Hi, sorry for the delay.
I just came back from Montevideo for Ceibal Virtual Educa. It was a great event. And today before leaving to Buenos Aires we went to a school fair where children of 8 and 9 years old showed the work they did with the XOs. It was great! There were some animated short stories, kids making music, comics, animations, and a lot of presentations about different subjects. One kid showed me how to make a bar graph in Etoys. It was so cool! :)
I noticed, however, that most of the kids use Etoys merely as some sort of enhanced powerpoint but few of them actually see its potential for simulations and programming (they use Scratch or TurtleArt for that). I know that my sensation after seeing just a couple of students doesn't count as valid statistics, and I also know that there have been a lot of discussions about this in the list, but I can't help thinking something is wrong and I wanted to share it.
Anyway, coming back to the subject of this mail, regarding my changes of Skeleton: yes, I used the same code from GSoC except for the CSV parser which is now much better.
Regarding charts, calendar and graphics I/O: I will fix the number lines with the suggestions from you and steve and then I'll make a project with everything included. Or do you mean a whole new version of Etoys?
Cheers, Richo
On Thursday, October 27, 2011, Randall Caton rcaton@cnu.edu wrote:
Ricardo,
I looked at your project with skeleton and on the surface it is the same
as what your wrote for GSoC. Either would be great with me. I couldn't evaluate which underlying code is better.
Exactly, I used the same code except for the CSV parser which is now much better.
I would also like to see your chart, calendar and graphics IO objects
included. Would it be possible for you to make a version of Etoys that has all those in it so we could test it on the XO?
Cheers, Richo
Thank you for continuing your great work.
Randy
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Ricardo Moran richi.moran@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi guys, I haven't received any response from Avi Bryant regarding the
license of his csv parser, probably because I might have an old/incorrect mail. But anyway, it doesn't matter, because it's easy to write one. So I uploaded a new version of Skeleton with my little csv parser and I moved the CSV package to treated.
I think this version is good enough to be integrated in Etoys, what do you
think?
Cheers, Richo P.S. I attached a simple project in order to help educators test it
without going through Monticello :)
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Ricardo Moran richi.moran@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 9:38 PM, karl ramberg karlramberg@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Ricardo Moran richi.moran@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi, I uploaded to the inbox a version of Skeleton with a few changes of mine that allows you to use a spreadsheet just as you would use mine to import/export data and iterate over its contents. I also commited a version of the CSV package, which I use to do the importing. However, I didn't remember to look at the license of the
package
before clicking commit and now that I did, I see it doesn't specify MIT,
so
I'll ask the author about it (please forgive me and remove the commit if
it
can be a problem). Anyway, if you can please tell me what you think. Cheers, Richo
That is CSV Parser from SqueakSource right ? I don't see a licence anywhere ... Can you mail Avi Bryant and ask ?
Yes, I did. I'm waiting for an answer now... Richo
Karl
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:28 PM, karl ramberg karlramberg@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Randy Caton rcaton@cnu.edu wrote:
I like the spreadsheet that Ricardo created because it is simple and basic and allows I/O. It leaves more for learners to create. Couldn't the functions already in etoys be used in the cells? Does Skeleton allow plots? If so, then what about Ricardo's graphs? I'd like to see them in etoys also. Randy
Hi I think it is possible to make all these graphs out of skeleton. From what I see is Skeleton a extension to the way we script and visualize in Etoys, It seems to have a thought out model.
Only working with it and managing the code will tell if it something we find useful and worth while.
Karl
Randall Caton 41596 Bald Eagle Drive Bigfork, MN 56628 218-832-3490 http://www.pcs.cnu.edu/~rcaton Sent from my iPhone On Oct 11, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Ricardo Moran richi.moran@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 11, 201
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