Hi Marcus & Ken,
sometimes Pavel & Edgar and now Ralph & Milan and my produce some collaborative traffic (and often some collaborative effort :) which we'd like to get organized and archived.
Is it possible to create the small-kernel mailing list, thank you in advance.
Pavel, you've been the motor of this small-kernel thing (not of all the previous :) can I ask you to copy & paste a list title and a narrative, thank you.
Cheers Klaus
P.S. OT: some of the messages in the box-admin list say that now Marcus is responsible, the - http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/subscribe/box-admins web pages say that box-admin is run by Ken. So I addressed both of you ;-)
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 00:50:37 +0100, Pavel Krivanek wrote:
My impression is that Nebraska should be on of the last packages that we should play with. As far as I remember this package is much worse packaged than it seems and this package is almost useless in practice.
BTW. I tired it several times but I'm not able to load your image :-( BTW2. We should start with some regular mailing list.
-- Pavel
On 11/30/06, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2001@yahoo.com.ar wrote:
FileIn this first and then Nebraska-edc.16.mcz what I put into http://www.squeaksource.com/Ladrillos , on MinimalMorphic.7213.image. No Undeclared for this "Ladrillo". Still not full functioning as some Preferences should be created first and some Fonts loaded also
All classes in this change set could go to Nebraska-Refactoring. But several same classes could be needed for load rest of Etoys.
Ideas ?
Also I communicate some experiments result.
Squeak3.9-final-7067.2.image , ripping from the top for have packages.
#('39Deprecated' 'Balloon' 'Collections' 'Compiler' 'Compression' 'EToys' 'Exceptions' 'Files' 'FixUnderscores' 'FlexibleVocabularies' 'Graphics' 'Kernel' 'Monticello' 'MonticelloConfigurations' 'Morphic' 'MorphicExtras' 'Movies' 'Multilingual' 'Nebraska' 'Network' 'PackageInfo' 'PreferenceBrowser' 'Protocols' 'ReleaseBuilder' 'ST80' 'SUnit' 'SUnitGUI' 'ScriptLoader' 'Services' 'Sound' 'System' 'SystemChangeNotification' 'ToolBuilder' 'Tools' 'Traits' 'TrueType' 'VersionNumber')
Smalltalk size 1628 Image size 12.2 mb All what you need is here
MimimalMorphic growing to Smalltalk size 1452 , no Undeclared , following brute force load from before for Etoys and Nebraska gives 10.9 mb and still no Flaps and several things missed.
Edgar
Hi,
this thread is a part of more complex conversation between us about the 3.10release. It seems that the KernelImage, MinimalMorphic and the official stream will be merged so I think that we should start with v3.10 mailing list. Special small-kernel mailing list will be then reduntant.
-- Pavel
On 12/2/06, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com wrote:
Hi Marcus & Ken,
sometimes Pavel & Edgar and now Ralph & Milan and my produce some collaborative traffic (and often some collaborative effort :) which we'd like to get organized and archived.
Is it possible to create the small-kernel mailing list, thank you in advance.
Pavel, you've been the motor of this small-kernel thing (not of all the previous :) can I ask you to copy & paste a list title and a narrative, thank you.
Cheers Klaus
P.S. OT: some of the messages in the box-admin list say that now Marcus is responsible, the
web pages say that box-admin is run by Ken. So I addressed both of you ;-)
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 00:50:37 +0100, Pavel Krivanek wrote:
My impression is that Nebraska should be on of the last packages that we should play with. As far as I remember this package is much worse packaged than it seems and this package is almost useless in practice.
BTW. I tired it several times but I'm not able to load your image :-( BTW2. We should start with some regular mailing list.
-- Pavel
On 11/30/06, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2001@yahoo.com.ar wrote:
FileIn this first and then Nebraska-edc.16.mcz what I put into http://www.squeaksource.com/Ladrillos , on MinimalMorphic.7213.image. No Undeclared for this "Ladrillo". Still not full functioning as some Preferences should be created first and some Fonts loaded also
All classes in this change set could go to Nebraska-Refactoring. But several same classes could be needed for load rest of Etoys.
Ideas ?
Also I communicate some experiments result.
Squeak3.9-final-7067.2.image , ripping from the top for have packages.
#('39Deprecated' 'Balloon' 'Collections' 'Compiler' 'Compression' 'EToys' 'Exceptions' 'Files' 'FixUnderscores' 'FlexibleVocabularies' 'Graphics' 'Kernel' 'Monticello' 'MonticelloConfigurations' 'Morphic' 'MorphicExtras' 'Movies' 'Multilingual' 'Nebraska' 'Network' 'PackageInfo' 'PreferenceBrowser' 'Protocols' 'ReleaseBuilder' 'ST80' 'SUnit' 'SUnitGUI' 'ScriptLoader' 'Services' 'Sound' 'System' 'SystemChangeNotification' 'ToolBuilder' 'Tools' 'Traits' 'TrueType' 'VersionNumber')
Smalltalk size 1628 Image size 12.2 mb All what you need is here
MimimalMorphic growing to Smalltalk size 1452 , no Undeclared , following brute force load from before for Etoys and Nebraska gives 10.9 mb and still no Flaps and several things missed.
Edgar
Hi Pavel & all,
it's (almost) always a matter of language, isn't it ;-)
Instead of "We should start with some regular mailing list.", "We should start to use regular v3.10 mailing list."
Sorry box-admins: no new list, as per Pavel's request :|
Cheers Klaus
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 10:37:08 +0100, Pavel Krivanek wrote:
Hi,
this thread is a part of more complex conversation between us about the 3.10release. It seems that the KernelImage, MinimalMorphic and the official stream will be merged so I think that we should start with v3.10 mailing list. Special small-kernel mailing list will be then reduntant.
-- Pavel
On 12/2/06, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com wrote:
Hi Marcus & Ken,
sometimes Pavel & Edgar and now Ralph & Milan and my produce some collaborative traffic (and often some collaborative effort :) which we'd like to get organized and archived.
Is it possible to create the small-kernel mailing list, thank you in advance.
Pavel, you've been the motor of this small-kernel thing (not of all the previous :) can I ask you to copy & paste a list title and a narrative, thank you.
Cheers Klaus
P.S. OT: some of the messages in the box-admin list say that now Marcus is responsible, the
web pages say that box-admin is run by Ken. So I addressed both of you ;-)
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 00:50:37 +0100, Pavel Krivanek wrote:
My impression is that Nebraska should be on of the last packages that
we
should play with. As far as I remember this package is much worse packaged than it seems and this package is almost useless in practice.
BTW. I tired it several times but I'm not able to load your image :-( BTW2. We should start with some regular mailing list.
-- Pavel
On 11/30/06, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2001@yahoo.com.ar wrote:
FileIn this first and then Nebraska-edc.16.mcz what I put into http://www.squeaksource.com/Ladrillos , on MinimalMorphic.7213.image. No Undeclared for this "Ladrillo". Still not full functioning as some Preferences should be created
first
and some Fonts loaded also
All classes in this change set could go to Nebraska-Refactoring. But several same classes could be needed for load rest of Etoys.
Ideas ?
Also I communicate some experiments result.
Squeak3.9-final-7067.2.image , ripping from the top for have
packages.
#('39Deprecated' 'Balloon' 'Collections' 'Compiler' 'Compression' 'EToys' 'Exceptions' 'Files' 'FixUnderscores' 'FlexibleVocabularies'
'Graphics'
'Kernel' 'Monticello' 'MonticelloConfigurations' 'Morphic' 'MorphicExtras' 'Movies' 'Multilingual' 'Nebraska' 'Network' 'PackageInfo' 'PreferenceBrowser' 'Protocols' 'ReleaseBuilder' 'ST80' 'SUnit' 'SUnitGUI' 'ScriptLoader' 'Services' 'Sound' 'System' 'SystemChangeNotification' 'ToolBuilder' 'Tools' 'Traits' 'TrueType' 'VersionNumber')
Smalltalk size 1628 Image size 12.2 mb All what you need is here
MimimalMorphic growing to Smalltalk size 1452 , no Undeclared , following brute force load from before for Etoys and Nebraska gives 10.9 mb and still no Flaps and several things missed.
Edgar
On 12/2/06, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com wrote:
Hi Pavel & all,
it's (almost) always a matter of language, isn't it ;-)
Instead of "We should start with some regular mailing list.", "We should start to use regular v3.10 mailing list."
Oh, this list is already established... It's very interesting that I haven't remarked it because I'm subscribed since the 18th of October ;-)))
-- Pavel
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