What do you guys think about rearranging the front page to be a bit more sparse? Less text with "About Smalltalk" more about the cool applications that are happening. Specifically today, seaside and olpc are have enthusiasm around the world and maybe we could take advantage of that ride to promote Squeak on the first page. I like the next steps area (although it might be too long) The "Main Squeak Portals" seems redundant because they are on the right side. We could use the explanation text as the mouse hover text on the right so we don't lose the descriptions of the portals.
Just a thought.
Brad Fuller skrev:
What do you guys think about rearranging the front page to be a bit more sparse? Less text with "About Smalltalk" more about the cool applications that are happening. Specifically today, seaside and olpc are have enthusiasm around the world and maybe we could take advantage of that ride to promote Squeak on the first page.
Sounds good. We could move stuff over to other pages, like documentation.
I like the next steps area (although it might be too long)
Yup. Not sure what to do with it.
The "Main Squeak Portals" seems redundant because they are on the right side. We could use the explanation text as the mouse hover text on the right so we don't lose the descriptions of the portals.
This is just a leftover from before the yellow box existed but as you say the additional text would get lost by erasing it. What do you mean by hover text ? Some javascript stuff that pops up ? You could try that on the test site first.
Just a thought.
Also In the news part: 'News posted' could be deleted I think, it's a bit noisy now. The date and time on the news feed is a bit elaborate, can it be just the date ?
Karl
karl skrev:
Brad Fuller skrev:
What do you guys think about rearranging the front page to be a bit more sparse? Less text with "About Smalltalk" more about the cool applications that are happening. Specifically today, seaside and olpc are have enthusiasm around the world and maybe we could take advantage of that ride to promote Squeak on the first page.
Sounds good. We could move stuff over to other pages, like documentation.
I like the next steps area (although it might be too long)
Yup. Not sure what to do with it.
The "Main Squeak Portals" seems redundant because they are on the right side. We could use the explanation text as the mouse hover text on the right so we don't lose the descriptions of the portals.
This is just a leftover from before the yellow box existed but as you say the additional text would get lost by erasing it. What do you mean by hover text ? Some javascript stuff that pops up ? You could try that on the test site first.
Ok, I saw the hover text on the news feed links. Looks good.
Just a thought.
Also In the news part: 'News posted' could be deleted I think, it's a bit noisy now.
I'll do it my self.
The date and time on the news feed is a bit elaborate, can it be just the date ?
Date stuff is not that important...
Karl
karl wrote:
I like the next steps area (although it might be too long)
Yup. Not sure what to do with it.
Ok, I've updated the wwwtest.squeak.org front page. I changed the descriptions of the projects (bottom) from what they were on the Projects page.
What do you think?
I haven't placed the extracted text anywhere, yet.
The "Main Squeak Portals" seems redundant because they are on the right side. We could use the explanation text as the mouse hover text on the right so we don't lose the descriptions of the portals.
This is just a leftover from before the yellow box existed but as you say the additional text would get lost by erasing it. What do you mean by hover text ? Some javascript stuff that pops up ? You could try that on the test site first.
Ok, I saw the hover text on the news feed links. Looks good.
do you know how to do this on the side?
Also In the news part: 'News posted' could be deleted I think, it's a bit noisy now.
I'll do it my self.
The date and time on the news feed is a bit elaborate, can it be just the date ?
Date stuff is not that important...
After seeing the latest change in wwwtest.squeak.org, I do think that the date/timestamp is a little busy compared to the other sections.
Maybe something like this format?
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or maybe use a lighter color font to de-emphasize the date?
-Larry Trutter
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From: Brad Fuller brad@sonaural.com To: webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [Webteam] Front Page Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:42:02 -0800
What do you guys think about rearranging the front page to be a bit more sparse? Less text with "About Smalltalk" more about the cool applications that are happening. Specifically today, seaside and olpc are have enthusiasm around the world
Maybe links to the blogs? There has been a several new blogs about Seaside recently. Lucas added a couple of them to http://seaside.st/Community/ . I don't know much about olpc, though.
the next steps area (although it might be too long) The "Main Squeak Portals" seems redundant because they are on the right side. We could use the explanation text as the mouse hover text on the right so we don't lose the descriptions of the portals.
Yes, I agree that it appears to be redundant however I noticed one link is not redundant. The "Projects" link could be moved to the Next Steps section.
Just my 2 cents.
Also, let me know if there is anything else I can do to help.
-Larry Trutter
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Thanks for your comments, Larry. See below.
Larry Trutter wrote:
From: Brad Fuller brad@sonaural.com To: webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [Webteam] Front Page Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:42:02 -0800
What do you guys think about rearranging the front page to be a bit more sparse? Less text with "About Smalltalk" more about the cool applications that are happening. Specifically today, seaside and olpc are have enthusiasm around the world
Maybe links to the blogs? There has been a several new blogs about Seaside recently. Lucas added a couple of them to http://seaside.st/Community/ . I don't know much about olpc, though.
i thought about that, but most of the posting of those blogs are not "news." They are very interesting, though.
the next steps area (although it might be too long) The "Main Squeak Portals" seems redundant because they are on the right side. We could use the explanation text as the mouse hover text on the right so we don't lose the descriptions of the portals.
Yes, I agree that it appears to be redundant however I noticed one link is not redundant. The "Projects" link could be moved to the Next Steps section
My input is that the right side "Links" is also too long. Some of those are Projects and we could put them on the projects page and eliminate them from the right side.
Brad Fuller wrote:
What do you guys think about rearranging the front page to be a bit more sparse? Less text with "About Smalltalk" more about the cool applications that are happening. Specifically today, seaside and olpc are have enthusiasm around the world and maybe we could take advantage of that ride to promote Squeak on the first page. I like the next steps area (although it might be too long) The "Main Squeak Portals" seems redundant because they are on the right side. We could use the explanation text as the mouse hover text on the right so we don't lose the descriptions of the portals.
Just a thought.
Based on some input that we've seen floating around on squeak-dev, I've changed the front page of wwwtest.squeak.org to see if it would meet with positive results from others. Here's what I did:
* I've added a "news" box on the right side. * I moved the "links" box to the left (because the news on the left was just too small) * I made the front page more sparse to enhance the appeal for beginners searching for squeak. * I removed the long "About Squeak" section. This can be integrated in the About page if we want. * I removed the "Main Squeak Portals" section. It's a duplicate of what is in the links box (except for Planet Squeak, which I added to "Links"). The problem is that we lose the description of the links. If there was a easy way to add these descriptions as balloons text when your mouse hover's over the link, that would be idea. I don't know how to do that.
what do you think?
Brad Fuller wrote:
Brad Fuller wrote:
What do you guys think about rearranging the front page to be a bit more sparse? Less text with "About Smalltalk" more about the cool applications that are happening. Specifically today, seaside and olpc are have enthusiasm around the world and maybe we could take advantage of that ride to promote Squeak on the first page. I like the next steps area (although it might be too long) The "Main Squeak Portals" seems redundant because they are on the right side. We could use the explanation text as the mouse hover text on the right so we don't lose the descriptions of the portals.
Just a thought.
Based on some input that we've seen floating around on squeak-dev, I've changed the front page of wwwtest.squeak.org to see if it would meet with positive results from others. Here's what I did:
- I've added a "news" box on the right side.
- I moved the "links" box to the left (because the news on the left
was just too small)
- I made the front page more sparse to enhance the appeal for
beginners searching for squeak.
- I removed the long "About Squeak" section. This can be integrated in
the About page if we want.
- I removed the "Main Squeak Portals" section. It's a duplicate of
what is in the links box (except for Planet Squeak, which I added to "Links"). The problem is that we lose the description of the links. If there was a easy way to add these descriptions as balloons text when your mouse hover's over the link, that would be idea. I don't know how to do that.
what do you think?
Bummer, I forgot that the menu dynamically grew downwards. So, an absolute position of "links" on the left won't work. Anyone a css expert?
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