Gary,
Ok, the place to start is for me to double check my preferences. More to come. Thanks!
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
gazzaguru2@btinternet.com 02/04/08 6:01 AM >>>
Odd, I get the expected behaviour (with mouseClickForKeyboardFocus enabled and mouseOverForKeyboardFocus disabled).
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Bill Schwab Sent: 03 February 2008 12:32 AM To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: RE: [UI] Mouse wheel
Gary,
I saw 285 and loaded that and fiddled around slightly. I made a point of using the wheel to scroll panes in inactive windows interspersed
with
typing in the active window, and that seems to work except when the scrolling list is part of the active window. With the other traffic,
I
suspect that a change to regain keyboard selection in the lists is
being
enabled on mouse over (if only in/under the active windows) vs. after transfer of focus. I see where you are going, but it essentially
brings
back the "lists grab the focus" problem.
IMHO, if a user wants to simply point at a list and have it grab the focus for keyboard navigation, they should use a policy that changes focus on mouse-over. As a click/tab to change focus type, I want the focus to be independent of the mouse movement, and will click/tab to a list that I want to navigate by keyboard. Hopefully it will suffice
to
limit the navigation to the list with the focus. Reasonable?
As always, thanks for working on this!!!
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
gazzaguru2@btinternet.com 01/28/08 11:42 AM >>>
Load Pinesoft-Widgets-gvc.284 from SqueakSource and enjoy! Was tricky to figure out but done nicely, I think. If the VMs get arround to generating mouse wheel events natively (rrather than simulating with a keystroke) it is a small matter to support that when/if that happens.
Will await feedback before updating the Universe.
Regards, Gary.
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Bill
Schwab
Sent: 22 January 2008 3:21 AM To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [UI] Mouse wheel
Gary,
It is not terribly high on my priority list, but the more I work
with
Squeak, the more I notice that the way other apps handle the wheel
makes
a LOT of sense. Given a choice, I would opt for solid keyboard
focus
every time.
Thanks!
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
gazzaguru2@btinternet.com 01/21/08 6:27 PM >>>
I've looked at that, would be nice! Unfortunately, in Squeak, the
mouse
wheel is simulated as keyboard events. It would require some hacking
to
pick these up and send to the mouse focus instead. If there is sufficient interest I'll take a stab at it.
Thanks. Gary.
----- Original message ----- From: Bill Schwab BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Sent: Mon, 21 Jan 2008, 20:45:13 GMT Subject: [UI] Mouse wheel Gary,
I hope this is not a repeat, or worse yet reflective of my not
having
installed a new enough release, but _almost_ as much as I think
keyboard
focus should be managed very carefully and independent of the mouse cursor location, I think the mouse wheel input should follow the
mouse
cursor, even so far as scrolling panes that are not active, and not
even
part of the active shell. First, I just noticed Ubuntu, its
graphical
terminal, and OpenOffice do this to good effect (as just one
example);
second, if I am typing, mouse movement is probably made to avoid
visual
distraction from the cursor, if I am turning the mouse wheel, it is almost certainly a deliberate action associated with the cursor location. Fair?
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
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