I downloaded cog_linux32x86_squeak.cog.spur_201609052318.tar.gz from ht tps://bintray.com/package/files/opensmalltalk/vm/cog and it is missing the vm-sound-pulse module. Is this a build issue or am I downloading from the wrong place?
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:06 AM Phil (list) pbpublist@gmail.com wrote:
I downloaded cog_linux32x86_squeak.cog.spur_201609052318.tar.gz from ht tps://bintray.com/package/files/opensmalltalk/vm/cog and it is missing the vm-sound-pulse module. Is this a build issue or am I downloading from the wrong place?
Bintray would be the right location, so I'm afraid it's a build issue. But I'm not sure why...does anyone know more about this?
On 06-09-2016, at 8:17 AM, Fabio Niephaus lists@fniephaus.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:06 AM Phil (list) pbpublist@gmail.com wrote:
I downloaded cog_linux32x86_squeak.cog.spur_201609052318.tar.gz from ht tps://bintray.com/package/files/opensmalltalk/vm/cog and it is missing the vm-sound-pulse module. Is this a build issue or am I downloading from the wrong place?
Bintray would be the right location, so I'm afraid it's a build issue. But I'm not sure why...does anyone know more about this?
Only that the pulseaudio sound thing hasn’t been included in a while. Somebody with git/svn-fu could probably work out the history.
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Two wrongs are only the beginning.
This is still an issue as of the 9/27 build. This would seem to be a configuration/build bug as it effectively means that Spur doesn't play nicely on the desktop w.r.t. sound for many Linux distros.
On Tue, 2016-09-06 at 09:20 -0700, tim Rowledge wrote:
On 06-09-2016, at 8:17 AM, Fabio Niephaus lists@fniephaus.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:06 AM Phil (list) pbpublist@gmail.com wrote:
I downloaded cog_linux32x86_squeak.cog.spur_201609052318.tar.gz from ht tps://bintray.com/package/files/opensmalltalk/vm/cog and it is missing the vm-sound-pulse module. Is this a build issue or am I downloading from the wrong place?
Bintray would be the right location, so I'm afraid it's a build issue. But I'm not sure why...does anyone know more about this?
Only that the pulseaudio sound thing hasn’t been included in a while. Somebody with git/svn-fu could probably work out the history.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Two wrongs are only the beginning.
What needs to be done to fix this? Anyone?
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 2:30 AM, Fabio Niephaus lists@fniephaus.com wrote:
What needs to be done to fix this? Anyone?
McStalker.oscogvm$ grep -Hi pulse platforms/unix/vm-sound-*/* platforms/unix/config/* platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/Makefile.inc:PLIBS=-lpulse-simple platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/acinclude.m4:AC_MSG_CHECKING([for PulseAudio]) platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/acinclude.m4:AC_TRY_COMPILE([#include <pulse/simple.h>],[(void)pa_simple_new;],[ platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/config.cmake:PLUGIN_REQUIRE_LIBRARY (PULSE pulse-simple) platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/sqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c:/* sqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c -- sound module for Pulse Audio platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/sqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c:#include <pulse/simple.h> platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/sqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c:#include <pulse/error.h> platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/sqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c:#include <pulse/gccmacro.h> platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/sqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c: /* PULSE, Simple API parameters */ platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/sqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c: printf("\nPulseAudio <option>s: <none>\n"); platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/sqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c:SqModuleDefine(sound, pulse); platforms/unix/config/configure:plugin="vm-sound-pulse" platforms/unix/config/configure:rm -f vm-sound-pulse.sub vm-sound-pulse.lib platforms/unix/config/configure:echo "$as_me:$LINENO: checking for PulseAudio" >&5 platforms/unix/config/configure:echo $ECHO_N "checking for PulseAudio... $ECHO_C" >&6 platforms/unix/config/configure:#include <pulse/simple.h>
So... I guess the /usr/include/pulse files must be there and the lib pulse-simple.a or .so must be there. Maybe someone should update build.linux*/HowToBuild with instructions on how to install pulse development support.
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On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 10:35 PM Phil (list) pbpublist@gmail.com wrote:
This is still an issue as of the 9/27 build. This would seem to be a configuration/build bug as it effectively means that Spur doesn't play nicely on the desktop w.r.t. sound for many Linux distros.
On Tue, 2016-09-06 at 09:20 -0700, tim Rowledge wrote:
On 06-09-2016, at 8:17 AM, Fabio Niephaus lists@fniephaus.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:06 AM Phil (list) pbpublist@gmail.com wrote:
I downloaded cog_linux32x86_squeak.cog.spur_201609052318.tar.gz from ht tps://bintray.com/package/files/opensmalltalk/vm/cog and it is missing the vm-sound-pulse module. Is this a build issue or am I downloading from the wrong place?
Bintray would be the right location, so I'm afraid it's a build issue. But I'm not sure why...does anyone know more about this?
Only that the pulseaudio sound thing hasn’t been included in a while. Somebody with git/svn-fu could probably work out the history.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Two wrongs are only the beginning.
On 14-10-2016, at 10:23 AM, Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda@gmail.com wrote: [snip] So... I guess the /usr/include/pulse files must be there and the lib pulse-simple.a or .so must be there. Maybe someone should update build.linux*/HowToBuild with instructions on how to install pulse development support.
Just for fun I did an apt-get of libpulse… something or other on one of the Pi’s and tried a compile. It was a bit odd in that the pulseaudio stuff was built and even (kinda) works and yet in the config log etc there is no mention at all of it …
So, the build looks like it is probably ok but the code may have some issues. The symptom I recall is that the first few attempts at making noises works and then it gets poor quality and then stops altogether.
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Strange OpCodes: CAO: Compare Apples to Oranges
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On 31-12-2016, at 5:37 PM, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
On 14-10-2016, at 10:23 AM, Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda@gmail.com wrote: [snip] So... I guess the /usr/include/pulse files must be there and the lib pulse-simple.a or .so must be there. Maybe someone should update build.linux*/HowToBuild with instructions on how to install pulse development support.
Just for fun I did an apt-get of libpulse… something or other on one of the Pi’s and tried a compile. It was a bit odd in that the pulseaudio stuff was built and even (kinda) works and yet in the config log etc there is no mention at all of it …
So, the build looks like it is probably ok but the code may have some issues. The symptom I recall is that the first few attempts at making noises works and then it gets poor quality and then stops altogether.
I can play quite a few sounds with no problem and then after a while (*possibly* related to pressing keys at just the wrong time?) no sound but the system is otherwise OK. Then after a while it locks up the VM completely.
Turning on debugging printfs in the vm-sound-pulse/SqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c file provides a minimally interesting log that finally reports DBG: sqUnixSoundMaemo: >sound_Stop() (11, Resource temporarily unavailable) though one must note that this DBG comes at the beginning of the routine and thus seems to require errno to have been set non-0 just before. Attempts at asking Lt.Cmdr.Google for suggested pages mostly implied that that error message is rather annoyingly generic, though plenty of people seem to have seen it because of pulse audio problems.
Pointers to actually meaningful references would be appreciated.
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Strange OpCodes: NNI: Neglect Next Instruction
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 6:02 PM, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
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On 31-12-2016, at 5:37 PM, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
On 14-10-2016, at 10:23 AM, Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda@gmail.com
wrote:
[snip] So... I guess the /usr/include/pulse files must be there and the lib
pulse-simple.a or .so must be there. Maybe someone should update build.linux*/HowToBuild with instructions on how to install pulse development support.
Just for fun I did an apt-get of libpulse… something or other on one of
the Pi’s and tried a compile. It was a bit odd in that the pulseaudio stuff was built and even (kinda) works and yet in the config log etc there is no mention at all of it …
So, the build looks like it is probably ok but the code may have some
issues. The symptom I recall is that the first few attempts at making noises works and then it gets poor quality and then stops altogether.
I can play quite a few sounds with no problem and then after a while (*possibly* related to pressing keys at just the wrong time?) no sound but the system is otherwise OK. Then after a while it locks up the VM completely.
Turning on debugging printfs in the vm-sound-pulse/SqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c file provides a minimally interesting log that finally reports DBG: sqUnixSoundMaemo: >sound_Stop() (11, Resource temporarily unavailable) though one must note that this DBG comes at the beginning of the routine and thus seems to require errno to have been set non-0 just before. Attempts at asking Lt.Cmdr.Google for suggested pages mostly implied that that error message is rather annoyingly generic, though plenty of people seem to have seen it because of pulse audio problems.
Pointers to actually meaningful references would be appreciated.
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tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Strange OpCodes: NNI: Neglect Next Instruction
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On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 2:30 AM, Fabio Niephaus lists@fniephaus.com wrote:
What needs to be done to fix this? Anyone?
McStalker.oscogvm$ grep -Hi pulse platforms/unix/vm-sound-*/* platforms/unix/config/* platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/Makefile.inc:PLIBS=-lpulse-simple platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/acinclude.m4:AC_MSG_CHECKING([for PulseAudio]) platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/acinclude.m4:AC_TRY_COMPILE([#include <pulse/simple.h>],[(void)pa_simple_new;],[ platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/config.cmake:PLUGIN_REQUIRE_LIBRARY (PULSE pulse-simple) platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/sqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c:/* sqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c -- sound module for Pulse Audio platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/sqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c:#include <pulse/simple.h> platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/sqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c:#include <pulse/error.h> platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/sqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c:#include <pulse/gccmacro.h> platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/sqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c: /* PULSE, Simple API parameters */ platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/sqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c: printf("\nPulseAudio <option>s: <none>\n"); platforms/unix/vm-sound-pulse/sqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c:SqModuleDefine(sound, pulse); platforms/unix/config/configure:plugin="vm-sound-pulse" platforms/unix/config/configure:rm -f vm-sound-pulse.sub vm-sound-pulse.lib platforms/unix/config/configure:echo "$as_me:$LINENO: checking for PulseAudio" >&5 platforms/unix/config/configure:echo $ECHO_N "checking for PulseAudio... $ECHO_C" >&6 platforms/unix/config/configure:#include <pulse/simple.h>
So... I guess the /usr/include/pulse files must be there and the /usr/lib/libpulse-simple.a or .so must be there. Maybe someone should update build.linux*/HowToBuild with instructions on how to install pulse development support.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 10:35 PM Phil (list) pbpublist@gmail.com wrote:
This is still an issue as of the 9/27 build. This would seem to be a configuration/build bug as it effectively means that Spur doesn't play nicely on the desktop w.r.t. sound for many Linux distros.
On Tue, 2016-09-06 at 09:20 -0700, tim Rowledge wrote:
On 06-09-2016, at 8:17 AM, Fabio Niephaus lists@fniephaus.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:06 AM Phil (list) pbpublist@gmail.com wrote:
I downloaded cog_linux32x86_squeak.cog.spur_201609052318.tar.gz from ht tps://bintray.com/package/files/opensmalltalk/vm/cog and it is missing the vm-sound-pulse module. Is this a build issue or am I downloading from the wrong place?
Bintray would be the right location, so I'm afraid it's a build issue. But I'm not sure why...does anyone know more about this?
Only that the pulseaudio sound thing hasn’t been included in a while. Somebody with git/svn-fu could probably work out the history.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Two wrongs are only the beginning.
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