Hi! Ok so there are a couple of questions and potential answers brewing. How to host? Where to host?
David Lewis expressed that we should recover the actual SS instance and stabilize it. This may include bringing it up to a more modern, Cog-supported Squeak image. I am working on doing this for source.squeak.org and so I hope that effort can overlap this one.
This is why I will also be pressing you with questions about latest Seaside -- right now the old SS is running on Seaside 2, not 3.
Based on this revitalization experience, we can decide whether we want to:
- make it totally read-only - give up and port it to SqueakSource3 running on GemStone.
Then there is the question of hosting. It sounds like we may have a couple of options between Robert Hirschfeld's group and the servers provided for Squeak by the SFC. Wonderful!
Until the revitalization work is done, we may just have to endure restarting it occasionally.
Everyone please chime in. Is this a good plan?
- Chris
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Pape, Tobias < Tobias.Pape@hpi.uni-potsdam.de> wrote:
Hey Chris
before getting back to Oscar, how should we proceed? The one big question probably is, where should the server be located? I bet Robert Hirschfeld would not mind hosting the server at our group, but I cannot promise that. However, he has expressed interest in it. We also should include Bert in the conversation at some point. The point why I asked Oscar is, that he will be at our site soon and could bring the data physically with him :)
Best -Tobias
PS: I received a Google Drive share invitation from you. What was the reason?
-- Tobias Pape Doktorand im Fachgebiet Software-Architekturen http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa/
Hasso-Plattner-Institut für Softwaresystemtechnik GmbH Universität Potsdam Prof.-Dr.-Helmert-Str. 2-3 D-14482 Potsdam, Germany Amtsgericht Potsdam, HRB 12184 Geschäftsführung: Prof. Dr. Christoph Meinel
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 03:18:19PM -0500, Chris Muller wrote:
Hi! Ok so there are a couple of questions and potential answers brewing. How to host? Where to host?
David Lewis expressed that we should recover the actual SS instance and stabilize it.
My immediate concern is to move the existing squeaksource.com to a new home that is stable, supportable, and sustainable for the long term. My hope is to accomplish that migration within days, not weeks. Once that has been completed, all options should be open as far as I'm concerned. But for now my only objective is to achieve operational stability and a sustainable support process for squeaksource.com.
Just to check my understanding, the reference to hosting by Robert Hirschfeld's group is for future consideration, and not something that I need to worry about to the migration plan for the next few days, is that right?
This may include bringing it up to a more modern, Cog-supported Squeak image. I am working on doing this for source.squeak.org and so I hope that effort can overlap this one.
Yes for sure, it is important to get source.squeak.org and squeaksource.com onto a common code base and support structure in order to minimize the total support requirement. One way or another, I am quite confident that this will resolve the reliability and performance problems that have plagued squeaksource in the past.
But first things first, I'm still trying to copy files, including well over 15 GB of compressed project files. Firefox says it might be done after another 23 hours and 10 minutes or so ... then I'll need a box on squeak.org to unpack them on.
Dave
This is why I will also be pressing you with questions about latest Seaside -- right now the old SS is running on Seaside 2, not 3.
Based on this revitalization experience, we can decide whether we want to:
- make it totally read-only
- give up and port it to SqueakSource3 running on GemStone.
Then there is the question of hosting. It sounds like we may have a couple of options between Robert Hirschfeld's group and the servers provided for Squeak by the SFC. Wonderful!
Until the revitalization work is done, we may just have to endure restarting it occasionally.
Everyone please chime in. Is this a good plan?
- Chris
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Pape, Tobias < Tobias.Pape@hpi.uni-potsdam.de> wrote:
Hey Chris
before getting back to Oscar, how should we proceed? The one big question probably is, where should the server be located? I bet Robert Hirschfeld would not mind hosting the server at our group, but I cannot promise that. However, he has expressed interest in it. We also should include Bert in the conversation at some point. The point why I asked Oscar is, that he will be at our site soon and could bring the data physically with him :)
Best -Tobias
PS: I received a Google Drive share invitation from you. What was the reason?
-- Tobias Pape Doktorand im Fachgebiet Software-Architekturen http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa/
Hasso-Plattner-Institut f?r Softwaresystemtechnik GmbH Universit?t Potsdam Prof.-Dr.-Helmert-Str. 2-3 D-14482 Potsdam, Germany Amtsgericht Potsdam, HRB 12184 Gesch?ftsf?hrung: Prof. Dr. Christoph Meinel
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