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Re: [Box-Admins] Mailing list problems again?
by Tobias Pape 12 Jan '20

12 Jan '20

> On 12.01.2020, at 18:52, Thiede, Christoph <Christoph.Thiede(a)student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de> wrote: > > Hi, do we have problems with the mailing list again? I pressed buttons again. Mails are appearing. Best regards -Tobias > Best, > Christoph > > Von: Mail Delivery System <MAILER-DAEMON(a)mail.squeak.org> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. Januar 2020 18:04 Uhr > An: Thiede, Christoph > Betreff: Delayed Mail (still being retried) > > This is the mail system at host mail.squeak.org. > > #################################################################### > # THIS IS A WARNING ONLY. YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE. # > #################################################################### > > Your message could not be delivered for more than 4 hour(s). > It will be retried until it is 21 day(s) old. > > For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the attached returned message. > > The mail system > > <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org>: delivery temporarily suspended: > connect to 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024: Connection refused > Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.squeak.org > X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 58AC514D8F2 > X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; Christoph.Thiede(a)student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de > Arrival-Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 12:45:54 +0000 (UTC) > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > Original-Recipient: rfc822;squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > Action: delayed > Status: 4.4.1 > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; delivery temporarily suspended: connect to > 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024: Connection refused > Will-Retry-Until: Sun, 2 Feb 2020 12:45:54 +0000 (UTC) >

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Re: [Box-Admins] Problems with mailing list?
by Chris Muller 15 Dec '19

15 Dec '19

Hi Christoph, I only manage the server software for source.squeak.org, but not the mail server on that system. cc'ing some other folks, hopefully someone will know what's going on... On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 8:44 AM Thiede, Christoph < Christoph.Thiede(a)student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de> wrote: > Hi Chris, > > > are you responsible for the mailing list, or who is else? :) I suppose the > mailing list does not work correctly at the moment. I pushed a few commits > today and sent an email to the list, but none of them appears in my inbox > or in the forum <http://forum.world.st/Squeak-Dev-f45488.html>. > > > > > Is it me or is it Nabble or the mail server? > > > Best, > > Christoph >

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Access to the new server(s)
by Tobias Pape 05 Apr '19

05 Apr '19

Dear all [ACTIONS AT END] with retroactive blessing of Levente, I have now prepared eight VMs on Rackspace. Here's the overview: ======================================================================================================================= Name Name (ext) intended use Unix Users Public Ports Private Ports Public IPv4 Private IPv4 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ian ssh.squeak.org ssh-gateway ssh 1022 22 104.130.6.82 10.208.225.29 alan *.squeak.org webserver webteam 80, 443 22 104.239.229.92 10.176.200.8 adele lists.... mailinglists (tbd) 25, 587, 465 22, 8080 162.242.237.43 10.208.160.56 andreas -------- source.squeak chrismuller* -------- 22, 8080 irrelevant 10.208.161.222 dan -------- squeaksource davidlewis* -------- 22, 8080 irrelevant 10.176.197.150 ted -------- squeak wiki+map (tbd) -------- 22, 8080, 8081 irrelevant 10.176.130.111 david -------- jenkins (tbd) -------- 22, 8080 irrelevant 10.208.194.45 scott -------- misc (tbd) -------- 22, 8080, 8081 irrelevant 10.176.199.169 ======================================================================================================================= Currently, Levente and me have sudo on all these machines. Users with * also do. Note that _no_ server exposes SSH on port 22 on a public IP. This is intentional to narrow attack vectors for script kiddies. How to login? Ian is the ssh gateway so you have to connect to ian _first_ and use (1) local forwarding or (2) proxy jumping. I have installed the Public keys from most of you for the 'ssh' user on ian. Please verify by ssh -p1022 -lssh 104.130.6.82 you should see restrict shell, no commands # (you get out with crtl-d, ctrl-c, or killing ssh) How to reach the other servers? Example for 'andreas' variant (1): Do a local forward by ssh -AN -L22221:10.176.200.8:22 -p1022 -lssh 104.130.6.82 and then ssh -lYOURNAME -p22221 localhost (-N maybe optional, but then you see 'restrict shell, no commands #') Or in your .ssh/config you can put Host ian.squeak.org User ssh Hostname 104.130.6.82 Port 1022 LocalForward 222221 10.176.200.8:22 Host andreas.squeak.org User YOURNAME Hostname localhost Port 222221 And then say 'ssh -AN ian.squeak.org' and then 'ssh andreas.squeak.org' variant (2): (a) You have OpenSSH >= 7.3 Do a Jump with ssh -J ssh@104.130.6.82:1022 YOURNAME(a)10.176.200.8 Or in your .ssh/config you can put Host ian.squeak.org User ssh Hostname 104.130.6.82 Port 1022 Host andreas.squeak.org User YOURNAME Hostname 10.176.200.8 ProxyJump ian.squeak.org And then say 'ssh andreas.squeak.org' (b) You have OpenSSH >= 5.4 Do a Jump via ssh -o ProxyCommand="ssh -lssh -p1022 -W %h:%p 104.130.6.82" YOURNAME(a)10.176.200.8 Or in your .ssh/config you can put Host ian.squeak.org User ssh Hostname 104.130.6.82 Port 1022 Host andreas.squeak.org User YOURNAME Hostname 10.176.200.8 ProxyCommand ssh -W %h:%p ian.squeak.org And then say 'ssh andreas.squeak.org' (c) You have OpenSSH < 5.4 Use variant (1) We will shortly start RSYNC-ing over data from box3 and box4 as well as replicatiing DNS entries before switching over. [ACTION REQUIRED] - Who needs access to which servers? - Do we need Jenkins anymore? As always, questions appreciated. Best regards -Tobias

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Proposal to assist the Cuis project by offering use of Squeak.org mail hosting services (was: [Cuis-dev] Problems with the mail list - Let's move to a new mail list server)
by David T. Lewis 02 Apr '19

02 Apr '19

I would like to request the support of the board to offer assistance to the Cuis project by hosting the cuis-dev(a)cuis-smalltalk.org mailing list on available sqeak.org infrastructure. We are fortunate to have an excellent hosting infrastructure for our web servers and mailing lists. Currently we incur no cost for use of that infrastructure due to our membership in the Software Freedom Conservancy and to our commitment to free distribution and promotion of Squeak and related projects. The Cuis project is strongly connected with Squeak, and is compatible with and supportive of the Squeak project. For that reason, I believe that it is appropriate to make the squeak.org infrastructure available for support of the cuis-dev mailing list. The attached email from Juan Vuletich on cuis-dev provides background. I have not previously discussed with with Juan, although I am CCing him here. CC also to box-admins, just in case this is not a feasible suggestion. I am not an expert on mailing lists, but I am assuming that it is possible to host a cuis-dev(a)cuis-smalltalk.org mailing list on our servers without losing the "Cuis" identity. In other words, the list identity must still be be cuis-dev(a)cuis-smalltalk.org, not cuis-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org. Does the board support this proposal? Thanks, Dave ----- Forwarded message from Juan Vuletich via Cuis-dev <cuis-dev(a)cuis-smalltalk.org> ----- Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 08:31:17 -0300 To: Discussion of Cuis Smalltalk <cuis-dev(a)cuis-smalltalk.org> Subject: [Cuis-dev] Problems with the mail list - Let's move to a new mail list server List-Id: Discussion of Cuis Smalltalk <cuis-dev.cuis-smalltalk.org> List-Archive: <http://cuis-smalltalk.org/pipermail/cuis-dev_cuis-smalltalk.org/> From: Juan Vuletich via Cuis-dev <cuis-dev(a)cuis-smalltalk.org> Cc: Juan Vuletich <juan(a)jvuletich.org> Hi Folks, We have been having problems with the mail list for a long time. The current mail list is hosted at a personal hosting service of mine, at www.hostgator.com. The problems we have include: - It seems that there are people who use hostgator.com servers to send spam, so their ip addresses are sometimes blacklisted by isp of some list subscribers. As a result some folks can't get messages from the list. - Hostgator has a limit of 500 emails per hour. Given that we have more than a hundred subscribers, the limit has been hit at least once, and the result is that the server just discards the messages. So, for a certain message, some people will get it and others won't. This is unacceptable. Hostgator suggests moving to either phpList (that can throttle to avoid the limit) or ConstantContact, that has no limit. But mailman (our current software, that can't throttle message sends) was written for discussion lists. phpList is for newsletter distribution (i.e. a single sender). ConstantContact is a separate company specializing in email marketing. So, hostgator doesn't really consider a discussion mail list as a valid use case. - The list is tied to a personal account, that also includes jvuletich.org and personal information, and this makes it hard to share administration with someone else. I believe the best solution is to move our mail list somewhere else. My wishlist for this is that - It is a non-paid service - Its administration can be shared between several people - It has freely accessible archives, and a reasonable web interface - It doesn't include ads in messages - It is an email list, not a web based forum I can't believe that GitHub doesn't offer such a service. It could be nicely integrated into Organizations, Repos, Teams, Issues, etc. So far, the best I found is www.freelists.org . Any suggestion, or comment on pros / cons of alternatives is warmly welcome! Thanks, -- Juan Vuletich www.cuis-smalltalk.org https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev https://github.com/jvuletich https://www.linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3 @JuanVuletich _______________________________________________ Cuis-dev mailing list Cuis-dev(a)cuis-smalltalk.org http://cuis-smalltalk.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis-dev_cuis-smalltalk.org ----- End forwarded message -----

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In case MS decides to spam-mark us again
by Tobias Pape 20 Dec '18

20 Dec '18

... see here: https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Microsoft_Blacklist/en Maybe someone should write that down somewhere -t

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Re: [Box-Admins] Something's strange
by Tobias Pape 12 Dec '18

12 Dec '18

Hi All > On 10.12.2018, at 11:43, Craig Latta <craig(a)blackpagedigital.com> wrote: > > > Hi Tobias-- > >> in addition to the high-rate SPAM-bounces for Squeak-dev I have just >> received 222 unsubscribe notifications for squeak-dev, too. Can >> someone please have a look? > > What should I be looking for? I very occasionally use the Postman > interface to clear out the spam queue, that's about it. The console interface (/var/lib/mailman and so on) as well as the logs give a clue. One of the Box-admins should have a look. > >> Also, Craig, can you please remove me as Moderator for squeak-dev? > > Done; thanks for being a moderator! Thank you. I hope we find someone with a bit of time at hand to help here. Best regards -Tobias > > > -C > > -- > Craig Latta > Black Page Digital > Amsterdam :: San Francisco > craig(a)blackpagedigital.com > +31 6 2757 7177 (SMS ok) > + 1 415 287 3547 (no SMS)

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Something's strange
by Tobias Pape 10 Dec '18

10 Dec '18

Hi all in addition to the high-rate SPAM-bounces for Squeak-dev I have just received 222 unsubscribe notifications for squeak-dev, too. Can someone please have a look? Also, Craig, can you please remove me as Moderator for squeak-dev? Dear Board, can you please find a replacement squeak-dev moderator for me? Best regards -Tobias PS: Please note I am _not_ a postmaster for the server anyome and do not receive mails to postmaster@. Those who do are Levente Uzonyi, David Lewis and Chris Cunnington.

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Restarting squeaksource.com on dan.box.squeak.org
by David T. Lewis 07 Dec '18

07 Dec '18

Squeaksource.com seems to be off line for some reason. I get 502 Bad Gateway from a web browser, no response when accessing it from an MC browser, and I cannot connect with VMC. I don't see anything obviously wrong, CPU and memory usage seem normal, and file descriptor count is in normal limits. The image was saved within the last 4 hours, and that image is working normally (I downloaded it to my PC and checked). I will restart the image and see if it comes back. Dave

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Fwd: Bounce action notification
by Tobias Pape 20 Nov '18

20 Nov '18

Aaand we're spam-listed at Gandi… can anyone please look into that? Best regards -Tobias > Begin forwarded message: > > From: mailman(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > Subject: Bounce action notification > Date: 20. November 2018 um 20:41:10 MEZ > To: squeak-dev-owner(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > Delivered-To: squeak-dev-owner(a)mail.squeak.org > > This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice: > > List: Squeak-dev > Member: ragnar(a)ragnar-hojland.com > Action: Subscription disabled. > Reason: Excessive or fatal bounces. > > > > The triggering bounce notice is attached below. > > Questions? Contact the Mailman site administrator at > mailman(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org. > > From: MAILER-DAEMON(a)mail.squeak.org (Mail Delivery System) > Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender > Date: 20. November 2018 um 20:30:46 MEZ > To: squeak-dev-bounces(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > Delivered-To: squeak-dev-bounces(a)mail.squeak.org > > > This is the mail system at host mail.squeak.org. > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not > be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. > > For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the attached returned message. > > The mail system > > <pdfernhout(a)kurtz-fernhout.comthomas.h.robinson>: Host or domain name not > found. Name service error for name=kurtz-fernhout.comthomas.h.robinson > type=A: Host not found > > <nicolas(a)roard.com>: host spool.mail.gandi.net[217.70.178.1] said: 550 5.7.1 > Reject for policy reason RULE3_2. See http://postmaster.gandi.net (in reply > to end of DATA command) > > <ragnar(a)ragnar-hojland.com>: host spool.mail.gandi.net[217.70.178.1] said: 550 > 5.7.1 Reject for policy reason RULE3_2. See http://postmaster.gandi.net > (in reply to end of DATA command) > Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.squeak.org > X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 22873BDE0F > X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; SRS0=fLZt=N7=lists.squeakfoundation.org=squeak-dev-bounces(a)squeak.org > Arrival-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 19:29:45 +0000 (UTC) > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; pdfernhout(a)kurtz-fernhout.comthomas.h.robinson > Original-Recipient: rfc822;pdfernhout(a)kurtz-fernhout.comthomas.h.robinson > Action: failed > Status: 5.4.4 > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Host or domain name not found. Name service error > for name=kurtz-fernhout.comthomas.h.robinson type=A: Host not found > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; nicolas(a)roard.com > Original-Recipient: rfc822;nicolas(a)roard.com > Action: failed > Status: 5.7.1 > Remote-MTA: dns; spool.mail.gandi.net > Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Reject for policy reason RULE3_2. See > http://postmaster.gandi.net > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; ragnar(a)ragnar-hojland.com > Original-Recipient: rfc822;ragnar(a)ragnar-hojland.com > Action: failed > Status: 5.7.1 > Remote-MTA: dns; spool.mail.gandi.net > Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Reject for policy reason RULE3_2. See > http://postmaster.gandi.net > > From: commits(a)source.squeak.org > Subject: [squeak-dev] The Inbox: Collections-cbc.813.mcz > Date: 20. November 2018 um 20:29:40 MEZ > To: squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > Reply-To: squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > Delivered-To: squeak-dev(a)mail.squeak.org > > > Chris Cunningham uploaded a new version of Collections to project The Inbox: > http://source.squeak.org/inbox/Collections-cbc.813.mcz > > ==================== Summary ==================== > > Name: Collections-cbc.813 > Author: cbc > Time: 20 November 2018, 11:28:59.501218 am > UUID: 78c08e62-a381-284a-b476-6e638d99f91d > Ancestors: Collections-cbc.812 > > Altered Interval>>hash to increase entropy > > =============== Diff against Collections-cbc.812 =============== > > Item was changed: > ----- Method: Interval>>hash (in category 'comparing') ----- > hash > "Hash is reimplemented because = is implemented." > + ^((start hash hashMultiply bitXor: self last hash) hashMultiply > + bitXor: self size)! > - > - ^(((start hash bitShift: 2) > - bitOr: self last hash) > - bitShift: 1) > - bitOr: self size! > > > > > >

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Re: [Box-Admins] [squeak-dev] Seems mighty quiet around here
by Tobias Pape 15 Nov '18

15 Nov '18

Ok Fixed. Somehow the servers started using their public ip, which is _not_ in the "these are my hosts" list of adele. Also, since they are rackspace-ip's they get a little blacklisted right on the spot. TL;DR: Adele already blocked Andreas from mails… Someone should go and add all our ip's to adeles list. -t > On 14.11.2018, at 14:18, David T. Lewis <lewis(a)mail.msen.com> wrote: > > I also put a package into trunk last night, and have not seen an > email update. > > Dave > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 12:28:31AM +0100, Levente Uzonyi wrote: >> I just uploaded two packages to the Trunk, but received no email on the >> list about them. The packages show up on source.squeak.org, but it took a >> while till the uploads were processed. >> Other emails seem to be delivered, so perhaps there's something wrong >> with the image. >> >> Levente >> >> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018, Tobias Pape wrote: >> >>> Thanks! >>>> On 13.11.2018, at 18:28, Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)caesar.elte.hu> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018, Tobias Pape wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 13.11.2018, at 17:50, David T. Lewis <lewis(a)mail.msen.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe it's quite because nothing is breaking ;-) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No, the internet is overzealous. Someone should go and disable SMTP via >>>>> IPv6 on Adele. >>>> >>>> Done. >>>> >>>> Levente >>>> >>>>> Ist a source of getting Spam-listed or I-don't-like-your-kind-ed for >>>>> some reason. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards >>>>> -Tobias >>>>> >>>>>> Dave >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Did something break? ?? It seems mighty quiet in these parts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bruce >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > >> > >

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