Hi All,
There are currently two DNS servers for squeak.org. One of them (the master) is hosted on box2, and it's working fine. But the other one is down, and we have no direct control over it. This may affect all of our services (slower access, or even temporary outages). It would be good to find out who is hosting it.
name: b.ns.squeakfoundation.org address: 69.72.148.198
Levente
Without thinking about it, I propose that it’s Cees de Groot. ( I’ve cc’d Cees. If it’s not you, Cees, I apologize in advance. ) I say this based on two past experiences. The first was several years ago he made a change to something he was doing and it hammered our DNS for as long as it took for us to contact him. I think it was because he was on GoDaddy and was protesting GoDaddy for some reason and was moving to Gandi. It was something like that. The second is I recall Ken giving me a lecture about the old days, people providing reciprocal slave box service, etc, etc. I was asking about material in box2 I didn’t understand, and I got a lecture, he mentioned Cees use to be the slave DNS for Squeak. Useful now I guess. He may have moved his homepage http://www.cdegroot.com http://www.cdegroot.com/ recently.
Chris
On Nov 25, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Levente Uzonyi leves@elte.hu wrote:
Hi All,
There are currently two DNS servers for squeak.org. One of them (the master) is hosted on box2, and it's working fine. But the other one is down, and we have no direct control over it. This may affect all of our services (slower access, or even temporary outages). It would be good to find out who is hosting it.
name: b.ns.squeakfoundation.org address: 69.72.148.198
Levente
I wish I could help here (well I always can of course ;-)), but it wasn’t me. No need to apologize though, Chris :)
Looking up the NS for Squeak.org http://squeak.org/:
squeak.org. 259200 IN NS a.ns.squeakfoundation.org. squeak.org. 259200 IN NS b.ns.squeakfoundation.org.
And then to IP addresses:
a.ns.squeakfoundation.org has address 85.10.195.197 b.ns.squeakfoundation.org has address 69.72.148.198
The next step is grab whois data for these IPs. The first one is active at Hetzner:
inetnum: 85.10.192.0 - 85.10.207.255 netname: HETZNER-RZ-NBG-NET descr: Hetzner Online AG descr: Datacenter Nuernberg
but the second one points to Nirvana. Strange but true, that IP doesn’t seem to be allocated (an enclosing block is allocated, but that’s all):
FortressITX FORTRESSITX (NET-69-72-128-0-1) 69.72.128.0 - 69.72.255.255
I guess that someone (and yes, that might very well have been, unknowingly, me ;-)) ran an NS on an ISP that went out of business, and thus the IP block came back for reallocation. As I still own squeakfoundation.org http://squeakfoundation.org/, I can repoint that. If anyone knows a spot where we can setup secondary DNS, preferably for free, ping me. Else, I’ll do some digging around to see where I can park it. I will probably need access to the primary DNS (do we still have a Hetzner host), will shout for help :-)
Regarding Gandi/GoDaddy - GoDaddy did something to piss me, and a lot of other netizens, off. And I was annoyed with them anyway :-). So I moved everything to Gandi, happy ever after.
On 25Nov, 2014, at 11:27, Chris Cunnington brasspen@gmail.com wrote:
Without thinking about it, I propose that it’s Cees de Groot. ( I’ve cc’d Cees. If it’s not you, Cees, I apologize in advance. ) I say this based on two past experiences. The first was several years ago he made a change to something he was doing and it hammered our DNS for as long as it took for us to contact him. I think it was because he was on GoDaddy and was protesting GoDaddy for some reason and was moving to Gandi. It was something like that. The second is I recall Ken giving me a lecture about the old days, people providing reciprocal slave box service, etc, etc. I was asking about material in box2 I didn’t understand, and I got a lecture, he mentioned Cees use to be the slave DNS for Squeak. Useful now I guess. He may have moved his homepage http://www.cdegroot.com http://www.cdegroot.com/ recently.
Chris
On Nov 25, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Levente Uzonyi <leves@elte.hu mailto:leves@elte.hu> wrote:
Hi All,
There are currently two DNS servers for squeak.org http://squeak.org/. One of them (the master) is hosted on box2, and it's working fine. But the other one is down, and we have no direct control over it. This may affect all of our services (slower access, or even temporary outages). It would be good to find out who is hosting it.
name: b.ns.squeakfoundation.org http://b.ns.squeakfoundation.org/ address: 69.72.148.198
Levente
On 26.11.2014, at 00:36, Case de Groot cg@cdegroot.com wrote:
I wish I could help here (well I always can of course ;-)), but it wasn’t me. No need to apologize though, Chris :)
Looking up the NS for Squeak.org:
squeak.org. 259200 IN NS a.ns.squeakfoundation.org. squeak.org. 259200 IN NS b.ns.squeakfoundation.org.
And then to IP addresses:
a.ns.squeakfoundation.org has address 85.10.195.197 b.ns.squeakfoundation.org has address 69.72.148.198
The next step is grab whois data for these IPs. The first one is active at Hetzner:
inetnum: 85.10.192.0 - 85.10.207.255 netname: HETZNER-RZ-NBG-NET descr: Hetzner Online AG descr: Datacenter Nuernberg
but the second one points to Nirvana. Strange but true, that IP doesn’t seem to be allocated (an enclosing block is allocated, but that’s all):
FortressITX FORTRESSITX (NET-69-72-128-0-1) 69.72.128.0 - 69.72.255.255
I guess that someone (and yes, that might very well have been, unknowingly, me ;-)) ran an NS on an ISP that went out of business, and thus the IP block came back for reallocation. As I still own squeakfoundation.org, I can repoint that. If anyone knows a spot where we can setup secondary DNS, preferably for free, ping me. Else, I’ll do some digging around to see where I can park it. I will probably need access to the primary DNS (do we still have a Hetzner host), will shout for help :-)
I could probably provide a slave dns.
Best -Tobias
On 25Nov, 2014, at 18:38, Tobias Pape Das.Linux@gmx.de wrote: I could probably provide a slave dns.
Well, if you can set one up, all I need to know is the IP address.
Note: more is better. So if we can run a couple of slaves, then whenever one drops out, the zone won’t be running without redundancy.
Best,
Cees
Hi Cees,
I finally managed to set up the DNS servers, so I'd like to ask you to update the addresses. This is what we have now:
a.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 85.10.195.197 b.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 173.246.101.237 c.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 173.246.104.42 d.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 146.185.151.211
box2 (85.10.195.197) is down at the moment, but I hope it can be used again, so I kept it on the list.
Levente
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014, Case de Groot wrote:
On 25Nov, 2014, at 18:38, Tobias Pape Das.Linux@gmx.de wrote: I could probably provide a slave dns.
Well, if you can set one up, all I need to know is the IP address.
Note: more is better. So if we can run a couple of slaves, then whenever one drops out, the zone won’t be running without redundancy.
Best,
Cees
All in progress, should be visible in <insert random delay here> :-)
On 3Jan, 2015, at 08:17, Levente Uzonyi leves@elte.hu wrote:
Hi Cees,
I finally managed to set up the DNS servers, so I'd like to ask you to update the addresses. This is what we have now:
a.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 85.10.195.197 b.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 173.246.101.237 c.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 173.246.104.42 d.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 146.185.151.211
box2 (85.10.195.197) is down at the moment, but I hope it can be used again, so I kept it on the list.
Levente
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014, Case de Groot wrote:
On 25Nov, 2014, at 18:38, Tobias Pape Das.Linux@gmx.de wrote: I could probably provide a slave dns.
Well, if you can set one up, all I need to know is the IP address.
Note: more is better. So if we can run a couple of slaves, then whenever one drops out, the zone won’t be running without redundancy.
Best,
Cees
Hi Cees,
Thanks you. The server list has already been updated here. In less than a day everyone should be able to use them.
Levente
On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Case de Groot wrote:
All in progress, should be visible in <insert random delay here> :-)
On 3Jan, 2015, at 08:17, Levente Uzonyi leves@elte.hu wrote:
Hi Cees,
I finally managed to set up the DNS servers, so I'd like to ask you to update the addresses. This is what we have now:
a.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 85.10.195.197 b.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 173.246.101.237 c.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 173.246.104.42 d.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 146.185.151.211
box2 (85.10.195.197) is down at the moment, but I hope it can be used again, so I kept it on the list.
Levente
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014, Case de Groot wrote:
On 25Nov, 2014, at 18:38, Tobias Pape Das.Linux@gmx.de wrote: I could probably provide a slave dns.
Well, if you can set one up, all I need to know is the IP address.
Note: more is better. So if we can run a couple of slaves, then whenever one drops out, the zone won’t be running without redundancy.
Best,
Cees
Hi Cees,
It turned out that box2 can't be resurrected, so please remove its record from the list. After the removal the list should be
b.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 173.246.101.237 c.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 173.246.104.42 d.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 146.185.151.211
TIA, Levente
On Sat, 3 Jan 2015, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
Hi Cees,
I finally managed to set up the DNS servers, so I'd like to ask you to update the addresses. This is what we have now:
a.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 85.10.195.197 b.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 173.246.101.237 c.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 173.246.104.42 d.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 146.185.151.211
box2 (85.10.195.197) is down at the moment, but I hope it can be used again, so I kept it on the list.
Levente
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014, Case de Groot wrote:
On 25Nov, 2014, at 18:38, Tobias Pape Das.Linux@gmx.de wrote: I could probably provide a slave dns.
Well, if you can set one up, all I need to know is the IP address.
Note: more is better. So if we can run a couple of slaves, then whenever one drops out, the zone won’t be running without redundancy.
Best,
Cees
All done.
Best,
Cees
On 7Jan, 2015, at 14:20, Levente Uzonyi leves@elte.hu wrote:
Hi Cees,
It turned out that box2 can't be resurrected, so please remove its record from the list. After the removal the list should be
b.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 173.246.101.237 c.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 173.246.104.42 d.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 146.185.151.211
TIA, Levente
On Sat, 3 Jan 2015, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
Hi Cees,
I finally managed to set up the DNS servers, so I'd like to ask you to update the addresses. This is what we have now:
a.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 85.10.195.197 b.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 173.246.101.237 c.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 173.246.104.42 d.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 146.185.151.211
box2 (85.10.195.197) is down at the moment, but I hope it can be used again, so I kept it on the list.
Levente
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014, Case de Groot wrote:
On 25Nov, 2014, at 18:38, Tobias Pape Das.Linux@gmx.de wrote: I could probably provide a slave dns.
Well, if you can set one up, all I need to know is the IP address. Note: more is better. So if we can run a couple of slaves, then whenever one drops out, the zone won’t be running without redundancy. Best, Cees
Thanks again, Cees!
Levente
On Wed, 7 Jan 2015, Case de Groot wrote:
All done.
Best,
Cees
On 7Jan, 2015, at 14:20, Levente Uzonyi leves@elte.hu wrote:
Hi Cees,
It turned out that box2 can't be resurrected, so please remove its record from the list. After the removal the list should be
b.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 173.246.101.237 c.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 173.246.104.42 d.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 146.185.151.211
TIA, Levente
On Sat, 3 Jan 2015, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
Hi Cees,
I finally managed to set up the DNS servers, so I'd like to ask you to update the addresses. This is what we have now:
a.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 85.10.195.197 b.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 173.246.101.237 c.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 173.246.104.42 d.ns.squeakfoundation.org. 259200 IN A 146.185.151.211
box2 (85.10.195.197) is down at the moment, but I hope it can be used again, so I kept it on the list.
Levente
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014, Case de Groot wrote:
On 25Nov, 2014, at 18:38, Tobias Pape Das.Linux@gmx.de wrote: I could probably provide a slave dns.
Well, if you can set one up, all I need to know is the IP address. Note: more is better. So if we can run a couple of slaves, then whenever one drops out, the zone won’t be running without redundancy. Best, Cees
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014, Tobias Pape wrote:
On 26.11.2014, at 00:36, Case de Groot cg@cdegroot.com wrote:
I wish I could help here (well I always can of course ;-)), but it wasn’t me. No need to apologize though, Chris :)
Looking up the NS for Squeak.org:
squeak.org. 259200 IN NS a.ns.squeakfoundation.org. squeak.org. 259200 IN NS b.ns.squeakfoundation.org.
And then to IP addresses:
a.ns.squeakfoundation.org has address 85.10.195.197 b.ns.squeakfoundation.org has address 69.72.148.198
The next step is grab whois data for these IPs. The first one is active at Hetzner:
inetnum: 85.10.192.0 - 85.10.207.255 netname: HETZNER-RZ-NBG-NET descr: Hetzner Online AG descr: Datacenter Nuernberg
but the second one points to Nirvana. Strange but true, that IP doesn’t seem to be allocated (an enclosing block is allocated, but that’s all):
FortressITX FORTRESSITX (NET-69-72-128-0-1) 69.72.128.0 - 69.72.255.255
I guess that someone (and yes, that might very well have been, unknowingly, me ;-)) ran an NS on an ISP that went out of business, and thus the IP block came back for reallocation. As I still own squeakfoundation.org, I can repoint that. If anyone knows a spot where we can setup secondary DNS, preferably for free, ping me. Else, I’ll do some digging around to see where I can park it. I will probably need access to the primary DNS (do we still have a Hetzner host), will shout for help :-)
I could probably provide a slave dns.
Both box3.squeak.org and box4.squeak.org have a DNS server installed, but they are not synchonized with box2 (our primary name server). The plan was to host the two DNS servers on box3 and box4 (box4 as primary I guess), but I suspect that they are both in the same data center, so we could use a third server somewhere else.
Levente
Best -Tobias
On 26.11.2014, at 00:46, Levente Uzonyi leves@elte.hu wrote:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014, Tobias Pape wrote:
On 26.11.2014, at 00:36, Case de Groot cg@cdegroot.com wrote:
I wish I could help here (well I always can of course ;-)), but it wasn’t me. No need to apologize though, Chris :)
Looking up the NS for Squeak.org:
squeak.org. 259200 IN NS a.ns.squeakfoundation.org. squeak.org. 259200 IN NS b.ns.squeakfoundation.org.
And then to IP addresses:
a.ns.squeakfoundation.org has address 85.10.195.197 b.ns.squeakfoundation.org has address 69.72.148.198
The next step is grab whois data for these IPs. The first one is active at Hetzner:
inetnum: 85.10.192.0 - 85.10.207.255 netname: HETZNER-RZ-NBG-NET descr: Hetzner Online AG descr: Datacenter Nuernberg
but the second one points to Nirvana. Strange but true, that IP doesn’t seem to be allocated (an enclosing block is allocated, but that’s all):
FortressITX FORTRESSITX (NET-69-72-128-0-1) 69.72.128.0 - 69.72.255.255
I guess that someone (and yes, that might very well have been, unknowingly, me ;-)) ran an NS on an ISP that went out of business, and thus the IP block came back for reallocation. As I still own squeakfoundation.org, I can repoint that. If anyone knows a spot where we can setup secondary DNS, preferably for free, ping me. Else, I’ll do some digging around to see where I can park it. I will probably need access to the primary DNS (do we still have a Hetzner host), will shout for help :-)
I could probably provide a slave dns.
Both box3.squeak.org and box4.squeak.org have a DNS server installed, but they are not synchonized with box2 (our primary name server). The plan was to host the two DNS servers on box3 and box4 (box4 as primary I guess), but I suspect that they are both in the same data center, so we could use a third server somewhere else.
Also, I don't know whether this hold for .org, but for .de, the IPs for the (at least) two DNS servers have to be in different A-ranges.
Best -Tobias
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