Gary,
Thanks for the insights. Please do not go to any great lengths on my behalf; if you think the button should remain on the left, I can live with that, especially if you are doing it to ease the transition for other users.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
gazzaguru2@btinternet.com 10/01/07 6:26 AM >>>
I could make the title button order available as a preference... For now you'd need to subclass the UIThemeSoftSqueak and override #configureWindowLabelAreaFor: with the version for Vistary. Your new theme subclass will appear in the preferences (you should also override #themeName on the class side).
As for the legibility of button text with Vistary, I find it alright when using a FreeType font...
As for corner handles, they were a bugger to fix to work properly! I'd prefer the old border/side behaviour with no handles as such. I could make this an option if there's sufficient interest.
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Bill Schwab Sent: 29 September 2007 3:23 pm To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [UI] Fwd: Workspace backgrounds - almost there
I knew I missed a question in my global reply - the corner handles. They do not particularly bother me (I almost like them actually), but if they go away, I won't scream about it. Now that you mention it, you're right, they are ugly ;)
Gary, something I just noticed is that the soft squeak theme leaves the [x] button on the left of the title bar. I _think_ I would move it to he right. That said, I gladly defer to you judgement. BTW, I continue to be impressed with your work. For reasons unknown, I switched back to the Vistary theme and noted that you obviously can move the close button; at first, I assumed you simply didn't mess with the locations. I would use the Vistary theme, but I find the buttons difficult to read due to the lens effect, or more to the point, its location. Of course, that is largely a result of what you set out to emulate. I can envision writing a hybrid theme that has lens effects near rectangle bounds, but that can wait.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
asqueaker@gmail.com 09/27/07 10:10 PM >>>
Looks real good Bill! I especially like highlighting the items in Lists the same as text highlighted in a text pane; a big improvement over the red-on-gray list selections of past.
Do you have a mind to ditch the corner handles? Aren't they ugly? Not to mention redundant with the changing of the mouse-pointer. I've also noticed (in 3.9 images) they creep out of their bounds under certain circumstances like too small a window-title font, or maybe square window corners too..
On 9/27/07, Bill Schwab BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu wrote:
This should do it:
http://needle.anest.ufl.edu/users/wschwab/UI-almost.png
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
Bill Schwab 9/25/2007 11:16:34 PM >>>
I did some fiddling to try to reproduce the installation problems I had, added a reminder about the Damien's dev image to the UI swiki
page,
downloaded it, and did an installation of Gary's widgets using Monitcello. Then I moved my BibTeX helper code into the
new image. I
appear to have made a happy mistake in the latter,
capturing a change
that I considered redundant, and ended up with more or less
the visual
changes I was trying to create, and grabbed a screenshot
before I had
time to break it :)
I will probably send it to Gary as a start. What is the
proper way to
make it available? I suppose the easiest thing is to put
it on my web
page, but I have not yet learned how to use Linux to remotely access
our
servers, so I can't do that right now.
When it becomes available, you will notice the background
color of the
browser's and debugger's code pane. I would hope for the
debugger's
inspector panes to be so colored also, though they
currently show it
only for the top line. Ironically, the workspace in the
image is not
correctly colored, though a newly-created instance has the correct color, though, as in the debugger's inspectors, it shows the color
only
to a point, after which the default white takes over.
Again, this is not a super big deal, but I find that
similar changes
that OA made to Dolphin long ago grew on me.
Bill
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