Is there something I should have checked before sending these message? Maybe I have missed something and just didn't get these strings into my system?
German PO seems to have a few strings marked as fuzzy. Fuzzy string
doesn't appear in compiled MOs.
So you should review and finalize them (e.g. clear fuzzy)
The etoys.mo has been compiled from an actual etoys.po from Pootle (3660 strings all without "fuzzy"). The resulting etoys.mo has been copied into the german lang- directory in my local etoy-directory. Now: I can see the translation strings from pootle in an running etoy-image. But: The squeak/etoy language-editor for says: "4526 phrases 2371 translated 2155 untranslated". The translation strings from pootle doesn't show up in the internal language-editor. The translation strings from the internal language-editor doesn't show up on pootle. What's the best way to merge these translations into one single german translation? How to resolve conflicts between these "versions" and bring them back up to pootle?
- POT is generated in build process and registered to git, as Bert
explained. You could check if the string missing in PO is missing in newer POT also. If there is in newer POT then wait for next merge.
In theory, Pootle will merge newer etoys.pot to all of PO. But it hasn't been executed for several months becauseetoys.pot/po are too big for Pootle to process. Admins are working to fix it, so stay tuned...
When will that happen?
- If the string is actually missing in POT then changes to squeak
code will be needed, So please fill ticket on trac about the missing string.
best regards Gerhard Steiner
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 12:07 AM, Gerhard Steiner gd.steiner@gmx.at wrote:
Is there something I should have checked before sending these message? Maybe I have missed something and just didn't get these strings into my system?
German PO seems to have a few strings marked as fuzzy. Fuzzy string
doesn't appear in compiled MOs.
So you should review and finalize them (e.g. clear fuzzy)
The etoys.mo has been compiled from an actual etoys.po from Pootle (3660 strings all without "fuzzy").
Really? Right now Pootle shows German PO including 1138 fuzzy words.
The resulting etoys.mo has been copied into the german lang- directory in my local etoy-directory. Now: I can see the translation strings from pootle in an running etoy-image. But: The squeak/etoy language-editor for says: "4526 phrases 2371 translated 2155 untranslated". The translation strings from pootle doesn't show up in the internal language-editor. The translation strings from the internal language-editor doesn't show up on pootle.
Current Etoys implementation has two translation engines. + newly implmented one with gettext emulation called "GetTextTranslator". the engine dynamically load translation data from MO. + legacy one called "InternalTranslator" (that have been named "NaturalLanguageTranslator" in older version of Squeak). translation data is managed in image persistently.
Etoys dynamically choose translation engine/dictionary on run time: If MO is installed for some language etoys use gettext for the langauge. If you want to verify how some phrase will be translated, open Workspace in Etoys and evaluate: 'phrase' translated
The LanguageEditor in Squeak work only with InternalTranslator. So you can't see translations from MO there.
What's the best way to merge these translations into one single german translation? How to resolve conflicts between these "versions" and bring them back up to pootle?
Our thought was Etoys will use only gettext based translation (in typical usage at least). Our translation effort for Etoys will be only toward to gettext based engine and on Pootle. Though we still keep translation data in-image for InternalTranslator, I don't think we will do significant maintenance for that. We export all of translations in InternalTranslator and load to Pootle when we started work there. So I don't think you would need to care about in-image translations.
(note that I am speaking only for Etoys, not for squeak3.9 and following versions that are still with legacy translation engine)
In theory, Pootle will merge newer etoys.pot to all of PO. But it hasn't been executed for several months becauseetoys.pot/po are too big for Pootle to process. Admins are working to fix it, so stay tuned...
When will that happen?
Let me check...
/Korakurider
Dear Developers,
attached please find a list with "missing" translation strings, which are not included in the pot-File in Pootle. Please make them translatable. It seems, this one of the last steps toward a fully translated etoy. Please let me know if I you need further informations.
best regards Gerhard Steiner
******************************** Missing Strings for Translation ********************************
This is a list of some missing Translations-Strings in the olpc-etoys-image. We have translated all strings on the Pootle-Server into German, prepared an etoy.mo and tested the resulting Image. With German as language choice, but there is still some english text showing up :-). In some places, this is ok, but it doesn't look good when ... - the buttons of an object or the branches in a menu are mixed up in two languages - the buttons have a german label and an english baloon help. - the first branch in an menu has german help baloon, the second an english one, the third an german one, ...
So this is a list to get the most annoying language mixups out of etoys. The translators are willing to translate them, but we need the strings. So please check the source and make them available. *********************************************************************************************************** *********************************************************************************************************** *********************************************************************************************************** Missing Strings Part 1 *********************************************************************************************************** *********************************************************************************************************** ***********************************************************************************************************
Halo Menu
Baloon Help "wether I should be resistant to easy deletion via the pink X handle" Baloon Help "wether I should to a drag done by mousing down on me" Baloon Help "when "locked" I am inert to all user interactions" Baloon Help "whether the parts of objects within me that are outsice my bounds should be masked" Baloon Help "whether direction handles are shown with the halo" Baloon Help "whether I am open to having objects dropped into me"
Halo Menu - Border Style "complexAltFramed" Halo Menu - Border Style "complexAltInset" Halo Menu - Border Style "complexAltRaised" Halo Menu - Border Style "complexFramed" Halo Menu - Border Style "complexInset" Halo Menu - Border Style "complexRaised"
Halo Menu - layout - table layout - cell positioning - "top right" Halo Menu - layout - table layout - cell positioning - "bottom left" Halo Menu - layout - table layout - cell positioning - "top center" Halo Menu - layout - table layout - cell positioning - "left center" Halo Menu - layout - table layout - cell positioning - "right center" Halo Menu - layout - table layout - cell positioning - "bottom center"
Halo Menu - layout - table layout - cell spacing - "local rect" Halo Menu - layout - table layout - cell spacing - "local square" Halo Menu - layout - table layout - cell spacing - "global rect" Halo Menu - layout - table layout - cell spacing - "global square"
Halo Menu - adhere to edge... "topLeft" Halo Menu - adhere to edge... "topRight" Halo Menu - adhere to edge... "bottomLeft" Halo Menu - adhere to edge... "bottomRight" Halo Menu - debug... "inspect properties"
Halo Menu - Emphasis & alignment - "bold" Halo Menu - Emphasis & alignment - "italic" Halo Menu - Emphasis & alignment - "underlined" Halo Menu - Emphasis & alignment - "struckOut" Halo Menu - Emphasis & alignment - "leftFlush" Halo Menu - Emphasis & alignment - "centered" Halo Menu - Emphasis & alignment - "right Flush" *********************************************************************************************************** halo menu "painting..." *********************************************************************************************************** script-controll - When should these script run? "paused" "ticking" "mouseDown" "mouseStillDown" "mouseUp" "mouseEnter" "mouseLeave" "mouseEnterDragging" "mouseLeaveDragging" "opening" "closing" "what do these mean?" "apply my status to all siblings" -> more... "connectedTo" -> more... "disconnectedFrom" -> more... "scrolledIntoView" -> more... "scrolledOutofView" *********************************************************************************************************** Menu "authoring tools..." "etoys vocabulary summary" *********************************************************************************************************** debug menu "inspect properties" *********************************************************************************************************** Window Menu "make undraggable" *********************************************************************************************************** Start Page
"Make a project" + Baloon Help "To make your own project click here" "Tutorials and Demos" "Gallery of Projects" Baloon Help "This is the script that controls the car. EXperiment and try changing some numbers" "load code updates" + help baloon "Check the Squeak server for any new code updates, and load any that are found" "save" + help baloon "Make a complete snapshot of the current state of the image onto disk." *********************************************************************************************************** Book - Menu Baloon Help "If set, when you resize the book, all of its pages get automatically resized." Baloon Help "If on, page controls (when present), will appear at the the top of the book; if off, they will appear at the bottom" Baloon Help "If set, the shorter form of page controls will be used when page controls are showing" Baloon Help "If set, a row of page controls will appear at the top of the book" Ballon Help "If set, stop-step-go buttons within the page's interior will govern only scripts for objects resinding within the page" Ballon Help "If set, the book page occupies the entire screen" Ballon Help "If set, the first page in the book will be considered to be the next page after the last page, so that continually pressing the next or pevious button will continually cycle through all pages of the book" *********************************************************************************************************** Halo Menu Bouncing Atoms Dialog Window for set atom count "Number of atoms?" *********************************************************************************************************** FreeCell Statistics "OK" "Reset" "Current" There is a bug in FreeCell: There are no checks for allowed moves. So you can move cards as you want. *********************************************************************************************************** ChineseCheckers "new game" "reset..." "How many players?" "How many humans?" "don'animate moves" *********************************************************************************************************** Cypher - Missing Translation Strings for Buttons in Crostic Panel "show hints" "show errors" "show help" *********************************************************************************************************** Chess - No Translation Strings available for "New" "Help" "I suggest: a chess move" "Play" "Auto" "Undo" "Redo" "Quit" *********************************************************************************************************** Cypher Missing translation strings for buttons "show help" "show hints" "clear typing" *********************************************************************************************************** Same-Game Missing translation strings for buttons "Help" "Quit" "Hint" "New game" "Score" "Selection" *********************************************************************************************************** *********************************************************************************************************** *********************************************************************************************************** Missing Strings Part 2 *********************************************************************************************************** *********************************************************************************************************** *********************************************************************************************************** Tools Filelist "OK" + baloon help "hit here to accept the current selection" "cancel" + baloon help "hit here to cancel" *********************************************************************************************************** Tools File Dialog "Art" "Morphs" "Projects" "Books" "Music" "Movies" "Flash" "TrueType" "Tape" "HTML" "Background" + baloon help "use graphic as background" "Import" + baloon help "read graphic into ImageImports" "Open" + baloon help "open graphic in a window" "Cancel"+ baloon help "cancel this search" "Load as morph"+ baloon help "load as morph" "Cancel" "XO"+ baloon help "make XO bundle" "Load" + baloon help "load as project" "Cancel" There are maybe additional buttons and baloon helps in "Books", "Music", "Movies", "Flash", "TrueType","Tape", "HTML" *********************************************************************************************************** Trash can: Translations are missing when you start with an empty trashcan After first empty of trashcan translation gets visible Misleading help text as the "-" button does not show up
baloon help "Close the trashcan. (to view again later, click on any trashcan)." "E" + baloon help "Click here to empty the trash" baloon help for "<" "Previous Page" baloon help for "<" "Next Page" help text "Objects you drag into the trash will automatically be saved ..." *********************************************************************************************************** flap menu "change tab wording..." "use graphical tab" "use solid tab" big help text for flaps not avalaible, when you press ("about flaps") *********************************************************************************************************** Preferences Main Window "?", "browsing" "Search Preferences for:" "Type here, hit Search" + baloon help "Type what you want to search for here, then hit the "Search" button, or else hit RETURN or ENTER" "Search" + baloon help "Type what you want to search for in the box above ...." "Restore all Default Preference Settings" + baloon help "Click here to reset all the ..." "Save Current Settings as my Personal Preferences" + baloon help "Click here to save ...." "Restore my Personal Preferences" + baloon help "Click here to reset ..." "Save Currenct Settings to Disk" + baloon help "Click here to save the ..." "Restore Settings from Disk" + baloon help "Click here to load all ..." "Inspect Parameters" + baloon help "Click here to view all the values ..." "Help!" + baloon help "Click here to get some hints ..." Preferences - halo "iconic" + baloon help "cicular icons with icons inside" "classic" + baloon help "plain circular icons" "simple" + baloon help "fewer, larger halos" "custom" + baloon help "customizable halos" *********************************************************************************************************** Event theatre - Main window record baloon help "Start recording" Text while recording "Hit ESC to stop recording" publish baloon help "When you hit this, you will be handed a button which, when it is clicked, will open up ..." "Record Again" + baloon help "Abandon existing recording and start a new one.) rewind baloon help "Reset to the starting condition for this recording" play button baloon help "Replay this sequence" "Start recording voiceover" + help baloon "Stop recording voiceover" + help baloon
*********************************************************************************************************** event theatre - missing translation while playback baloon help "Temporarily pause this playback" baloon help "Stop playing or recording this panel" dialog window title "The current recording has not been saved, and will be lost if you do this; are you sure you want to proceed? *********************************************************************************************************** event theatre player - halo menu "auto start" "auto dismiss" *********************************************************************************************************** event-roll main window "mouse" "keyboard" "media" help text for event roll shows up in etoys.pot, but not while running event roll (small diff between strings in etoy2-3.pot and etoy3-0.pot *********************************************************************************************************** zip tool: no translation strings available *********************************************************************************************************** badge: no translation strings available *********************************************************************************************************** StarSqueak Dialog "evaporationRate" + baloon help "The rate at which cemicals ..." "diffusionRate" + baloon help "The rate of chemical diffusion ..." "cellCount" + baloon help "The number of slime mold cells" *********************************************************************************************************** Nebraska Server "Shutdown the Server?" baloon help "End Nebrasks session" baloon help "Show more or less of Nebraska Status" *********************************************************************************************************** Text Chat "Replies" Baloon Help "Send with Return?" Baloon Help "IP address for chat partner" Dialog Window "Enter a new IP address for chat partner" *********************************************************************************************************** Text Chat+ "Multi chat with:" Baloon Help "Send with Return?" Baloon Help "Click to edit participant list" Dialog Window "Who are you chatting with?" *********************************************************************************************************** Audio Chat All Translations-Strings missing ***********************************************************************************************************
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