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/indexKurzanleitungen.001.pr =================================================================== (Binary files differ) Added: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/indexKurzanleitungen.003.pr =================================================================== (Binary files differ) Property changes on: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/indexKurzanleitungen.003.pr ___________________________________________________________________ Name: svn:mime-type + application/octet-stream

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[SVN] commit r405 - in trunk/QuickGuides-Projects: de es
by commits＠etoys.squeak.org 12 Aug '10

12 Aug '10

Author: bf Date: 2010-08-08 22:26:10 +0000 (Sun, 08 Aug 2010) New Revision: 405 Added: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/HaloWerkzeuge.002.pr Removed: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/es/HaloTaman?\204?\131o-Color-Copiar.004.pr Log: QuickGuides: remove one duplicated Spanish guide, add one missing German Added: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/HaloWerkzeuge.002.pr =================================================================== (Binary files differ) Property changes on: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/de/HaloWerkzeuge.002.pr ___________________________________________________________________ Name: svn:mime-type + application/octet-stream Deleted: trunk/QuickGuides-Projects/es/HaloTaman?\204?\131o-Color-Copiar.004.pr =================================================================== (Binary files differ)

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