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From: abuse@hetzner.de Date: October 19, 2010 11:47:27 AM GMT+02:00 To: marcus.denker@inria.fr Subject: Re: Abuse Message [AbuseID:02447C:17]: AbuseNormal: [SpamCop (85.10.195.197) id:5258888796]failure notice Reply-To: abuse@hetzner.de
Hi Marcus,
this is the original complaint:
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Your Federal Tax Payment ID: 01037598891 has been rejected. Please, check the information and refer to Code R21 to get details about your company payment in transaction contacts section: http://eftps.gov/R21 <font color="#FFFFFF">89148876774920317850 Return Reason Code R21 - The identification number used in the Company Identification Field is not valid. In other way forward information to your accountant adviser. EFTPS: The Electronic Federal Tax Payment System <font color="#FFFFFF">35953856378984600553
WARNING!You are using an Official United States Government System, which may be used only for authorized purposes. Unauthorized modification of any information stored on this system may result in criminal prosecution. The Government may monitor and audit the usage of this system, and all persons are hereby notified that the use of this system constitutes consent to such monitoring and auditing. Unauthorized attempts to upload information and/or change information on this web site are strictly prohibited and are subject to prosecution under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986 and Title 18 U.S.C. Sec. 1001 and 1030.
8597776698875034702600795541278039205310<font color="#FFFFFF">Thomas married (2) Nancy B. .She was born about 1829. <font color="#FFFFFF">all three are known, they will appear as City, County, State. If just the city and state are known, the <font color="#FFFFFF">m ii. William Dorough Adallis, born 25 Aug 1966. William married Linda Wilkerson 4 Dec 1995. "
However we have already closed this ticket, so there's no need for you to take any action anymore.
Important note: When you reply to us, please leave the abuse ID [AbuseID:02447C:17] unchanged in the subject line.
Best Regards,
Sandra Kreidl
Hetzner Online AG Stuttgarter StraÃe 1 91710 Gunzenhausen
Tel: +49 [0] 9831 61006-1 Fax: +49 [0] 9831 61006-2 abuse@hetzner.de www.hetzner.de
Register Court: Registergericht Ansbach, HRB 3204 Management Board: Dipl. Ing. (FH) Martin Hetzner Chairwoman of the Supervisory Board: Diana Rothhan
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Hello,
This is the first email we get for this incident. We had no prior knowledge (so we could not even try to solve any problem).
In addition, it is completely unclear what problem you are actually talking about.The subject says something about SpamCop? We checked, and we are not listed there.
I would be nice to get some more information what exactly we are supposed to do.
Marcus
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:52 PM, abuse@hetzner.de wrote:
Dear Mr Marcus Denker,
As you could not solve the problem within the given time or the maximum number of tests, the ticket will be forwarded for manual testing to our technician who coordinate further proceeding.
If we have received many complaints the situation can be lead to a server blocking.
Important note: When you reply to us, please leave the abuse ID [AbuseID:02447C:17] unchanged in the subject line.
Best Regards,
Hetzner-Support
Hetzner Online AG Grünberger Str. 27 90475 Nuremberg Tel: +49 [0] 911 234226-927 Fax: +49 [0] 9831 61006-2 abuse@hetzner.de www.hetzner.de
Register Court: Registergericht Ansbach, HRB 3204 Management Board: Dipl. Ing. (FH) Martin Hetzner Chairwoman of the Supervisory Board: Diana Rothhan
--
Marcus Denker -- denker@acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de
-- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.
Thanks,
The message SpamCop lists is simply an error message reporting that a received message cannot be delivered. The received message was spam and it could not be delivered because it was not sent from a subscriber. In fact the original message sent was spam itself. The message we sent was not spam but just a 'not deliverable' error and I pointed this out to SpamCop in the available method which was to pick 'Not Spam' from a list of three choices.
This is all rather silly. Does this mean I have to force all of our mailing list administrators to silently discard every undeliverable message? Most are configured that way already but I've largely left it up to the individual mailing list administrators although I have repeatedly suggested that they not choose to 'bounce' (reply that the message will not be delivered) but instead simply discard the messages (do not send, do not reply).
Ken
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 12:11 +0200, Marcus Denker wrote:
Begin forwarded message:
From: abuse@hetzner.de Date: October 19, 2010 11:47:27 AM GMT+02:00 To: marcus.denker@inria.fr Subject: Re: Abuse Message [AbuseID:02447C:17]: AbuseNormal: [SpamCop (85.10.195.197) id:5258888796]failure notice Reply-To: abuse@hetzner.de
Hi Marcus,
this is the original complaint:
"[ SpamCop V4.6.1.006 ] This message is brief for your comfort. Please use links below for details.
Unsolicited bounce from: 85.10.195.197 http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?i=z5258888796z46020b5c190b38d78557a27685aade6cz 85.10.195.197 appears to be sending unsolicited bounces, please see: http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/329.html
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Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16485 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2010 15:58:19 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?217.118.82.111?) (217.118.82.111) by box2.squeakfoundation.org with SMTP; 15 Oct 2010 15:58:19 +0000 Received: from 217.118.82.111 by mx.spamcop.net; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 18:58:17 +0300 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 18:58:17 +0300 From: "EFTPS Tax Payment" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.71.14) Educational Reply-To: x X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: To: Subject: Your Federal Tax Payment ID 0103578561 is rejected. Urgent Report. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Your Federal Tax Payment ID: 01037598891 has been rejected. Please, check the information and refer to Code R21 to get details about your company payment in transaction contacts section: http://eftps.gov/R21 <font color="#FFFFFF">89148876774920317850 Return Reason Code R21 - The identification number used in the Company Identification Field is not valid. In other way forward information to your accountant adviser. EFTPS: The Electronic Federal Tax Payment System <font color="#FFFFFF">35953856378984600553
WARNING!You are using an Official United States Government System, which may be used only for authorized purposes. Unauthorized modification of any information stored on this system may result in criminal prosecution. The Government may monitor and audit the usage of this system, and all persons are hereby notified that the use of this system constitutes consent to such monitoring and auditing. Unauthorized attempts to upload information and/or change information on this web site are strictly prohibited and are subject to prosecution under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986 and Title 18 U.S.C. Sec. 1001 and 1030.
8597776698875034702600795541278039205310<font color="#FFFFFF">Thomas married (2) Nancy B. .She was born about 1829. <font color="#FFFFFF">all three are known, they will appear as City, County, State. If just the city and state are known, the <font color="#FFFFFF">m ii. William Dorough Adallis, born 25 Aug 1966. William married Linda Wilkerson 4 Dec 1995. "
However we have already closed this ticket, so there's no need for you to take any action anymore.
Important note: When you reply to us, please leave the abuse ID [AbuseID:02447C:17] unchanged in the subject line.
Best Regards,
Sandra Kreidl
Hetzner Online AG Stuttgarter StraÃe 1 91710 Gunzenhausen
Tel: +49 [0] 9831 61006-1 Fax: +49 [0] 9831 61006-2 abuse@hetzner.de www.hetzner.de
Register Court: Registergericht Ansbach, HRB 3204 Management Board: Dipl. Ing. (FH) Martin Hetzner Chairwoman of the Supervisory Board: Diana Rothhan
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Hello,
This is the first email we get for this incident. We had no prior knowledge (so we could not even try to solve any problem).
In addition, it is completely unclear what problem you are actually talking about.The subject says something about SpamCop? We checked, and we are not listed there.
I would be nice to get some more information what exactly we are supposed to do.
Marcus
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:52 PM, abuse@hetzner.de wrote:
Dear Mr Marcus Denker,
As you could not solve the problem within the given time or the maximum number of tests, the ticket will be forwarded for manual testing to our technician who coordinate further proceeding.
If we have received many complaints the situation can be lead to a server blocking.
Important note: When you reply to us, please leave the abuse ID [AbuseID:02447C:17] unchanged in the subject line.
Best Regards,
Hetzner-Support
Hetzner Online AG Grünberger Str. 27 90475 Nuremberg Tel: +49 [0] 911 234226-927 Fax: +49 [0] 9831 61006-2 abuse@hetzner.de www.hetzner.de
Register Court: Registergericht Ansbach, HRB 3204 Management Board: Dipl. Ing. (FH) Martin Hetzner Chairwoman of the Supervisory Board: Diana Rothhan
--
Marcus Denker -- denker@acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de
-- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.
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