Hello,
We finally get around to attack the accented character input problem (mainly thanks to Hiroshima-san). At least on OLPC, the "dead-key" style accented character input seems to work fine with the new VM.
However, when I switched my Gnome setting on Fedora laptop (it has keyboard in Japanese layout) to use Spanish layout keyboard, and switch the language to Spanish, my keyboard went into a strange state and I needed to do some random key combinations to get to a stuation where the new VM works fine.
I do have a feeling that on a properly configured spanish Linux install with the real spanish keyboard and everything, this you should be able to type accented characters (and ' and `, etc.) in the way you like. Please test it and let us know how it goes. Right now, you have to compile the VM by yourself... as soon as we are more confident, Bert can make a RPM, and Ian will add this to the mainstream Squeak VM. (Or, making RPM is almost free... Probably by the time I wake up tomorrow, Bert may have a precompiled VM^^;)
Sorry for taking so long to address the problem.
-- Yoshiki
We finally get around to attack the accented character input problem (mainly thanks to Hiroshima-san). At least on OLPC, the "dead-key" style accented character input seems to work fine with the new VM.
Oh, I forgot to mention that you have to use the latest OLPC etoys image. To try it, please get:
http://tinlizzie.org/olpc/etoys-dev-3.0.zip and http://tinlizzie.org/olpc/EtoysV3.sources
and SVN the source code for the VM from:
http://squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/olpc/
-- Yoshiki
On Mar 20, 2008, at 6:26 , Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
Hello,
We finally get around to attack the accented character input problem (mainly thanks to Hiroshima-san). At least on OLPC, the "dead-key" style accented character input seems to work fine with the new VM.
However, when I switched my Gnome setting on Fedora laptop (it has keyboard in Japanese layout) to use Spanish layout keyboard, and switch the language to Spanish, my keyboard went into a strange state and I needed to do some random key combinations to get to a stuation where the new VM works fine.
I do have a feeling that on a properly configured spanish Linux install with the real spanish keyboard and everything, this you should be able to type accented characters (and ' and `, etc.) in the way you like. Please test it and let us know how it goes. Right now, you have to compile the VM by yourself... as soon as we are more confident, Bert can make a RPM, and Ian will add this to the mainstream Squeak VM. (Or, making RPM is almost free... Probably by the time I wake up tomorrow, Bert may have a precompiled VM^^;)
Hehe. Not until next week I guess. We need to switch the image rpm to 3.0, too, because of the new DBus plugin. For that we need to rebuild the guides etc. And uploading that takes ages when I'm out of office (I'm almost off to a long Easter weekend).
- Bert -
The OLPC Spanish keyboard layout uses dead_keys. The US International keyboard uses Unicode combining characters. I am serious thinking of switching to dead_keys for everywhere I can, as I think it makes it easier for everyone. But I am now troubled by Yoshiki's report.
-walter
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
On Mar 20, 2008, at 6:26 , Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
Hello,
We finally get around to attack the accented character input problem (mainly thanks to Hiroshima-san). At least on OLPC, the "dead-key" style accented character input seems to work fine with the new VM.
However, when I switched my Gnome setting on Fedora laptop (it has keyboard in Japanese layout) to use Spanish layout keyboard, and switch the language to Spanish, my keyboard went into a strange state and I needed to do some random key combinations to get to a stuation where the new VM works fine.
I do have a feeling that on a properly configured spanish Linux install with the real spanish keyboard and everything, this you should be able to type accented characters (and ' and `, etc.) in the way you like. Please test it and let us know how it goes. Right now, you have to compile the VM by yourself... as soon as we are more confident, Bert can make a RPM, and Ian will add this to the mainstream Squeak VM. (Or, making RPM is almost free... Probably by the time I wake up tomorrow, Bert may have a precompiled VM^^;)
Hehe. Not until next week I guess. We need to switch the image rpm to 3.0, too, because of the new DBus plugin. For that we need to rebuild the guides etc. And uploading that takes ages when I'm out of office (I'm almost off to a long Easter weekend).
- Bert -
Etoys mailing list Etoys@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys
Walter,
The OLPC Spanish keyboard layout uses dead_keys. The US International keyboard uses Unicode combining characters. I am serious thinking of switching to dead_keys for everywhere I can, as I think it makes it easier for everyone. But I am now troubled by Yoshiki's report.
*Now*, Etoys supports both keyboards more or less, it is ok for OLPC (and for us) to switching to dead_keys for everywhere.
There are some other obscure input methods that GTK tends to support but Etoys still doesn't. But as long as you switch to dead_key or multi_key or Unicode combining characters, we can do it without a (big) problem.
-- Yoshiki
etoys-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org