Webteam June 2012

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Aida6.4-Janko.5
by Herbert König 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

Hi, while fixing Squeak incompatibilities with Aida6.4-Janko.5 Aida wanted to do a hourly backup. This failed because of missing OsProcess. I don't want to cope with that right now so anyone knows how to disable the backups? Next thing I ran into again is climbing the stack. Login as admin. Go to Settings. Select Tab Sites. Reselect Tab "Main settings" to get the Error. Reason is, that I commented out the check for context arguments size > 2 earlier. So it seems we cannot use this version until someone (Janko obviously) finds time to fix this for Squeak. BTW I went back to first assuring latest Aida to work in trunk because I ran into too many problems when trying to run scribo. How to proceed? Cheers Herbert

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OS process for Backup
by Herbert König 22 Jun '12

22 Jun '12

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An Installer script
by Chris Cunnington 21 Jun '12

21 Jun '12

So here's an Installer script to load Aida and Scribo into Squeak 4.3. The SqueakSite is added as well. I imagine owing to Herbert's discoveries that some of his tweaks will be added to these packages. Chris x := (Installer monticello http: 'http://mc.aidaweb.si'). x project: 'Sport'; install: 'Sport-2.031'. x project: 'Swazoo'; install: 'Swazoo-2.3beta2.6'. x project: 'Aida'; install: 'Aida6.4-janko.5'. x project: 'Scribo'; install: 'Scribo1.0-beta-janko.9'. x project: 'SqueakSite'; install: 'SqueakSite-janko.18'

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Running current Aida and Scribo in Trunk could use some advice
by Herbert König 21 Jun '12

21 Jun '12

Hi, When loading the latest and greatest Sport 2.031; Swazoo 2.3beta2.6; Aida6.4-janko.5; scribo1.0-beta-janko.9 I get the DNU from my previous post which is caused by Aida6.4-janko5 having changed Object>>firstRequestFromStack .............................. isBlock not and: [(stContext receiver isKindOf: AIDASite) and: [stContext arguments size > 1 "------------- this condition was added" and: [(stContext at: 2) isKindOf: HTTPRequest]] ] ................. where stContext is a MethodContext which does not understand #arguments. This also happens when scribo is not loaded. So Aida6.4-final.1.mcz seems the right version of Aida to use. In this configuration i can log into the Aidademo site on port 8888. If I load either the beta version or the previous version of scribo (jm 192) on top of this I get the attached debugger. Climbing up the stack ends up trying to send #isFromMSIE to an instance of Writestream which DNU's. BTW in Swazoo 2.3beta2.6 a lot of the swazoo tests fail. I use an older version in trunk where much less tests fail, but that can be left for later. I understand too little of this climbing up the stack to feel confident debugging that. Janko? Cheers Herbert

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Thinking out loud about Aida and Scribo
by Chris Cunnington 20 Jun '12

20 Jun '12

Aida is a web framework. You create the domain first and then register that, which is unlike Seaside. Then you can choose views for it. The word "style" means more in Aida, as I think it informs the entire view. SqueakSite has some classes like SqueakSiteApp and SqueakSitePageApp, but I don't know that they do anything. SqueakSiteStyle does a lot. It manages the SqueakSite and SqueakSitePage instances, where the content is for the site. The content is in the instances, not the classes, which are just for presenting/formatting that data. Aida has a "frame" which is a banner with a link bar on the left side of the page. Or it can, like the SqueakSite, have two menu bars - one on each side of the page. The content, then, can go in the middle of this upside down U. If you use Scribo, then the middle of the upside down U will be a Scribo interface for making a wiki, blog, or webpage. And extensive set of tools are provided for you to click, type, and link. You don't need to make the site programmatically at all. Scribo stores it all in the instances. So, using Scribo, it's a mystery why the instances look the way they do, as the user interface is so human friendly. I imagine using Aida, you have to add things programatically. On the Squeak site to change the content with Scribo is easy. To change a menu requires some coding in a Workspace, it seems . Each link on a page is a key in a dictionary to a value object containing all the content. They are stored in the #pages instvar of the Site class. Your site is a subclass of that. The image is used for persistence, which means all those instances need to be pulled out of one image and into another either with an image segment or using SIXX to draw down the instances with XML. Aida iterates over the instances with #allInstances, which is something I haven't seen in HTTPView2 or Seaside (which doesn't have a default persistence solution). (ie AIDASite allInstances do: [:each | each wiki parent: each]. ) OK, that's everything I know about Aida. If there is anything materially wrong here, I hope somebody will point it out. Thanks, Chris

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5.6 to 6.0 migration notes
by Chris Cunnington 20 Jun '12

20 Jun '12

http://www.aidaweb.si/migration%20to%206.0%20procedure

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How to log into the squeak web image
by Herbert König 19 Jun '12

19 Jun '12

Hi, I never used scribo but I assume if I log into the site as admin I could start an try to edit pages. The security manager in the image still has the same old users as the Aida demo but the admin password changed (to what?). I could pick the hash out of the image but I need the password. Secondly I think the original purpose is to upgrade to a new Aida. How to start? I could set up a trunk image, load a current Aida and then use the mcz i find in the package cache to try to set it up, but I even don't know the load order. Any kind of guidance would be much appreciated. And I'd prefer not to use the current Aida but the one currently under development (Aida 6.5) which is already used for Aidaweb.si. Cheers Herbert

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Got started
by Herbert König 18 Jun '12

18 Jun '12

Hi, I got both images running, the newer one is serving the Squeak site on localhost:7780/ the old one is serving the Demo on :8888. In the new image all Aida related stuff has wrong linefeeds in the browser the other classes don't. Anyone knows the incantation to fix? How to continue tonight? BTW I run Aida6.1 on trunk with Cog which gave a big speedup. Cheers Herbert

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Aida Workshop Online
by Chris Cunnington 18 Jun '12

18 Jun '12

Welcome to Aida week in the Webteam mailing list!

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Backwards
by Chris Cunnington 17 Jun '12

17 Jun '12

Actually the first link is the new image and the second is the original image... They say "new" and "old" ... I don't know it's late. I should go to bed. ;) Chris

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