I knew I missed a question in my global reply - the corner handles. They do not particularly bother me (I almost like them actually), but if they go away, I won't scream about it. Now that you mention it, you're right, they are ugly ;)
Gary, something I just noticed is that the soft squeak theme leaves the [x] button on the left of the title bar. I _think_ I would move it to he right. That said, I gladly defer to you judgement. BTW, I continue to be impressed with your work. For reasons unknown, I switched back to the Vistary theme and noted that you obviously can move the close button; at first, I assumed you simply didn't mess with the locations. I would use the Vistary theme, but I find the buttons difficult to read due to the lens effect, or more to the point, its location. Of course, that is largely a result of what you set out to emulate. I can envision writing a hybrid theme that has lens effects near rectangle bounds, but that can wait.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
asqueaker@gmail.com 09/27/07 10:10 PM >>>
Looks real good Bill! I especially like highlighting the items in Lists the same as text highlighted in a text pane; a big improvement over the red-on-gray list selections of past.
Do you have a mind to ditch the corner handles? Aren't they ugly? Not to mention redundant with the changing of the mouse-pointer. I've also noticed (in 3.9 images) they creep out of their bounds under certain circumstances like too small a window-title font, or maybe square window corners too..
On 9/27/07, Bill Schwab BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu wrote:
This should do it:
http://needle.anest.ufl.edu/users/wschwab/UI-almost.png
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
Bill Schwab 9/25/2007 11:16:34 PM >>>
I did some fiddling to try to reproduce the installation problems I had, added a reminder about the Damien's dev image to the UI swiki
page,
downloaded it, and did an installation of Gary's widgets using Monitcello. Then I moved my BibTeX helper code into the new image. I appear to have made a happy mistake in the latter, capturing a change that I considered redundant, and ended up with more or less the visual changes I was trying to create, and grabbed a screenshot before I had time to break it :)
I will probably send it to Gary as a start. What is the proper way to make it available? I suppose the easiest thing is to put it on my web page, but I have not yet learned how to use Linux to remotely access
our
servers, so I can't do that right now.
When it becomes available, you will notice the background color of the browser's and debugger's code pane. I would hope for the debugger's inspector panes to be so colored also, though they currently show it only for the top line. Ironically, the workspace in the image is not correctly colored, though a newly-created instance has the correct color, though, as in the debugger's inspectors, it shows the color
only
to a point, after which the default white takes over.
Again, this is not a super big deal, but I find that similar changes that OA made to Dolphin long ago grew on me.
Bill
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I could make the title button order available as a preference... For now you'd need to subclass the UIThemeSoftSqueak and override #configureWindowLabelAreaFor: with the version for Vistary. Your new theme subclass will appear in the preferences (you should also override #themeName on the class side).
As for the legibility of button text with Vistary, I find it alright when using a FreeType font...
As for corner handles, they were a bugger to fix to work properly! I'd prefer the old border/side behaviour with no handles as such. I could make this an option if there's sufficient interest.
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Bill Schwab Sent: 29 September 2007 3:23 pm To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [UI] Fwd: Workspace backgrounds - almost there
I knew I missed a question in my global reply - the corner handles. They do not particularly bother me (I almost like them actually), but if they go away, I won't scream about it. Now that you mention it, you're right, they are ugly ;)
Gary, something I just noticed is that the soft squeak theme leaves the [x] button on the left of the title bar. I _think_ I would move it to he right. That said, I gladly defer to you judgement. BTW, I continue to be impressed with your work. For reasons unknown, I switched back to the Vistary theme and noted that you obviously can move the close button; at first, I assumed you simply didn't mess with the locations. I would use the Vistary theme, but I find the buttons difficult to read due to the lens effect, or more to the point, its location. Of course, that is largely a result of what you set out to emulate. I can envision writing a hybrid theme that has lens effects near rectangle bounds, but that can wait.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
asqueaker@gmail.com 09/27/07 10:10 PM >>>
Looks real good Bill! I especially like highlighting the items in Lists the same as text highlighted in a text pane; a big improvement over the red-on-gray list selections of past.
Do you have a mind to ditch the corner handles? Aren't they ugly? Not to mention redundant with the changing of the mouse-pointer. I've also noticed (in 3.9 images) they creep out of their bounds under certain circumstances like too small a window-title font, or maybe square window corners too..
On 9/27/07, Bill Schwab BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu wrote:
This should do it:
http://needle.anest.ufl.edu/users/wschwab/UI-almost.png
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
Bill Schwab 9/25/2007 11:16:34 PM >>>
I did some fiddling to try to reproduce the installation problems I had, added a reminder about the Damien's dev image to the UI swiki
page,
downloaded it, and did an installation of Gary's widgets using Monitcello. Then I moved my BibTeX helper code into the
new image. I
appear to have made a happy mistake in the latter,
capturing a change
that I considered redundant, and ended up with more or less
the visual
changes I was trying to create, and grabbed a screenshot
before I had
time to break it :)
I will probably send it to Gary as a start. What is the
proper way to
make it available? I suppose the easiest thing is to put
it on my web
page, but I have not yet learned how to use Linux to remotely access
our
servers, so I can't do that right now.
When it becomes available, you will notice the background
color of the
browser's and debugger's code pane. I would hope for the
debugger's
inspector panes to be so colored also, though they
currently show it
only for the top line. Ironically, the workspace in the
image is not
correctly colored, though a newly-created instance has the correct color, though, as in the debugger's inspectors, it shows the color
only
to a point, after which the default white takes over.
Again, this is not a super big deal, but I find that
similar changes
that OA made to Dolphin long ago grew on me.
Bill
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The corner handles are inconvenient also when I do #renderOn: a SVG+xhtml canvas. Sometimes they seem to be one off (hard to predict/reproduce) and the implementation (rescue the old bits...) is/does, hrm, does not give you a good time when *not* rendering on a graphics card.
I have no suggestion for what/how to do better with them, just my CHF 0.05.
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:26:33 +0200, Gary Chambers wrote:
I could make the title button order available as a preference... For now you'd need to subclass the UIThemeSoftSqueak and override #configureWindowLabelAreaFor: with the version for Vistary. Your new theme subclass will appear in the preferences (you should also override #themeName on the class side).
As for the legibility of button text with Vistary, I find it alright when using a FreeType font...
As for corner handles, they were a bugger to fix to work properly! I'd prefer the old border/side behaviour with no handles as such. I could make this an option if there's sufficient interest.
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Bill Schwab Sent: 29 September 2007 3:23 pm To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [UI] Fwd: Workspace backgrounds - almost there
I knew I missed a question in my global reply - the corner handles. They do not particularly bother me (I almost like them actually), but if they go away, I won't scream about it. Now that you mention it, you're right, they are ugly ;)
Gary, something I just noticed is that the soft squeak theme leaves the [x] button on the left of the title bar. I _think_ I would move it to he right. That said, I gladly defer to you judgement. BTW, I continue to be impressed with your work. For reasons unknown, I switched back to the Vistary theme and noted that you obviously can move the close button; at first, I assumed you simply didn't mess with the locations. I would use the Vistary theme, but I find the buttons difficult to read due to the lens effect, or more to the point, its location. Of course, that is largely a result of what you set out to emulate. I can envision writing a hybrid theme that has lens effects near rectangle bounds, but that can wait.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
asqueaker@gmail.com 09/27/07 10:10 PM >>>
Looks real good Bill! I especially like highlighting the items in Lists the same as text highlighted in a text pane; a big improvement over the red-on-gray list selections of past.
Do you have a mind to ditch the corner handles? Aren't they ugly? Not to mention redundant with the changing of the mouse-pointer. I've also noticed (in 3.9 images) they creep out of their bounds under certain circumstances like too small a window-title font, or maybe square window corners too..
On 9/27/07, Bill Schwab BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu wrote:
This should do it:
http://needle.anest.ufl.edu/users/wschwab/UI-almost.png
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
Bill Schwab 9/25/2007 11:16:34 PM >>>
I did some fiddling to try to reproduce the installation problems I had, added a reminder about the Damien's dev image to the UI swiki
page,
downloaded it, and did an installation of Gary's widgets using Monitcello. Then I moved my BibTeX helper code into the
new image. I
appear to have made a happy mistake in the latter,
capturing a change
that I considered redundant, and ended up with more or less
the visual
changes I was trying to create, and grabbed a screenshot
before I had
time to break it :)
I will probably send it to Gary as a start. What is the
proper way to
make it available? I suppose the easiest thing is to put
it on my web
page, but I have not yet learned how to use Linux to remotely access
our
servers, so I can't do that right now.
When it becomes available, you will notice the background
color of the
browser's and debugger's code pane. I would hope for the
debugger's
inspector panes to be so colored also, though they
currently show it
only for the top line. Ironically, the workspace in the
image is not
correctly colored, though a newly-created instance has the correct color, though, as in the debugger's inspectors, it shows the color
only
to a point, after which the default white takes over.
Again, this is not a super big deal, but I find that
similar changes
that OA made to Dolphin long ago grew on me.
Bill
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Is that with or without the UI Enhancements loaded? I put a lot of effort into fixing the corner grip positions and using absolute coordinates, rather than deltas, so that the mouse cursor changes appropriately when resizing below the minimumExtent of a window (mouse no longer within the grip upon mouse release).
What does "rescue the old bits" mean?
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Klaus D. Witzel Sent: 01 October 2007 1:07 pm To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [UI] Re: Fwd: Workspace backgrounds - almost there
The corner handles are inconvenient also when I do #renderOn: a SVG+xhtml canvas. Sometimes they seem to be one off (hard to predict/reproduce) and the implementation (rescue the old bits...) is/does, hrm, does not give you a good time when *not* rendering on a graphics card.
I have no suggestion for what/how to do better with them, just my CHF 0.05.
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:26:33 +0200, Gary Chambers wrote:
I could make the title button order available as a
preference... For
now you'd need to subclass the UIThemeSoftSqueak and override #configureWindowLabelAreaFor: with the version for Vistary.
Your new
theme subclass will appear in the preferences (you should also override #themeName on the class side).
As for the legibility of button text with Vistary, I find
it alright
when using a FreeType font...
As for corner handles, they were a bugger to fix to work
properly! I'd
prefer the old border/side behaviour with no handles as
such. I could
make this an option if there's sufficient interest.
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Bill Schwab Sent: 29 September 2007 3:23 pm To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [UI] Fwd: Workspace backgrounds - almost there
I knew I missed a question in my global reply - the corner
handles.
They do not particularly bother me (I almost like them
actually), but
if they go away, I won't scream about it. Now that you
mention it,
you're right, they are ugly ;)
Gary, something I just noticed is that the soft squeak
theme leaves
the [x] button on the left of the title bar. I _think_ I
would move
it to he right. That said, I gladly defer to you
judgement. BTW, I
continue to be impressed with your work. For reasons unknown, I switched back to the Vistary theme and noted that you
obviously can
move the close button; at first, I assumed you simply didn't mess with the locations. I would use the Vistary theme, but I find the buttons difficult to read due to the lens effect, or more to the point, its location. Of course, that is largely a result of what you set out to emulate. I can envision writing a hybrid theme that has lens effects near rectangle bounds, but
that can wait.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
asqueaker@gmail.com 09/27/07 10:10 PM >>>
Looks real good Bill! I especially like highlighting the items in Lists the same as text highlighted in a text pane; a big
improvement
over the red-on-gray list selections of past.
Do you have a mind to ditch the corner handles? Aren't they ugly? Not to mention redundant with the changing of the mouse-pointer. I've also noticed (in 3.9 images) they creep out of their bounds under certain circumstances like too small a window-title font, or maybe square window corners too..
On 9/27/07, Bill Schwab BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu wrote:
This should do it:
http://needle.anest.ufl.edu/users/wschwab/UI-almost.png
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
> Bill Schwab 9/25/2007 11:16:34 PM >>>
I did some fiddling to try to reproduce the installation
problems I
had, added a reminder about the Damien's dev image to
the UI swiki
page,
downloaded it, and did an installation of Gary's widgets using Monitcello. Then I moved my BibTeX helper code into the
new image. I
appear to have made a happy mistake in the latter,
capturing a change
that I considered redundant, and ended up with more or less
the visual
changes I was trying to create, and grabbed a screenshot
before I had
time to break it :)
I will probably send it to Gary as a start. What is the
proper way to
make it available? I suppose the easiest thing is to put
it on my web
page, but I have not yet learned how to use Linux to remotely access
our
servers, so I can't do that right now.
When it becomes available, you will notice the background
color of the
browser's and debugger's code pane. I would hope for the
debugger's
inspector panes to be so colored also, though they
currently show it
only for the top line. Ironically, the workspace in the
image is not
correctly colored, though a newly-created instance has
the correct
color, though, as in the debugger's inspectors, it shows
the color
only
to a point, after which the default white takes over.
Again, this is not a super big deal, but I find that
similar changes
that OA made to Dolphin long ago grew on me.
Bill
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On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:08:51 +0200, Gary Chambers wrote:
Is that with or without the UI Enhancements loaded?
That's a good question. Will load UI Enhancements and check (later the week).
I put a lot of effort into fixing the corner grip positions and using absolute coordinates, rather than deltas, so that the mouse cursor changes appropriately when resizing below the minimumExtent of a window (mouse no longer within the grip upon mouse release).
Ahh, will be nice :)
What does "rescue the old bits" mean?
I referred to #saveBitsUnderCornersOf:on:in:corners: which copies the bits under potential round corner areas, then the client's block is evaluated, then #tweakCornersOf:on:in:borderWidth:corners: puts back some of those bits. Impossible with a one dimensional SVG+html stream :( or similiar media, for that matter.
During rendering the to-be-rounded Morph does not know that, so I signal a RoundedCornersNotification and exchange rounding information between the related methods (the borderWidthForRounding I think) which [the methods and their receivers] may be far away from each other on the stack. I need the "to be rounded" info at the SVG+xhtml element level. Example attached, FireFox/Opera and Inkskape recommended, Morph class names are in the element id. Magnify to 200% and inspect the corners.
Will see that I can get that working with UI Enhancments.
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Klaus D. Witzel Sent: 01 October 2007 1:07 pm To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [UI] Re: Fwd: Workspace backgrounds - almost there
The corner handles are inconvenient also when I do #renderOn: a SVG+xhtml canvas. Sometimes they seem to be one off (hard to predict/reproduce) and the implementation (rescue the old bits...) is/does, hrm, does not give you a good time when *not* rendering on a graphics card.
I have no suggestion for what/how to do better with them, just my CHF 0.05.
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:26:33 +0200, Gary Chambers wrote:
I could make the title button order available as a
preference... For
now you'd need to subclass the UIThemeSoftSqueak and override #configureWindowLabelAreaFor: with the version for Vistary.
Your new
theme subclass will appear in the preferences (you should also override #themeName on the class side).
As for the legibility of button text with Vistary, I find
it alright
when using a FreeType font...
As for corner handles, they were a bugger to fix to work
properly! I'd
prefer the old border/side behaviour with no handles as
such. I could
make this an option if there's sufficient interest.
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Bill Schwab Sent: 29 September 2007 3:23 pm To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [UI] Fwd: Workspace backgrounds - almost there
I knew I missed a question in my global reply - the corner
handles.
They do not particularly bother me (I almost like them
actually), but
if they go away, I won't scream about it. Now that you
mention it,
you're right, they are ugly ;)
Gary, something I just noticed is that the soft squeak
theme leaves
the [x] button on the left of the title bar. I _think_ I
would move
it to he right. That said, I gladly defer to you
judgement. BTW, I
continue to be impressed with your work. For reasons unknown, I switched back to the Vistary theme and noted that you
obviously can
move the close button; at first, I assumed you simply didn't mess with the locations. I would use the Vistary theme, but I find the buttons difficult to read due to the lens effect, or more to the point, its location. Of course, that is largely a result of what you set out to emulate. I can envision writing a hybrid theme that has lens effects near rectangle bounds, but
that can wait.
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
> asqueaker@gmail.com 09/27/07 10:10 PM >>>
Looks real good Bill! I especially like highlighting the items in Lists the same as text highlighted in a text pane; a big
improvement
over the red-on-gray list selections of past.
Do you have a mind to ditch the corner handles? Aren't they ugly? Not to mention redundant with the changing of the mouse-pointer. I've also noticed (in 3.9 images) they creep out of their bounds under certain circumstances like too small a window-title font, or maybe square window corners too..
On 9/27/07, Bill Schwab BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu wrote:
This should do it:
http://needle.anest.ufl.edu/users/wschwab/UI-almost.png
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
>> Bill Schwab 9/25/2007 11:16:34 PM >>>
I did some fiddling to try to reproduce the installation
problems I
had, added a reminder about the Damien's dev image to
the UI swiki
page,
downloaded it, and did an installation of Gary's widgets using Monitcello. Then I moved my BibTeX helper code into the
new image. I
appear to have made a happy mistake in the latter,
capturing a change
that I considered redundant, and ended up with more or less
the visual
changes I was trying to create, and grabbed a screenshot
before I had
time to break it :)
I will probably send it to Gary as a start. What is the
proper way to
make it available? I suppose the easiest thing is to put
it on my web
page, but I have not yet learned how to use Linux to remotely access
our
servers, so I can't do that right now.
When it becomes available, you will notice the background
color of the
browser's and debugger's code pane. I would hope for the
debugger's
inspector panes to be so colored also, though they
currently show it
only for the top line. Ironically, the workspace in the
image is not
correctly colored, though a newly-created instance has
the correct
color, though, as in the debugger's inspectors, it shows
the color
only
to a point, after which the default white takes over.
Again, this is not a super big deal, but I find that
similar changes
that OA made to Dolphin long ago grew on me.
Bill
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On Oct 1, 2007, at 21:19 , Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
I referred to #saveBitsUnderCornersOf:on:in:corners: which copies the bits under potential round corner areas, then the client's block is evaluated, then #tweakCornersOf:on:in:borderWidth:corners: puts back some of those bits. Impossible with a one dimensional SVG +html stream :( or similiar media, for that matter.
During rendering the to-be-rounded Morph does not know that, so I signal a RoundedCornersNotification and exchange rounding information between the related methods (the borderWidthForRounding I think) which [the methods and their receivers] may be far away from each other on the stack. I need the "to be rounded" info at the SVG+xhtml element level. Example attached, FireFox/Opera and Inkskape recommended, Morph class names are in the element id. Magnify to 200% and inspect the corners.
Hehe, I had to do a similar hack for the Rome canvas in Tweak ... I did away with the whole saveBits mess:
roundCornersOf: aPlayer in: bounds during: aBlock aPlayer roundCorners ifFalse: [^aBlock value]. ^aBlock on: RomeTweakWantsRoundedCorners do: [:ex | ex resume: (ex bounds = bounds ifTrue: [aPlayer roundCornerFlags] ifFalse: [nil])]
roundedCornersFor: aRectangle ^(RomeTweakWantsRoundedCorners forBounds: aRectangle) signal
frameAndFillRectangle: r fillColor: c borderWidth: borderWidth borderColor: borderColor (self roundedCornersFor: r) ifNotNilDo: [:corners | ^self frameAndFillRoundRect: r radius: 6 fillStyle: c borderWidth: borderWidth borderColor: borderColor corners: corners].
canvas selectFill: c asRomeFill. canvas selectPenWidth: borderWidth color: borderColor. canvas drawRectangle: (r insetByRomePenWidth: borderWidth color: borderColor).
- Bert -
Yes, I figured it would be the CornerRounder. If only Morphic had rounded rectangle primitives available... though that wouldn't help in the case of rounding the corners of a picture, say.
Nice work with the SVG generation btw.
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:59:57 +0200, Gary Chambers:
Yes, I figured it would be the CornerRounder. If only Morphic had rounded rectangle primitives available... though that wouldn't help in the case of rounding the corners of a picture, say.
:(
Nice work with the SVG generation btw.
Thank you :)
You can see a MVC Squeak project rendered realtime at
- http://squeak.cobss.ch/seaside/sextant
Click the windows, refresh the page (redoes VM statistics), ask for a world menu (it's web browser friendly: only one mouse button ;-) This prototype doesn't do anything else but running on Seaside/2.7 (almost out of the Seaside release box; that may change since Michel Baney attempts to accept one of my Seaside patches).
If I find time later the week I'll see that/how UI Enhancements replaces MVC in the prototype.
On 2-Oct-07, at 1:59 AM, Gary Chambers wrote:
Yes, I figured it would be the CornerRounder. If only Morphic had rounded rectangle primitives available... though that wouldn't help in the case of rounding the corners of a picture, say.
So don't round the corners. Horrible idea anyway.
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Drugs may lead to nowhere, but at least it's the scenic route.
That's a matter of opinion! The UIThemes support widget-level overrides for this... Just a theme-level super-override for buttons at the moment.
I think the rounding make things "cuter" (probably not an accepted word "more cute" then) in moderation...
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of tim Rowledge Sent: 02 October 2007 4:20 pm To: Squeak's User Interface Subject: Re: [UI] Rounded corners [was Re: Fwd: Workspace backgrounds -almostthere]
On 2-Oct-07, at 1:59 AM, Gary Chambers wrote:
Yes, I figured it would be the CornerRounder. If only Morphic had rounded rectangle primitives available... though that wouldn't help in the case of rounding the corners of a picture, say.
So don't round the corners. Horrible idea anyway.
tim
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For the moment I have added edge grips for windows (subtle looking, depending on theme). At least it helps that any edge can resize rather than hunting for the corner...
On SqueakSource only for the moment, Pinesoft-Widgets-gvc.243.mcz.
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Gary Chambers Sent: 01 October 2007 11:27 am To: 'Squeak's User Interface' Subject: RE: [UI] Fwd: Workspace backgrounds - almost there
I could make the title button order available as a preference... For now you'd need to subclass the UIThemeSoftSqueak and override #configureWindowLabelAreaFor: with the version for Vistary. Your new theme subclass will appear in the preferences (you should also override #themeName on the class side).
As for the legibility of button text with Vistary, I find it alright when using a FreeType font...
As for corner handles, they were a bugger to fix to work properly! I'd prefer the old border/side behaviour with no handles as such. I could make this an option if there's sufficient interest.
-----Original Message----- From: ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:ui-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Bill Schwab Sent: 29 September 2007 3:23 pm To: ui@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [UI] Fwd: Workspace backgrounds - almost there
I knew I missed a question in my global reply - the corner handles. They do not particularly bother me (I almost like them actually), but if they go away, I won't scream about it. Now that you mention it, you're right, they are ugly ;)
Gary, something I just noticed is that the soft squeak theme leaves the [x] button on the left of the title bar. I _think_ I would move it to he right. That said, I gladly defer to you judgement. BTW, I continue to be impressed with your work. For reasons unknown, I switched back to the Vistary theme and noted that you obviously can move the close button; at first, I assumed you simply didn't mess with the locations. I would use the Vistary theme, but I find the buttons difficult to read due to the lens effect, or more to the point, its location. Of course, that is largely a result of what you set out to emulate. I can envision writing a hybrid theme that has lens effects near rectangle bounds, but that
can wait.
Bill
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asqueaker@gmail.com 09/27/07 10:10 PM >>>
Looks real good Bill! I especially like highlighting the items in Lists the same as text highlighted in a text pane; a big improvement over the red-on-gray list selections of past.
Do you have a mind to ditch the corner handles? Aren't they ugly? Not to mention redundant with the changing of the mouse-pointer. I've also noticed (in 3.9 images) they creep out of their bounds under certain circumstances like too small a window-title font, or maybe square window corners too..
On 9/27/07, Bill Schwab BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu wrote:
This should do it:
http://needle.anest.ufl.edu/users/wschwab/UI-almost.png
Bill
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Bill Schwab 9/25/2007 11:16:34 PM >>>
I did some fiddling to try to reproduce the installation
problems I
had, added a reminder about the Damien's dev image to the UI swiki
page,
downloaded it, and did an installation of Gary's widgets using Monitcello. Then I moved my BibTeX helper code into the
new image. I
appear to have made a happy mistake in the latter,
capturing a change
that I considered redundant, and ended up with more or less
the visual
changes I was trying to create, and grabbed a screenshot
before I had
time to break it :)
I will probably send it to Gary as a start. What is the
proper way to
make it available? I suppose the easiest thing is to put
it on my web
page, but I have not yet learned how to use Linux to
remotely access
our
servers, so I can't do that right now.
When it becomes available, you will notice the background
color of the
browser's and debugger's code pane. I would hope for the
debugger's
inspector panes to be so colored also, though they
currently show it
only for the top line. Ironically, the workspace in the
image is not
correctly colored, though a newly-created instance has the correct color, though, as in the debugger's inspectors, it shows the color
only
to a point, after which the default white takes over.
Again, this is not a super big deal, but I find that
similar changes
that OA made to Dolphin long ago grew on me.
Bill
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