Hm, I thought Tobias meant "run source.squeak.org's image with SS3 code" rather than "move source.squeak.org's code to the SS3 servers".
Which would address your concerns about external/internal projects, and the need to self-host.
frank
On 14 January 2014 00:09, Chris Muller asqueaker@gmail.com wrote:
SS3 is already up and running, and all projects which are still alive in 2014 and care to do so have moved their individual projects to SS3. That's a perfect fit for its place in the universe.
I think attempting to cram the rest of the old squeaksource.com model en masse would be a big mistake.
SS3 is great for external projects. I have all of mine there now. But it has had issues in the past which are left to the mercy of Dale's and Tobias' availability. I personally think Squeak needs incentive to stay fit, at least enough to self-host its own code for source.squeak.org.
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:36 PM, David T. Lewis lewis@mail.msen.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:10:56AM +0100, Tobias Pape wrote:
On 14.01.2014, at 00:00, Chris Muller asqueaker@gmail.com wrote:
It seems clear (as previously noted) that we really need to update our source.squeak.org and squeaksource.com images to use an up to date Seaside.
A prerequisite to that is to update our source.squeak.org and squeaksource.com images to be 4.5 images.
Just FYI -- I've done with the source.squeak.org backup on box4. It's running the code which is committed to the "ss" repository of source.squeak.org (so, self hosting its own code) in a 2-month old trunk image.
A future step to update Seaside in there would be nice.
Or, y'know, just upgrade to SS3 in the forseable future?
This is going to sound ignorant because it is ... would it be feasible to move the current squeaksource.com repository onto SS3 and keep it running as if (from the user point of view) nothing had happened?
My goal for squeaksource.com is to keep it reliable and available as a resource to the community. I updated it to match the code base for source.squeak.org for that reason only. If the repository could be moved to SS3 to provide a more reliable system, that might be a very good thing.
The only thing from my personal point of view is that I cannot put a great deal of time into development or changes to the system. I just want squeaksource.com to work and be reliable, that is all.
Dave