Hello again --
We would like to inform you that a new project was published at www.swa.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/projects/olpc/. This time it's a game called StackAttack.
Happy New Year!
HPI Software Architecture Group http://www.swa.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/
Robert Krahn wrote:
Hello again --
We would like to inform you that a new project was published at www.swa.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/projects/olpc/ http://www.swa.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/projects/olpc/. This time it's a game called StackAttack.
Hi, thanks for great games :-) I have one suggestion: make the games resist being picked up. You can do that with the halo menu. When the game is accidentally attached to the mouse it can be quite confusing and make gameplay no fun.
karl
Happy New Year!
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Am Jan 12, 2008 um 12:59 PM schrieb Karl:
Hi, thanks for great games :-) I have one suggestion: make the games resist being picked up. You can do that with the halo menu. When the game is accidentally attached to the mouse it can be quite confusing and make gameplay no fun.
Thanks! We will update the games a bit at a time.
By the way we released a new game. This time it is Funtowers, a game in which the player has to combine related cards in a given time. Try it out, you can download it here: http://www.swa.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/ projects/olpc/
Have fun! Robert
HPI Software Architecture Group http://www.swa.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/
Robert,
It is really nice to see these games examples. On top of theirs entertaining effects, they can be interesting source of inspiration for the kids to learn about programming. Not to mention the live nature of the underneath Smalltalk environment make it fun to experiment while the game is running. See attached pictures.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Robert Krahn robert.krahn@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:
Am Jan 12, 2008 um 12:59 PM schrieb Karl: Hi, thanks for great games :-) I have one suggestion: make the games resist being picked up. You can do that with the halo menu. When the game is accidentally attached to the mouse it can be quite confusing and make gameplay no fun. Thanks! We will update the games a bit at a time.
By the way we released a new game. This time it is Funtowers, a game in which the player has to combine related cards in a given time. Try it out, you can download it here: http://www.swa.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/projects/olpc/
Have fun! Robert
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On Jan 24, 2008, at 13:57 , Robert Krahn wrote:
Am Jan 12, 2008 um 12:59 PM schrieb Karl:
Hi, thanks for great games :-) I have one suggestion: make the games resist being picked up. You can do that with the halo menu. When the game is accidentally attached to the mouse it can be quite confusing and make gameplay no fun.
Thanks! We will update the games a bit at a time.
By the way we released a new game. This time it is Funtowers, a game in which the player has to combine related cards in a given time. Try it out, you can download it here: http://www.swa.hpi.uni- potsdam.de/projects/olpc/
How about making an activity from each of your projects?
- Bert -
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
By the way we released a new game. This time it is Funtowers, a game in which the player has to combine related cards in a given time. Try it out, you can download it here: http://www.swa.hpi.uni- potsdam.de/projects/olpc/
How about making an activity from each of your projects?
Trying to sell your pr2xo script ;-)
On Jan 24, 2008, at 15:30 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
By the way we released a new game. This time it is Funtowers, a game in which the player has to combine related cards in a given time. Try it out, you can download it here: http://www.swa.hpi.uni- potsdam.de/projects/olpc/
How about making an activity from each of your projects?
Trying to sell your pr2xo script ;-)
Sure :) You might want to patch in a new icon afterwards etc., but to get started it is nice. Also if you have an activity you can put it at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities
where it gets much more visibility and is available from xo-get:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Xo-get
- Bert -
Btw Bert, can you recall us of to save as an .xo file. I don't find it.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
On Jan 24, 2008, at 15:30 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
By the way we released a new game. This time it is Funtowers, a game in which the player has to combine related cards in a given time. Try it out, you can download it here: http://www.swa.hpi.uni- potsdam.de/projects/olpc/
How about making an activity from each of your projects?
Trying to sell your pr2xo script ;-)
Sure :) You might want to patch in a new icon afterwards etc., but to get started it is nice. Also if you have an activity you can put it at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activitieswhere it gets much more visibility and is available from xo-get:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Xo-get
- Bert -
As I wrote a few days ago:
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2008-January/001841.html
In the mean time I patched it to make a .xo bundle compatible with more builds. So load updates first.
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 17:41 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Btw Bert, can you recall us of to save as an .xo file. I don't find it.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
On Jan 24, 2008, at 15:30 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
By the way we released a new game. This time it is Funtowers, a game in which the player has to combine related cards in a given time. Try it out, you can download it here: http:// www.swa.hpi.uni- potsdam.de/projects/olpc/
How about making an activity from each of your projects?
Trying to sell your pr2xo script ;-)
Sure :) You might want to patch in a new icon afterwards etc., but to get started it is nice. Also if you have an activity you can put it at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activitieswhere it gets much more visibility and is available from xo-get:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Xo-get
- Bert -
-- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]
Sorry, it was not obvious to me it was in the etoys image, I was looking for a script :)
I have set a DrGeo bundle there http://squeak.ofset.org/drgeo/DrGeoII-3.xo The machine is at my office, I will test it tomorrow.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
As I wrote a few days ago:
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2008-January/001841.html
In the mean time I patched it to make a .xo bundle compatible with more builds. So load updates first.
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 17:41 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Btw Bert, can you recall us of to save as an .xo file. I don't find it.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
On Jan 24, 2008, at 15:30 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
By the way we released a new game. This time it is Funtowers, a game in which the player has to combine related cards in a given time. Try it out, you can download it here: http:// www.swa.hpi.uni- potsdam.de/projects/olpc/
How about making an activity from each of your projects?
Trying to sell your pr2xo script ;-)
Sure :) You might want to patch in a new icon afterwards etc., but to get started it is nice. Also if you have an activity you can put it at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activitieswhere it gets much more visibility and is available from xo-get:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Xo-get
- Bert -
-- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]
That worked. There is a long pause in the middle of loading the project (presumably where it is compiling all the code). But still nice :)
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 22:45 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Sorry, it was not obvious to me it was in the etoys image, I was looking for a script :)
I have set a DrGeo bundle there http://squeak.ofset.org/drgeo/ DrGeoII-3.xo The machine is at my office, I will test it tomorrow.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
As I wrote a few days ago:
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2008-January/001841.html
In the mean time I patched it to make a .xo bundle compatible with more builds. So load updates first.
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 17:41 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Btw Bert, can you recall us of to save as an .xo file. I don't find it.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
On Jan 24, 2008, at 15:30 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
> By the way we released a new game. This time it is Funtowers, a > game in which the player has to combine related cards in a given > time. Try it out, you can download it here: http:// > www.swa.hpi.uni- > potsdam.de/projects/olpc/
How about making an activity from each of your projects?
Trying to sell your pr2xo script ;-)
Sure :) You might want to patch in a new icon afterwards etc., but to get started it is nice. Also if you have an activity you can put it at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activitieswhere it gets much more visibility and is available from xo-get:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Xo-get
- Bert -
-- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]
-- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]
Cool!!! Maybe post it on the Activities page in the wiki as a replacement for the .sar file?
-walter
On Jan 24, 2008 5:50 PM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
That worked. There is a long pause in the middle of loading the project (presumably where it is compiling all the code). But still nice :)
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 22:45 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Sorry, it was not obvious to me it was in the etoys image, I was looking for a script :)
I have set a DrGeo bundle there http://squeak.ofset.org/drgeo/ DrGeoII-3.xo The machine is at my office, I will test it tomorrow.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
As I wrote a few days ago:
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2008-January/001841.html
In the mean time I patched it to make a .xo bundle compatible with more builds. So load updates first.
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 17:41 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Btw Bert, can you recall us of to save as an .xo file. I don't find it.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
On Jan 24, 2008, at 15:30 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
>> By the way we released a new game. This time it is Funtowers, a >> game in which the player has to combine related cards in a given >> time. Try it out, you can download it here: http:// >> www.swa.hpi.uni- >> potsdam.de/projects/olpc/ > > How about making an activity from each of your projects?
Trying to sell your pr2xo script ;-)
Sure :) You might want to patch in a new icon afterwards etc., but to get started it is nice. Also if you have an activity you can put it at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activitieswhere it gets much more visibility and is available from xo-get:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Xo-get
- Bert -
-- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]
-- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]
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Hi, Bert
Translations have been populated for DrGeoII and original SAR version includes POs. Please consider http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5546 and generate launcher script by your packager with specifying MO location, so that DrGeoII.xo can be translated? I have already experimented it, but it needs both stuff to be used widely. Let me know if it needs improvement...
Cheers, /Korakurider
On Jan 25, 2008 7:50 AM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
That worked. There is a long pause in the middle of loading the project (presumably where it is compiling all the code). But still nice :)
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 22:45 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Sorry, it was not obvious to me it was in the etoys image, I was looking for a script :)
I have set a DrGeo bundle there http://squeak.ofset.org/drgeo/ DrGeoII-3.xo The machine is at my office, I will test it tomorrow.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
As I wrote a few days ago:
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2008-January/001841.html
In the mean time I patched it to make a .xo bundle compatible with more builds. So load updates first.
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 17:41 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Btw Bert, can you recall us of to save as an .xo file. I don't find it.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
On Jan 24, 2008, at 15:30 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
>> By the way we released a new game. This time it is Funtowers, a >> game in which the player has to combine related cards in a given >> time. Try it out, you can download it here: http:// >> www.swa.hpi.uni- >> potsdam.de/projects/olpc/ > > How about making an activity from each of your projects?
Trying to sell your pr2xo script ;-)
Sure :) You might want to patch in a new icon afterwards etc., but to get started it is nice. Also if you have an activity you can put it at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activitieswhere it gets much more visibility and is available from xo-get:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Xo-get
- Bert -
-- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]
-- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]
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Strangely the .xo file type is not reconignised by the browser... I don't see how a kid is supposed to easily install XO package. (my OLPC is with the last stable firmware and image). I do not talk about going in the terminal and wget ...
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
That worked. There is a long pause in the middle of loading the project (presumably where it is compiling all the code). But still nice :)
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 22:45 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Sorry, it was not obvious to me it was in the etoys image, I was looking for a script :)
I have set a DrGeo bundle there http://squeak.ofset.org/drgeo/ DrGeoII-3.xo The machine is at my office, I will test it tomorrow.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
As I wrote a few days ago:
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2008-January/001841.html
In the mean time I patched it to make a .xo bundle compatible with more builds. So load updates first.
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 17:41 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Btw Bert, can you recall us of to save as an .xo file. I don't find it.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
On Jan 24, 2008, at 15:30 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
>> By the way we released a new game. This time it is Funtowers, a >> game in which the player has to combine related cards in a given >> time. Try it out, you can download it here: http:// >> www.swa.hpi.uni- >> potsdam.de/projects/olpc/ > > How about making an activity from each of your projects?
Trying to sell your pr2xo script ;-)
Sure :) You might want to patch in a new icon afterwards etc., but to get started it is nice. Also if you have an activity you can put it at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activitieswhere it gets much more visibility and is available from xo-get:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Xo-get
- Bert -
-- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]
-- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]
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Hi, Hilaire, If you are placing .xo on your local server, how about mime settings on web server? see http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5604 and http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6033
Does downloading .xo file attached to mail message in gmail activity (also using browser) work for you?
Cheers, /Korakurider
On 1/25/08, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire@ofset.org wrote:
Strangely the .xo file type is not reconignised by the browser... I don't see how a kid is supposed to easily install XO package. (my OLPC is with the last stable firmware and image). I do not talk about going in the terminal and wget ...
Hilaire
<snip>
"The last stable build" is totally out of date. I used the latest update.1 build and clicking the .xo file in the browse activity worked fine there.
- Bert -
On Jan 25, 2008, at 9:16 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Strangely the .xo file type is not reconignised by the browser... I don't see how a kid is supposed to easily install XO package. (my OLPC is with the last stable firmware and image). I do not talk about going in the terminal and wget ...
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
That worked. There is a long pause in the middle of loading the project (presumably where it is compiling all the code). But still nice :)
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 22:45 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Sorry, it was not obvious to me it was in the etoys image, I was looking for a script :)
I have set a DrGeo bundle there http://squeak.ofset.org/drgeo/ DrGeoII-3.xo The machine is at my office, I will test it tomorrow.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
As I wrote a few days ago:
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2008-January/001841.html
In the mean time I patched it to make a .xo bundle compatible with more builds. So load updates first.
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 17:41 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Btw Bert, can you recall us of to save as an .xo file. I don't find it.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
On Jan 24, 2008, at 15:30 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
> 2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de: > >>> By the way we released a new game. This time it is >>> Funtowers, a >>> game in which the player has to combine related cards in a >>> given >>> time. Try it out, you can download it here: http:// >>> www.swa.hpi.uni- >>> potsdam.de/projects/olpc/ >> >> How about making an activity from each of your projects? > > Trying to sell your pr2xo script ;-)
Sure :) You might want to patch in a new icon afterwards etc., but to get started it is nice. Also if you have an activity you can put it at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activitieswhere it gets much more visibility and is available from xo-get:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Xo-get
- Bert -
Ah fine I will update to this version I will update the icon, it should be white on black
Loading/saving DrGeo project work from the XO, but slow, more than 1 min.
Btw, the geode seems fast enough to crunch compliacted figure with several hundreds of geometric object.
Hilaire
2008/1/25, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
"The last stable build" is totally out of date. I used the latest update.1 build and clicking the .xo file in the browse activity worked fine there.
- Bert -
On Jan 25, 2008, at 9:16 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Strangely the .xo file type is not reconignised by the browser... I don't see how a kid is supposed to easily install XO package. (my OLPC is with the last stable firmware and image). I do not talk about going in the terminal and wget ...
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
That worked. There is a long pause in the middle of loading the project (presumably where it is compiling all the code). But still nice :)
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 22:45 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Sorry, it was not obvious to me it was in the etoys image, I was looking for a script :)
I have set a DrGeo bundle there http://squeak.ofset.org/drgeo/ DrGeoII-3.xo The machine is at my office, I will test it tomorrow.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
As I wrote a few days ago:
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2008-January/001841.html
In the mean time I patched it to make a .xo bundle compatible with more builds. So load updates first.
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 17:41 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Btw Bert, can you recall us of to save as an .xo file. I don't find it.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de: > > On Jan 24, 2008, at 15:30 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > >> 2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de: >> >>>> By the way we released a new game. This time it is >>>> Funtowers, a >>>> game in which the player has to combine related cards in a >>>> given >>>> time. Try it out, you can download it here: http:// >>>> www.swa.hpi.uni- >>>> potsdam.de/projects/olpc/ >>> >>> How about making an activity from each of your projects? >> >> Trying to sell your pr2xo script ;-) > > > > Sure :) You might want to patch in a new icon afterwards etc., > but to > get started it is nice. Also if you have an activity you can put > it at > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities > > where it gets much more visibility and is available from xo-get: > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Xo-get > > - Bert - >
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The icon does not have to be white on black, but you have to use the fill_color and stroke_color entities to make it colorable by Sugar:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar_Icon_Format
- Bert -
On Jan 25, 2008, at 10:37 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Ah fine I will update to this version I will update the icon, it should be white on black
Loading/saving DrGeo project work from the XO, but slow, more than 1 min.
Btw, the geode seems fast enough to crunch compliacted figure with several hundreds of geometric object.
Hilaire
2008/1/25, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
"The last stable build" is totally out of date. I used the latest update.1 build and clicking the .xo file in the browse activity worked fine there.
- Bert -
On Jan 25, 2008, at 9:16 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Strangely the .xo file type is not reconignised by the browser... I don't see how a kid is supposed to easily install XO package. (my OLPC is with the last stable firmware and image). I do not talk about going in the terminal and wget ...
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
That worked. There is a long pause in the middle of loading the project (presumably where it is compiling all the code). But still nice :)
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 22:45 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Sorry, it was not obvious to me it was in the etoys image, I was looking for a script :)
I have set a DrGeo bundle there http://squeak.ofset.org/drgeo/ DrGeoII-3.xo The machine is at my office, I will test it tomorrow.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
As I wrote a few days ago:
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2008-January/001841.html
In the mean time I patched it to make a .xo bundle compatible with more builds. So load updates first.
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 17:41 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
> Btw Bert, can you recall us of to save as an .xo file. I don't > find > it. > > Hilaire > > 2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de: >> >> On Jan 24, 2008, at 15:30 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >> >>> 2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de: >>> >>>>> By the way we released a new game. This time it is >>>>> Funtowers, a >>>>> game in which the player has to combine related cards in a >>>>> given >>>>> time. Try it out, you can download it here: http:// >>>>> www.swa.hpi.uni- >>>>> potsdam.de/projects/olpc/ >>>> >>>> How about making an activity from each of your projects? >>> >>> Trying to sell your pr2xo script ;-) >> >> >> >> Sure :) You might want to patch in a new icon afterwards etc., >> but to >> get started it is nice. Also if you have an activity you can >> put >> it at >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities >> >> where it gets much more visibility and is available from xo- >> get: >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Xo-get >> >> - Bert - >>
2008/1/25, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire@ofset.org:
Ah fine I will update to this version I will update the icon, it should be white on black
Ok, I will update later. I really don't have time to browse tens of page to see which version is latest, etc...
Thanks for the tips on icon. I did not find it.
Hilaire
Loading/saving DrGeo project work from the XO, but slow, more than 1 min.
Btw, the geode seems fast enough to crunch compliacted figure with several hundreds of geometric object.
Hilaire
2008/1/25, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
"The last stable build" is totally out of date. I used the latest update.1 build and clicking the .xo file in the browse activity worked fine there.
- Bert -
On Jan 25, 2008, at 9:16 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Strangely the .xo file type is not reconignised by the browser... I don't see how a kid is supposed to easily install XO package. (my OLPC is with the last stable firmware and image). I do not talk about going in the terminal and wget ...
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
That worked. There is a long pause in the middle of loading the project (presumably where it is compiling all the code). But still nice :)
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 22:45 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Sorry, it was not obvious to me it was in the etoys image, I was looking for a script :)
I have set a DrGeo bundle there http://squeak.ofset.org/drgeo/ DrGeoII-3.xo The machine is at my office, I will test it tomorrow.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
As I wrote a few days ago:
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2008-January/001841.html
In the mean time I patched it to make a .xo bundle compatible with more builds. So load updates first.
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 17:41 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
> Btw Bert, can you recall us of to save as an .xo file. I don't > find > it. > > Hilaire > > 2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de: >> >> On Jan 24, 2008, at 15:30 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >> >>> 2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de: >>> >>>>> By the way we released a new game. This time it is >>>>> Funtowers, a >>>>> game in which the player has to combine related cards in a >>>>> given >>>>> time. Try it out, you can download it here: http:// >>>>> www.swa.hpi.uni- >>>>> potsdam.de/projects/olpc/ >>>> >>>> How about making an activity from each of your projects? >>> >>> Trying to sell your pr2xo script ;-) >> >> >> >> Sure :) You might want to patch in a new icon afterwards etc., >> but to >> get started it is nice. Also if you have an activity you can put >> it at >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities >> >> where it gets much more visibility and is available from xo-get: >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Xo-get >> >> - Bert - >>
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We'll have to think about saving and loading. Currently when resuming a saved DrGeo drawing, it will load both the original DrGeo project and the saved one ... I also got a syntax error when resuming a saved project.
I think we need a better theory separating the "base app" (the code that gets loaded) and the current project. Perhaps the .xo should contain both a .st for the code and a .pr for the initial project ... that would mean when saving the project it would not have to save out the code. On loading we would have to distinguish between resuming an old project and starting a new activity instance, loading either the project in the bundle or the one from the datastore. For that I think we would have to pass the bundled project via the "URI" parameter, and it would get ignored if an OBJECT_ID is present.
Does anybody understand what I'm talking about? ;)
- Bert -
On Jan 25, 2008, at 11:04 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
2008/1/25, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire@ofset.org:
Ah fine I will update to this version I will update the icon, it should be white on black
Ok, I will update later. I really don't have time to browse tens of page to see which version is latest, etc...
Thanks for the tips on icon. I did not find it.
Hilaire
Loading/saving DrGeo project work from the XO, but slow, more than 1 min.
Btw, the geode seems fast enough to crunch compliacted figure with several hundreds of geometric object.
Hilaire
2008/1/25, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
"The last stable build" is totally out of date. I used the latest update.1 build and clicking the .xo file in the browse activity worked fine there.
- Bert -
On Jan 25, 2008, at 9:16 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Strangely the .xo file type is not reconignised by the browser... I don't see how a kid is supposed to easily install XO package. (my OLPC is with the last stable firmware and image). I do not talk about going in the terminal and wget ...
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
That worked. There is a long pause in the middle of loading the project (presumably where it is compiling all the code). But still nice :)
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 22:45 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Sorry, it was not obvious to me it was in the etoys image, I was looking for a script :)
I have set a DrGeo bundle there http://squeak.ofset.org/drgeo/ DrGeoII-3.xo The machine is at my office, I will test it tomorrow.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de: > As I wrote a few days ago: > > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2008-January/001841.html > > In the mean time I patched it to make a .xo bundle compatible > with > more builds. So load updates first. > > - Bert - > > On Jan 24, 2008, at 17:41 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > >> Btw Bert, can you recall us of to save as an .xo file. I don't >> find >> it. >> >> Hilaire >> >> 2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de: >>> >>> On Jan 24, 2008, at 15:30 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >>> >>>> 2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de: >>>> >>>>>> By the way we released a new game. This time it is >>>>>> Funtowers, a >>>>>> game in which the player has to combine related cards in a >>>>>> given >>>>>> time. Try it out, you can download it here: http:// >>>>>> www.swa.hpi.uni- >>>>>> potsdam.de/projects/olpc/ >>>>> >>>>> How about making an activity from each of your projects? >>>> >>>> Trying to sell your pr2xo script ;-) >>> >>> >>> >>> Sure :) You might want to patch in a new icon afterwards etc., >>> but to >>> get started it is nice. Also if you have an activity you >>> can put >>> it at >>> >>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities >>> >>> where it gets much more visibility and is available from xo- >>> get: >>> >>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Xo-get >>> >>> - Bert - >>>
2008/1/25, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
We'll have to think about saving and loading. Currently when resuming a saved DrGeo drawing, it will load both the original DrGeo project and the saved one ... I also got a syntax error when resuming a saved project.
In that case this means two time slower. I did not feel the loading time was slower than usual. Are you sure ?
On Jan 25, 2008 8:00 PM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
Does anybody understand what I'm talking about? ;)
I am trying...
I think we need a better theory separating the "base app" (the code that gets loaded) and the current project. Perhaps the .xo should contain both a .st for the code and a .pr for the initial project ... that would mean when saving the project it would not have to save out the code. On loading we would have to distinguish between resuming an old project and starting a new activity instance, loading either the project in the bundle or the one from the datastore. For that I think we would have to pass the bundled project via the "URI" parameter, and it would get ignored if an OBJECT_ID is present.
And we need to modify semantics of "--document" parameter or invent new one so that *.st will be preloaded, right? tricky anyway...
Cheers, /Korakurider
On Jan 25, 2008, at 12:36 , Korakurider wrote:
On Jan 25, 2008 8:00 PM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
Does anybody understand what I'm talking about? ;)
I am trying...I think we need a better theory separating the "base app" (the code that gets loaded) and the current project. Perhaps the .xo should contain both a .st for the code and a .pr for the initial project ... that would mean when saving the project it would not have to save out the code. On loading we would have to distinguish between resuming an old project and starting a new activity instance, loading either the project in the bundle or the one from the datastore. For that I think we would have to pass the bundled project via the "URI" parameter, and it would get ignored if an OBJECT_ID is present.
And we need to modify semantics of "--document" parameter orinvent new one so that *.st will be preloaded, right? tricky anyway...
Well, --document gets loaded by ProjectLauncher, whereas URI is loaded by SugarLauncher (both are active in the etoys image). So if we can assure that AutoStart processes ProjectLauncher before SugarLauncher, this should work. But adding yet another parameter for "preloading" might be cleaner.
- Bert -
On Jan 25, 2008 8:00 PM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
I think we need a better theory separating the "base app" (the code that gets loaded) and the current project. Perhaps the .xo should contain both a .st for the code and a .pr for the initial project ... that would mean when saving the project it would not have to save out the code. On loading we would have to distinguish between resuming an old project and starting a new activity instance, loading either the project in the bundle or the one from the datastore. For that I think we would have to pass the bundled project via the "URI" parameter, and it would get ignored if an OBJECT_ID is present.
I am curious how we will be able to keep project interoperability especially for DrGeoII between OLPC Etoys and Squeakland OLPC if we separate them.
And by separating, also dependency would be introduced. Then we might want to manage it wisely. For instances: + add dependency description to manifest in gzipped .pr so that user can review it when encounter problem. + newer "base app" could check dependency hint embedded in project and migrate the project if it is based on older app.
Cheers, /Korakurider
On Jan 25, 2008, at 16:11 , Korakurider wrote:
On Jan 25, 2008 8:00 PM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
I think we need a better theory separating the "base app" (the code that gets loaded) and the current project. Perhaps the .xo should contain both a .st for the code and a .pr for the initial project ... that would mean when saving the project it would not have to save out the code. On loading we would have to distinguish between resuming an old project and starting a new activity instance, loading either the project in the bundle or the one from the datastore. For that I think we would have to pass the bundled project via the "URI" parameter, and it would get ignored if an OBJECT_ID is present.
I am curious how we will be able to keep project interoperability especially for DrGeoII between OLPC Etoys and Squeakland OLPC if we separate them.
And by separating, also dependency would be introduced. Then we might want to manage it wisely. For instances:
- add dependency description to manifest in gzipped .pr so that user
can review it when encounter problem.
- newer "base app" could check dependency hint embedded in project and
migrate the project if it is based on older app.
As far as I know, DrGeo is normally used with a custom image - right, Hilaire? The project simply assumes the .SAR with the DrGeo code has been loaded already. So the situation would not be too different.
- Bert -
Frankly, I mostly dropped DrGeo until I got manifestion of interest from several places and I never distribute it in image, only for my own experiment in high school. It is José who did the SAR file packed with the .po files. But soon, I will do a distribution image based, I will have to use the etoys if I want the languages. BTW, are you planing for a new squeakland image, OLPC Etoys based, it will make life easier for that later plan?
Hilaire
2008/1/25, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
On Jan 25, 2008, at 16:11 , Korakurider wrote:
On Jan 25, 2008 8:00 PM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
I think we need a better theory separating the "base app" (the code that gets loaded) and the current project. Perhaps the .xo should contain both a .st for the code and a .pr for the initial project ... that would mean when saving the project it would not have to save out the code. On loading we would have to distinguish between resuming an old project and starting a new activity instance, loading either the project in the bundle or the one from the datastore. For that I think we would have to pass the bundled project via the "URI" parameter, and it would get ignored if an OBJECT_ID is present.
I am curious how we will be able to keep project interoperability especially for DrGeoII between OLPC Etoys and Squeakland OLPC if we separate them.
And by separating, also dependency would be introduced. Then we might want to manage it wisely. For instances:
- add dependency description to manifest in gzipped .pr so that user
can review it when encounter problem.
- newer "base app" could check dependency hint embedded in project and
migrate the project if it is based on older app.
As far as I know, DrGeo is normally used with a custom image - right, Hilaire? The project simply assumes the .SAR with the DrGeo code has been loaded already. So the situation would not be too different.
- Bert -
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On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 09:16 +0100, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Strangely the .xo file type is not reconignised by the browser...
You need to correctly define the mime-type in the web server, at least until Firefox does guessing in the browser (maybe someday...).
Our web server at OLPC is set up this way.
Then the package should install smoothly. - Jim
I don't see how a kid is supposed to easily install XO package. (my OLPC is with the last stable firmware and image). I do not talk about going in the terminal and wget ...
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
That worked. There is a long pause in the middle of loading the project (presumably where it is compiling all the code). But still nice :)
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 22:45 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Sorry, it was not obvious to me it was in the etoys image, I was looking for a script :)
I have set a DrGeo bundle there http://squeak.ofset.org/drgeo/ DrGeoII-3.xo The machine is at my office, I will test it tomorrow.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
As I wrote a few days ago:
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2008-January/001841.html
In the mean time I patched it to make a .xo bundle compatible with more builds. So load updates first.
- Bert -
On Jan 24, 2008, at 17:41 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Btw Bert, can you recall us of to save as an .xo file. I don't find it.
Hilaire
2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de:
On Jan 24, 2008, at 15:30 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
> 2008/1/24, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de: > >>> By the way we released a new game. This time it is Funtowers, a >>> game in which the player has to combine related cards in a given >>> time. Try it out, you can download it here: http:// >>> www.swa.hpi.uni- >>> potsdam.de/projects/olpc/ >> >> How about making an activity from each of your projects? > > Trying to sell your pr2xo script ;-)
Sure :) You might want to patch in a new icon afterwards etc., but to get started it is nice. Also if you have an activity you can put it at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activitieswhere it gets much more visibility and is available from xo-get:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Xo-get
- Bert -
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2008/1/27, Jim Gettys jg@laptop.org:
On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 09:16 +0100, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Strangely the .xo file type is not reconignised by the browser...
You need to correctly define the mime-type in the web server, at least until Firefox does guessing in the browser (maybe someday...).
Our web server at OLPC is set up this way.
Then the package should install smoothly. - Jim
I got the problem when installing Activities from OLPC wiki, I can't tell if the cause is the same, I only tried on one activities. However after update to update.1, installing .xo archive from browse worked from my web server unaware of xo mime type.
Hilaire Hilaire
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