Webteam November 2006

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Squeak-dev image
by Damien Cassou 07 Dec '06

07 Dec '06

Hi, can you please update the website and add a reference to my dev image please ? Thank you very much. Here are the information you required. Image Name: Squeak-dev Creator: Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)laposte.net> Description of Image: Squeak-dev image, is an image specially created for developers. Updated often, it will provide up-to-date packages and bug fixes. Two kind of packages are used in the image : Installed Packages and Prepared Packages. Whereas Installed Packages are packages already loaded and ready to use, Prepared Packages are not loaded in the image. However, only one click is needed to install them and a small documentation is rendered for each. Feel free to use this image and send me an email if you have any comment. Image Base: Squeak3.9-final-7067 Image Filename: squeak-dev-*.zip (always use the last version) Image full URL: http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev Sincerely, -- Damien Cassou

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Re: [Webteam] SqueakFoundation Pier Image
by Brad Fuller 24 Nov '06

24 Nov '06

karl wrote: > Hi, Brad. > I looked at www.squeakfoundation.org and noticed it breakes when you > try to edit or look at changes on the pages etc. It seems like the url > stuff is not totally ironed out. Yes, I know. I haven't been able to get back to it. Lukas says that the problem is Pier and Seaside are not the same versions. Ken had updated them a while a go and it was working fine. But, it's broken. Neither of us has changed anything. So, I don't know what happened. > > karl >

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Re: [Webteam] Base Image Hosting -- where'd they go?
by Brad Fuller 24 Nov '06

24 Nov '06

karl wrote: > Brad Fuller skrev: > >> All, >> >> We had a couple of links to images that people provided (with >> descriptions, etc.) >> >> Weren't the links at: >> http://www.squeak.org/Download/ >> >> I don't see them there. Did I post them someplace else? Am I going >> crazy? > > You are not crazy :-) > But did you snapshot the changes you made ? Otherwise they go lost if > the image > is restarted. I guess that is what have happened. Yeah, I've snapshotted them. Now, the question is how to get them back. Is the snapshot basically saving the image? I'll have to look on the box when I get time. thanks, brad

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Base Image Hosting -- where'd they go?
by Brad Fuller 23 Nov '06

23 Nov '06

All, We had a couple of links to images that people provided (with descriptions, etc.) Weren't the links at: http://www.squeak.org/Download/ I don't see them there. Did I post them someplace else? Am I going crazy?

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Re: Groklaw article on Squeak
by Michael van der Gulik 22 Nov '06

22 Nov '06

It would be good to update www.squeak.org with this latest license information. I'll do it on wwwtest.squeak.org if I find time sometime soon. Michael. Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On Nov 18, 2006, at 23:35 , Philippe Marschall wrote: > >> 2006/11/18, Nevin Pratt <nevin(a)bountifulbaby.com>: >> >>> I think this is of general interest to all Squeakers: >>> >>> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061118091048997 >> >> >> Just out of curiosity. They say it's FOSS. So what is the license of >> the OLPC image and VM? Apache as the article suggests? > > > VM is MIT (see current SVN sources). Image is Apache. > > Because we only ship the binary image and no sources in the OLPC OS > builds, we could already release this under Apache license. However, > Kim Rose is sending out contributor forms at the moment, all > contributions since Squeak 1.1 are going to be MIT which is compatible > with Apache. Once this is finished, source code will be fully under > Apache, too, and we expect this to be finished before the first real > OLPC laptop ships. > > - Bert - > > > > >

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No mention of Squeak relicensing to less-restrictive Apache license on Squeak.org
by Alex Perez 17 Nov '06

17 Nov '06

Folks, According to http://laptop.media.mit.edu/laptopnews.nsf/2e76a5a80bc36cbf85256cd700545fa5… , Alan Kay announced a month and a half ago that Steve Jobs has agreed to relicense Squeak under the Apache License, but the license cited at htttp://www.squeak.org/SqueakLicense/ is still the old APSL 2.0. Shouldn't this be updated to reflect the change, as well as the license file that comes along with the release? (which launches me into a question of why the 3.9 final image still isn't a default part of the main archives under the download section, but I digress, and am sure you folks are already aware of this) Respectfully, Alex Perez

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Request for an Exupery website redirect
by Alex Perez 15 Nov '06

15 Nov '06

Hi there, I'm new around these parts, but have helped administer the gnustep.org website in the past, and am a systems administrator by trade. I was wondering if you guys would be willing to set up a simple one-line Apache HTTP redirect for http://exupery.squeak.org which would point to http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/Exupery ? The official Exupery URL is quite non-memorable. I'm not sure what Squeak's policy is about associating with quasi/non-official Squeak projects, but it should be easy to do from a technical perspective. Regards, Alex Perez

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Re: [croquet] New MockTurtle package on CroquetSource
by David Faught 09 Nov '06

09 Nov '06

Hi Karl, I am willing to make a Croquet image available that includes my MockTurtle package. I suspect that it will only be useful for a few months at most. Based on an email from Brad Fuller on behalf of the Squeak WebTeam on Oct. 18, here is the information describing the image: Image Name: MockTurtle1.0.image Creator: Dave Faught Description of Image: This image includes all standard Croquet updates as of around Oct. 31, 2006 as well as my publicly-contributed MockTurtle, CCPainter, and VRML packages. It is particularly useful for anyone that wants to try out the most recent MockTurtle changes without going through the entire update process from the base 1.0 SDK, which has gotten a little out of hand. I would NOT recommend it as a base for further standard updates. There may be a couple of other little changes here and there. Image Base: Croquet 1.0 SDK Beta Image Filename: MockTurtle1.0.image.gz Image full URL: I would prefer that the WebTeam host this file, in fact I don't really have any easy way to make it available for downloading. I would prefer to upload it to the ftp site myself, if possible. Dave On 11/8/06, karl <karl.ramberg(a)chello.se> wrote: > David Faught skrev: > > Hi Karl, > > > > Unfortunately, it is a rather involved procedure to get an updated > > image for Croquet. They rarely use the update stream that the update > > button references. The procedure uses Monticello and is described on > > the Croquet wiki at > > http://croquet.doit.wisc.edu/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=How+do+I+keep+my+imag… > > > > If you can manage to get an updated image, then you will need to load > > my latest VRML package from the PublicContributions repository on > > CroquetSource, and then finally the MockTurtle package. > I did all this and still got into trouble with some obsolete classes.... > > > > > Sorry that this is such an involved process right now, but I have > > heard fairly strong rumors that the core team is working on a new > > release, which would have all the updates included. I haven't heard > > any target dates, or any real confirmation that a new release is > > pending. > > > > I recently saw someone on the Squeak list offering to host download > > space for different Squeak images. Maybe I should make my image > > available there, at least temporarily. I'll check into that, if you > > would like. > Yes, we host images on http://ftp.squeak.org/various_images/ > If you would like to do that let me know. > Karl > > > > Dave > > > > On 11/7/06, karl <karl.ramberg(a)chello.se> wrote: > >> I have tried to get this to work but I can't sort out the dependences. > >> Which packages do I need to install or update to get MTurtle to work ? > >> First I updated Croquet with the update button. When I tried to load > >> the MTurtle package it complained. I tried to load latest versions of > >> the Croquet and Tweak packages and then the MTurtles loaded but > >> when I dragged out the MTurtle thing from the objects tool I got into a > >> endless walkback. > >> Karl > > > >

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Suggestion for Squeak Website
by Ryon 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

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Re: Re: Squeakfoundation.org Image issue
by Ken Causey 01 Nov '06

01 Nov '06

On Tue, 2006-10-31 at 18:25 -0500, Jason Rogers wrote: > We didn't do this with the original squeak.org image, because it isn't > running Seaside. It's running SmallWiki 1 (via Kom I think). Ah, OK. My mistake then. Thanks anyway. Brad and I will crunch on this some more then and see what we can figure out. Ken

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