Dear Squeakers,
Demo of new squeak.org on http://squeaksite.aidaweb.si:9000 has now also more public editing rights. Just login as:
demo/demo
...and you should have Edit link up-right or edit icon below central text. Clicking on it should open a WYSIWYG editor of content.
If you'll got a message "Please wait, page is currently locked by user: Demo user", then someone else is just editing that page. Wait for message: "Page is now released and ready to edit" or go back and select other page and try editing it.. Also, editing on IE6 is not supported yet, while IE7 is.
Try also uploading some image in below box, then simply drag it into the text and resize it by dragging borders. Simply isn't it?
That's it, I think you can now see how easy is to maintain Scribo based website and therefore I think it will also be easy to delegate some maintenance duties to broader public. Of course there are still other things to finish like RSS reader etc etc, soon, a day or two...
I hope that now you are convinced that with Aida/Scribo and vibrant community behind which is able to deliver, a Squeak website would be in safe hands and that you'll accept my offer.
Best regards Janko
Janko Mivšek wrote:
Dear Squeakers,
As promised I prepared a demo of current Squeak website migrated to Aida/Scribo CMS. I migrated both design and first level of content to show, how flexible is Scribo in dealing with both different design and things like Url format in case of SmallWiki. You can see demo here:
http://squeaksite.aidaweb.si:9000Demo is actually pretty complete, what is still missing is a dynamic tree menu on the left (currently is static) and some other minor things. In any case with this demo I convinced even myself that moving Squeak website is definitively possible and it will open further improvements on content, spreading authoring to more people, adding more dynamic content, etc etc.
I hope that you are now a bit more convinced that two days ago...:)
Best regards Janko
Looks good. The editing looks familiar with the common widgets from editors and powerful enough for the needs of the Squeak web site. I have a few questions: Do you have external persistency so we can save space on the server ? How is content in the side boxes edited ? Is the interface translated ?
Karl
Janko Mivšek wrote:
Dear Squeakers,
Demo of new squeak.org on http://squeaksite.aidaweb.si:9000 has now also more public editing rights. Just login as:
demo/demo...and you should have Edit link up-right or edit icon below central text. Clicking on it should open a WYSIWYG editor of content.
If you'll got a message "Please wait, page is currently locked by user: Demo user", then someone else is just editing that page. Wait for message: "Page is now released and ready to edit" or go back and select other page and try editing it.. Also, editing on IE6 is not supported yet, while IE7 is.
Try also uploading some image in below box, then simply drag it into the text and resize it by dragging borders. Simply isn't it?
That's it, I think you can now see how easy is to maintain Scribo based website and therefore I think it will also be easy to delegate some maintenance duties to broader public. Of course there are still other things to finish like RSS reader etc etc, soon, a day or two...
I hope that now you are convinced that with Aida/Scribo and vibrant community behind which is able to deliver, a Squeak website would be in safe hands and that you'll accept my offer.
Best regards Janko
Janko Mivšek wrote:
Dear Squeakers,
As promised I prepared a demo of current Squeak website migrated to Aida/Scribo CMS. I migrated both design and first level of content to show, how flexible is Scribo in dealing with both different design and things like Url format in case of SmallWiki. You can see demo here:
http://squeaksite.aidaweb.si:9000Demo is actually pretty complete, what is still missing is a dynamic tree menu on the left (currently is static) and some other minor things. In any case with this demo I convinced even myself that moving Squeak website is definitively possible and it will open further improvements on content, spreading authoring to more people, adding more dynamic content, etc etc.
I hope that you are now a bit more convinced that two days ago...:)
Best regards Janko
karl wrote:
Looks good. The editing looks familiar with the common widgets from editors and powerful enough for the needs of the Squeak web site.
Yes, we are using TinyMCE for editor and it is really nice.
I have a few questions: Do you have external persistency so we can save space on the server ?
For pictures currently, while other needs to be ported/supported yet. But image will also be snapshoted from time to time (probably every hour) and every day it should be backed up somewhere. But that's about 50M or so, so 2x50M=100M, that's not much? I can also provide a "disaster recovery" location for that content and we can rsync every day there.
How is content in the side boxes edited ?
Currently as pure HTML, but that needs to be yet improved. Currently only admin has edit rights for that.
Is the interface translated ?
Yes, just I need to detect language better. In an hour or so ...
Janko
Janko Mivšek wrote:
Dear Squeakers,
Demo of new squeak.org on http://squeaksite.aidaweb.si:9000 has now also more public editing rights. Just login as:
demo/demo...and you should have Edit link up-right or edit icon below central text. Clicking on it should open a WYSIWYG editor of content.
If you'll got a message "Please wait, page is currently locked by user: Demo user", then someone else is just editing that page. Wait for message: "Page is now released and ready to edit" or go back and select other page and try editing it.. Also, editing on IE6 is not supported yet, while IE7 is.
Try also uploading some image in below box, then simply drag it into the text and resize it by dragging borders. Simply isn't it?
That's it, I think you can now see how easy is to maintain Scribo based website and therefore I think it will also be easy to delegate some maintenance duties to broader public. Of course there are still other things to finish like RSS reader etc etc, soon, a day or two...
I hope that now you are convinced that with Aida/Scribo and vibrant community behind which is able to deliver, a Squeak website would be in safe hands and that you'll accept my offer.
Best regards Janko
Janko Mivšek wrote:
Dear Squeakers,
As promised I prepared a demo of current Squeak website migrated to Aida/Scribo CMS. I migrated both design and first level of content to show, how flexible is Scribo in dealing with both different design and things like Url format in case of SmallWiki. You can see demo here:
http://squeaksite.aidaweb.si:9000Demo is actually pretty complete, what is still missing is a dynamic tree menu on the left (currently is static) and some other minor things. In any case with this demo I convinced even myself that moving Squeak website is definitively possible and it will open further improvements on content, spreading authoring to more people, adding more dynamic content, etc etc.
I hope that you are now a bit more convinced that two days ago...:)
Best regards Janko
That site isn't coming up for me.
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Janko Mivšek janko.mivsek@eranova.si wrote:
karl wrote:
Looks good. The editing looks familiar with the common widgets from editors and powerful enough for the needs of the Squeak web site.
Yes, we are using TinyMCE for editor and it is really nice.
I have a few questions: Do you have external persistency so we can save space on the server ?
For pictures currently, while other needs to be ported/supported yet. But image will also be snapshoted from time to time (probably every hour) and every day it should be backed up somewhere. But that's about 50M or so, so 2x50M=100M, that's not much? I can also provide a "disaster recovery" location for that content and we can rsync every day there.
How is content in the side boxes edited ?
Currently as pure HTML, but that needs to be yet improved. Currently only admin has edit rights for that.
Is the interface translated ?
Yes, just I need to detect language better. In an hour or so ...
Janko
Janko Mivšek wrote:
Dear Squeakers,
Demo of new squeak.org on http://squeaksite.aidaweb.si:9000 has now also more public editing rights. Just login as:
demo/demo...and you should have Edit link up-right or edit icon below central text. Clicking on it should open a WYSIWYG editor of content.
If you'll got a message "Please wait, page is currently locked by user: Demo user", then someone else is just editing that page. Wait for message: "Page is now released and ready to edit" or go back and select other page and try editing it.. Also, editing on IE6 is not supported yet, while IE7 is.
Try also uploading some image in below box, then simply drag it into the text and resize it by dragging borders. Simply isn't it?
That's it, I think you can now see how easy is to maintain Scribo based website and therefore I think it will also be easy to delegate some maintenance duties to broader public. Of course there are still other things to finish like RSS reader etc etc, soon, a day or two...
I hope that now you are convinced that with Aida/Scribo and vibrant community behind which is able to deliver, a Squeak website would be in safe hands and that you'll accept my offer.
Best regards Janko
Janko Mivšek wrote:
Dear Squeakers,
As promised I prepared a demo of current Squeak website migrated to Aida/Scribo CMS. I migrated both design and first level of content to show, how flexible is Scribo in dealing with both different design and things like Url format in case of SmallWiki. You can see demo here:
http://squeaksite.aidaweb.si:9000Demo is actually pretty complete, what is still missing is a dynamic tree menu on the left (currently is static) and some other minor things. In any case with this demo I convinced even myself that moving Squeak website is definitively possible and it will open further improvements on content, spreading authoring to more people, adding more dynamic content, etc etc.
I hope that you are now a bit more convinced that two days ago...:)
Best regards Janko
-- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565
Hello all,
Two news on demo:
1. For those behind firewalls it is also accessible on default port 80:
2. RSS feed from news.squeak.org is now alive, including proper international support.
Best regards Janko
Jason Rogers wrote:
That site isn't coming up for me.
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Janko Mivšek janko.mivsek@eranova.si wrote:
karl wrote:
Looks good. The editing looks familiar with the common widgets from editors and powerful enough for the needs of the Squeak web site.
Yes, we are using TinyMCE for editor and it is really nice.
I have a few questions: Do you have external persistency so we can save space on the server ?
For pictures currently, while other needs to be ported/supported yet. But image will also be snapshoted from time to time (probably every hour) and every day it should be backed up somewhere. But that's about 50M or so, so 2x50M=100M, that's not much? I can also provide a "disaster recovery" location for that content and we can rsync every day there.
How is content in the side boxes edited ?
Currently as pure HTML, but that needs to be yet improved. Currently only admin has edit rights for that.
Is the interface translated ?
Yes, just I need to detect language better. In an hour or so ...
Janko
Janko Mivšek wrote:
Dear Squeakers,
Demo of new squeak.org on http://squeaksite.aidaweb.si:9000 has now also more public editing rights. Just login as:
demo/demo...and you should have Edit link up-right or edit icon below central text. Clicking on it should open a WYSIWYG editor of content.
If you'll got a message "Please wait, page is currently locked by user: Demo user", then someone else is just editing that page. Wait for message: "Page is now released and ready to edit" or go back and select other page and try editing it.. Also, editing on IE6 is not supported yet, while IE7 is.
Try also uploading some image in below box, then simply drag it into the text and resize it by dragging borders. Simply isn't it?
That's it, I think you can now see how easy is to maintain Scribo based website and therefore I think it will also be easy to delegate some maintenance duties to broader public. Of course there are still other things to finish like RSS reader etc etc, soon, a day or two...
I hope that now you are convinced that with Aida/Scribo and vibrant community behind which is able to deliver, a Squeak website would be in safe hands and that you'll accept my offer.
Best regards Janko
Janko Mivšek wrote:
Dear Squeakers,
As promised I prepared a demo of current Squeak website migrated to Aida/Scribo CMS. I migrated both design and first level of content to show, how flexible is Scribo in dealing with both different design and things like Url format in case of SmallWiki. You can see demo here:
http://squeaksite.aidaweb.si:9000Demo is actually pretty complete, what is still missing is a dynamic tree menu on the left (currently is static) and some other minor things. In any case with this demo I convinced even myself that moving Squeak website is definitively possible and it will open further improvements on content, spreading authoring to more people, adding more dynamic content, etc etc.
I hope that you are now a bit more convinced that two days ago...:)
Best regards Janko
-- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565
Demo Aida site looks interesting. I agree with some of Lukas' points, specifically change of layout when editing, non-English text, long time to load TinyMCE.
Lukas -- you have a demo site available?
Here's another wrench in the works (by the way, I'm loving this competition)... What about auto-translation of the site? Squeak has some support for translating text.
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Janko Mivšek janko.mivsek@eranova.si wrote:
Hello all,
Two news on demo:
For those behind firewalls it is also accessible on default port 80:
RSS feed from news.squeak.org is now alive, including proper international support.
Best regards Janko
Jason Rogers wrote:
That site isn't coming up for me.
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Janko Mivšek janko.mivsek@eranova.si wrote:
karl wrote:
Looks good. The editing looks familiar with the common widgets from editors and powerful enough for the needs of the Squeak web site.
Yes, we are using TinyMCE for editor and it is really nice.
I have a few questions: Do you have external persistency so we can save space on the server ?
For pictures currently, while other needs to be ported/supported yet. But image will also be snapshoted from time to time (probably every hour) and every day it should be backed up somewhere. But that's about 50M or so, so 2x50M=100M, that's not much? I can also provide a "disaster recovery" location for that content and we can rsync every day there.
How is content in the side boxes edited ?
Currently as pure HTML, but that needs to be yet improved. Currently only admin has edit rights for that.
Is the interface translated ?
Yes, just I need to detect language better. In an hour or so ...
Janko
Janko Mivšek wrote:
Dear Squeakers,
Demo of new squeak.org on http://squeaksite.aidaweb.si:9000 has now also more public editing rights. Just login as:
demo/demo...and you should have Edit link up-right or edit icon below central text. Clicking on it should open a WYSIWYG editor of content.
If you'll got a message "Please wait, page is currently locked by user: Demo user", then someone else is just editing that page. Wait for message: "Page is now released and ready to edit" or go back and select other page and try editing it.. Also, editing on IE6 is not supported yet, while IE7 is.
Try also uploading some image in below box, then simply drag it into the text and resize it by dragging borders. Simply isn't it?
That's it, I think you can now see how easy is to maintain Scribo based website and therefore I think it will also be easy to delegate some maintenance duties to broader public. Of course there are still other things to finish like RSS reader etc etc, soon, a day or two...
I hope that now you are convinced that with Aida/Scribo and vibrant community behind which is able to deliver, a Squeak website would be in safe hands and that you'll accept my offer.
Best regards Janko
Janko Mivšek wrote:
Dear Squeakers,
As promised I prepared a demo of current Squeak website migrated to Aida/Scribo CMS. I migrated both design and first level of content to show, how flexible is Scribo in dealing with both different design and things like Url format in case of SmallWiki. You can see demo here:
http://squeaksite.aidaweb.si:9000Demo is actually pretty complete, what is still missing is a dynamic tree menu on the left (currently is static) and some other minor things. In any case with this demo I convinced even myself that moving Squeak website is definitively possible and it will open further improvements on content, spreading authoring to more people, adding more dynamic content, etc etc.
I hope that you are now a bit more convinced that two days ago...:)
Best regards Janko
-- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565
-- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565
Lukas -- you have a demo site available?
I announced it on squeak-dev:
http://squeak.lukas-renggli.ch
Username/Password for full admin rights (no restrictions, except for user management):
demo/demo
Here's another wrench in the works (by the way, I'm loving this competition)... What about auto-translation of the site? Squeak has some support for translating text.
The Squeak support for multiple languages is just for UI items that are manually translated. It is not possible to translate full sentences. There are online services that do that, but the quality is quite bad.
Personally I don't feel like translating the Squeak site would serve any purpose. We should concentrate the forces on having up-to date English content.
Lukas
Thanks... missed that. I like the clean look. Needs a little styling, but otherwise nice. We still haven't settled on Aida, right? I hope that you and Janko will compete a little further.
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Lukas Renggli renggli@gmail.com wrote:
Lukas -- you have a demo site available?
I announced it on squeak-dev:
http://squeak.lukas-renggli.ch
Username/Password for full admin rights (no restrictions, except for user management):
demo/demo
Here's another wrench in the works (by the way, I'm loving this competition)... What about auto-translation of the site? Squeak has some support for translating text.
The Squeak support for multiple languages is just for UI items that are manually translated. It is not possible to translate full sentences. There are online services that do that, but the quality is quite bad.
Personally I don't feel like translating the Squeak site would serve any purpose. We should concentrate the forces on having up-to date English content.
Lukas
-- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
Thanks... missed that. I like the clean look. Needs a little styling, but otherwise nice.
As I said, I didn't do any styling whatsoever. This is just the default Pier installation with the data migrated from the current web-site.
Lukas
Yes, I know. I just meant to imply that I realized it wasn't a finished look -- but that I like the concept.
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Lukas Renggli renggli@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks... missed that. I like the clean look. Needs a little styling, but otherwise nice.
As I said, I didn't do any styling whatsoever. This is just the default Pier installation with the data migrated from the current web-site.
Lukas
-- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 07:15:18PM +0100, Janko Miv??ek wrote:
Dear Squeakers,
Demo of new squeak.org on http://squeaksite.aidaweb.si:9000 has now also more public editing rights. Just login as:
demo/demo
I can't figure out at all how to use this thing. I want to add a page (Documentation > Tutorials) that would be like my tutorial list, except each entry would be a separate, taggable entry, and you could specify tagging, searching, and sorting of the tutorials at a higher-level than mere text editing. But I can't figure out at all how to do that. I tried in the pier demo as well, but that seems to have encoding errors and is not even showing up as a web page for me.
My tutorial list is at: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/SqueakTutorials
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 07:15:18PM +0100, Janko Miv??ek wrote:
Dear Squeakers,
Demo of new squeak.org on http://squeaksite.aidaweb.si:9000 has now also more public editing rights. Just login as:
demo/demo
...and you should have Edit link up-right or edit icon below central text. Clicking on it should open a WYSIWYG editor of content.
If you'll got a message "Please wait, page is currently locked by user: Demo user", then someone else is just editing that page. Wait for message: "Page is now released and ready to edit" or go back and select other page and try editing it.. Also, editing on IE6 is not supported yet, while IE7 is.
The edit box is insanely large; about 1.5x the size of my entire browser window. It seems a bit excessive.
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