Am 28.06.2009 um 21:18 schrieb Janko Mivšek:
Done! Thanks for notifying us that!
Thanks for the fast response. May I suggest you also add it to the Organization (it is still called Squeak Foundation Board there) and maybe also the Team page? If you gave me a login, I'd fix it myself. ;-)
About updating main website, this is mainly a job of our web team, where anyone is welcome, just join the webteam mailing list and ask there for an account.
Well, somehow I missed/forgot the existence of that mailing list. That was one of the reasons why I started the "Merge mailing lists?" thread.
Cheers, Bernhard
Hi Bernhard,
You flatered me too soon, now I'm slow as a snail :)
I opened you the account, more in private mail. Please make a brief report here n the list after changes you'll make. That's actually the reason for that list, to separate such posts from more geenral on squeak-dev. But I agree, a lot of mailing lists are to be closed.
JAnko
Bernhard Pieber pravi:
Am 28.06.2009 um 21:18 schrieb Janko Mivšek:
Done! Thanks for notifying us that!
Thanks for the fast response. May I suggest you also add it to the Organization (it is still called Squeak Foundation Board there) and maybe also the Team page? If you gave me a login, I'd fix it myself. ;-)
About updating main website, this is mainly a job of our web team, where anyone is welcome, just join the webteam mailing list and ask there for an account.
Well, somehow I missed/forgot the existence of that mailing list. That was one of the reasons why I started the "Merge mailing lists?" thread.
Cheers, Bernhard _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam
Hi Janko,
I just did some minor changes to www.squeak.org mostly to try out editing in Aida/Web. E.g. I changed the wording from the old Squeak Leadership Board to the new Squeak Oversight Board, and I fixed a formatting on the Teams page.
I wanted to do some improvements to the Teams page: 1. The following comment seems out of date: (Craig is advising so many simply because most of them don't have other volunteers from the leadership team yet.) 2. The Squeak Oversight Board is missing from the teams list. 3. Change the wording of leadership team to Squeak Oversight Board. 4. Remove the following comment: This page was originally written by Göran Krampe and later edited by Craig Latta. Please see the revision history for the last edit date. Then I saw the following: If you would like to edit this page, please contact Craig to discuss it first. Then I lost confidence to just do the changes. :-;
So, what do you say? May I?
Cheers, Bernhard
Am 29.06.2009 um 21:47 schrieb Janko Mivšek:
Hi Bernhard,
You flatered me too soon, now I'm slow as a snail :)
I opened you the account, more in private mail. Please make a brief report here n the list after changes you'll make. That's actually the reason for that list, to separate such posts from more geenral on squeak-dev. But I agree, a lot of mailing lists are to be closed.
JAnko
Bernhard Pieber pravi:
Am 28.06.2009 um 21:18 schrieb Janko Mivšek:
Done! Thanks for notifying us that!
Thanks for the fast response. May I suggest you also add it to the Organization (it is still called Squeak Foundation Board there) and maybe also the Team page? If you gave me a login, I'd fix it myself. ;-)
About updating main website, this is mainly a job of our web team, where anyone is welcome, just join the webteam mailing list and ask there for an account.
Well, somehow I missed/forgot the existence of that mailing list. That was one of the reasons why I started the "Merge mailing lists?" thread.
Cheers, Bernhard _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam
-- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565 _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam
Hi Bernhard,
Bernhard Pieber pravi:
I just did some minor changes to www.squeak.org http://www.squeak.org mostly to try out editing in Aida/Web. E.g. I changed the wording from the old Squeak Leadership Board to the new Squeak Oversight Board, and I fixed a formatting on the Teams page.
I wanted to do some improvements to the Teams page:
- The following comment seems out of date: (Craig is advising so many
simply because most of them don't have other volunteers from the leadership team yet.)
Ken, Igor, how is with this currently?
- The Squeak Oversight Board is missing from the teams list.
I'd add it on the top of the table as link to board's page.
- Change the wording of leadership team to Squeak Oversight Board.
Yep, this is urgent.
- Remove the following comment: This page was originally written by
Göran Krampe and later edited by Craig Latta. Please see the revision history for the last edit date. Then I saw the following: If you would like to edit this page, please contact Craig http://netjam.org/ to discuss it first. Then I lost confidence to just do the changes. :-;
So, what do you say? May I?
This is certainly something we need to get a consensus with the Board members. Igor, Ken, what do you think?
I also think this comment can go now out of the teams page. Maybe we could rather add links to the older pages too track how the teams model progresses through the time?
Janko
2009/7/9 Janko Mivšek janko.mivsek@eranova.si:
Hi Bernhard,
Bernhard Pieber pravi:
I just did some minor changes to www.squeak.org http://www.squeak.org mostly to try out editing in Aida/Web. E.g. I changed the wording from the old Squeak Leadership Board to the new Squeak Oversight Board, and I fixed a formatting on the Teams page.
I wanted to do some improvements to the Teams page:
- The following comment seems out of date: (Craig is advising so many
simply because most of them don't have other volunteers from the leadership team yet.)
Ken, Igor, how is with this currently?
- The Squeak Oversight Board is missing from the teams list.
I'd add it on the top of the table as link to board's page.
- Change the wording of leadership team to Squeak Oversight Board.
Yep, this is urgent.
- Remove the following comment: This page was originally written by
Göran Krampe and later edited by Craig Latta. Please see the revision history for the last edit date. Then I saw the following: If you would like to edit this page, please contact Craig http://netjam.org/ to discuss it first. Then I lost confidence to just do the changes. :-;
So, what do you say? May I?
This is certainly something we need to get a consensus with the Board members. Igor, Ken, what do you think?
I also think this comment can go now out of the teams page. Maybe we could rather add links to the older pages too track how the teams model progresses through the time?
Ken , recently, did a survey among teams and collected some bits of information, which i think can be put on Teams page. I proposed to change this page to be more informative, concerning team's own visions and goals, not just a few words. The reason for giving more information is to attract more developers.
For instance: release 4 Produce Squeak release 4 (cleanly MIT-licensed)
there is no any word, how people could participate, or help or get on board.
or: vm Maintains the Squeak virtual machine. http://www.squeakvm.org/
again, very brief and no any evidence, if there is help is needed, how team organized, does it have any outstanding task(s)/goals which may require some help/contribution etc etc.
Same for SOB - if you put a simple link - this is simplest way to draw visitor's attention to somewhere else. While our intent is on contrary - give visitor an enough material on a single page, so he can see an overall image of community goals & activities, up to the point that he could say to himself: hey, i'd like to join this team - so i will click here and write a mail :)
Janko
Webteam mailing list Webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam
To illustrate , what i have in mind, here is a sketch, of VM Team description:
---- VM Team
VM Team is maintaining a Squeak VM , which consists from smalltalk code (link to VMMaker) and platform dependant code for all major platforms. Currently we have a three main maintainers: - Linux flavors (Ian .. - Windows flavors (Andreas .. - Mac OS, iPhone flavors (John .. A team leader David Lewis, maintains the VMMaker package and contacts/watching that any updates to VM is adopted well on all flavors etc etc If you found a bug, having a problem using VM, want to participate, or want to discuss different aspects of Squeak Virtual Machine - please feel free to join the (link to vm-dev list) or contact any of team members individually -----
2009/7/9 Igor Stasenko siguctua@gmail.com:
2009/7/9 Janko Mivšek janko.mivsek@eranova.si:
Hi Bernhard,
Bernhard Pieber pravi:
I just did some minor changes to www.squeak.org http://www.squeak.org mostly to try out editing in Aida/Web. E.g. I changed the wording from the old Squeak Leadership Board to the new Squeak Oversight Board, and I fixed a formatting on the Teams page.
I wanted to do some improvements to the Teams page:
- The following comment seems out of date: (Craig is advising so many
simply because most of them don't have other volunteers from the leadership team yet.)
Ken, Igor, how is with this currently?
- The Squeak Oversight Board is missing from the teams list.
I'd add it on the top of the table as link to board's page.
- Change the wording of leadership team to Squeak Oversight Board.
Yep, this is urgent.
- Remove the following comment: This page was originally written by
Göran Krampe and later edited by Craig Latta. Please see the revision history for the last edit date. Then I saw the following: If you would like to edit this page, please contact Craig http://netjam.org/ to discuss it first. Then I lost confidence to just do the changes. :-;
So, what do you say? May I?
This is certainly something we need to get a consensus with the Board members. Igor, Ken, what do you think?
I also think this comment can go now out of the teams page. Maybe we could rather add links to the older pages too track how the teams model progresses through the time?
Ken , recently, did a survey among teams and collected some bits of information, which i think can be put on Teams page. I proposed to change this page to be more informative, concerning team's own visions and goals, not just a few words. The reason for giving more information is to attract more developers.
For instance: release 4 Produce Squeak release 4 (cleanly MIT-licensed)
there is no any word, how people could participate, or help or get on board.
or: vm Maintains the Squeak virtual machine. http://www.squeakvm.org/
again, very brief and no any evidence, if there is help is needed, how team organized, does it have any outstanding task(s)/goals which may require some help/contribution etc etc.
Same for SOB - if you put a simple link - this is simplest way to draw visitor's attention to somewhere else. While our intent is on contrary - give visitor an enough material on a single page, so he can see an overall image of community goals & activities, up to the point that he could say to himself: hey, i'd like to join this team - so i will click here and write a mail :)
Janko
Webteam mailing list Webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
Igor, I agree. So we need to open a separate page for each team and made link from the teams page. Otherwise this page won't be as readable as it is now when you see all teams nicely in one short table.
Janko
Igor Stasenko pravi:
To illustrate , what i have in mind, here is a sketch, of VM Team description:
VM Team
VM Team is maintaining a Squeak VM , which consists from smalltalk code (link to VMMaker) and platform dependant code for all major platforms. Currently we have a three main maintainers:
- Linux flavors (Ian ..
- Windows flavors (Andreas ..
- Mac OS, iPhone flavors (John ..
A team leader David Lewis, maintains the VMMaker package and contacts/watching that any updates to VM is adopted well on all flavors etc etc If you found a bug, having a problem using VM, want to participate, or want to discuss different aspects of Squeak Virtual Machine - please feel free to join the (link to vm-dev list) or contact any of team members individually
2009/7/9 Igor Stasenko siguctua@gmail.com:
2009/7/9 Janko Mivšek janko.mivsek@eranova.si:
Hi Bernhard,
Bernhard Pieber pravi:
I just did some minor changes to www.squeak.org http://www.squeak.org mostly to try out editing in Aida/Web. E.g. I changed the wording from the old Squeak Leadership Board to the new Squeak Oversight Board, and I fixed a formatting on the Teams page.
I wanted to do some improvements to the Teams page:
- The following comment seems out of date: (Craig is advising so many
simply because most of them don't have other volunteers from the leadership team yet.)
Ken, Igor, how is with this currently?
- The Squeak Oversight Board is missing from the teams list.
I'd add it on the top of the table as link to board's page.
- Change the wording of leadership team to Squeak Oversight Board.
Yep, this is urgent.
- Remove the following comment: This page was originally written by
Göran Krampe and later edited by Craig Latta. Please see the revision history for the last edit date. Then I saw the following: If you would like to edit this page, please contact Craig http://netjam.org/ to discuss it first. Then I lost confidence to just do the changes. :-; So, what do you say? May I?
This is certainly something we need to get a consensus with the Board members. Igor, Ken, what do you think?
I also think this comment can go now out of the teams page. Maybe we could rather add links to the older pages too track how the teams model progresses through the time?
Ken , recently, did a survey among teams and collected some bits of information, which i think can be put on Teams page. I proposed to change this page to be more informative, concerning team's own visions and goals, not just a few words. The reason for giving more information is to attract more developers.
For instance: release 4 Produce Squeak release 4 (cleanly MIT-licensed)
there is no any word, how people could participate, or help or get on board.
or: vm Maintains the Squeak virtual machine. http://www.squeakvm.org/
again, very brief and no any evidence, if there is help is needed, how team organized, does it have any outstanding task(s)/goals which may require some help/contribution etc etc.
Same for SOB - if you put a simple link - this is simplest way to draw visitor's attention to somewhere else. While our intent is on contrary - give visitor an enough material on a single page, so he can see an overall image of community goals & activities, up to the point that he could say to himself: hey, i'd like to join this team - so i will click here and write a mail :)
Janko
Webteam mailing list Webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
I also agree that separate pages for the teams would be better. The teams should be responsible for maintaining them. We have the following options: a) We could add them to www.squeak.org. (How can I do this?) b) We could link to team pages on the Swiki.
What is the general policy regarding www.squeak.org versus Swiki? a) Have only the minimum amount of relative stable information on www.squeak.org and link to the Swiki. or rather b) Move more and more information from the Swiki to www.squeak.org c) Have similar information in both places.
Personally I think a) is best, because it means less work for the Webteam and more responsibility for the community. c) should be avoided at all cost in my opinion.
Cheers, Bernhard
Am 09.07.2009 um 16:32 schrieb Janko Mivšek:
Igor, I agree. So we need to open a separate page for each team and made link from the teams page. Otherwise this page won't be as readable as it is now when you see all teams nicely in one short table.
Hi Igor,
I agree more information would be great. However, I was asking for an OK to do much smaller changes. E.g. Craig only advises two teams now, so the comment is out of date.
Cheers, Bernhard
Am 09.07.2009 um 16:22 schrieb Igor Stasenko:
To illustrate , what i have in mind, here is a sketch, of VM Team description:
VM Team
VM Team is maintaining a Squeak VM , which consists from smalltalk code (link to VMMaker) and platform dependant code for all major platforms. Currently we have a three main maintainers:
- Linux flavors (Ian ..
- Windows flavors (Andreas ..
- Mac OS, iPhone flavors (John ..
A team leader David Lewis, maintains the VMMaker package and contacts/watching that any updates to VM is adopted well on all flavors etc etc If you found a bug, having a problem using VM, want to participate, or want to discuss different aspects of Squeak Virtual Machine - please feel free to join the (link to vm-dev list) or contact any of team members individually
2009/7/9 Igor Stasenko siguctua@gmail.com:
2009/7/9 Janko Mivšek janko.mivsek@eranova.si:
Hi Bernhard,
Bernhard Pieber pravi:
I just did some minor changes to www.squeak.org <http://www.squeak.org
mostly to try out editing in Aida/Web. E.g. I changed the wording from the old Squeak Leadership Board to the new Squeak Oversight Board, and I fixed a formatting on the Teams page.
I wanted to do some improvements to the Teams page:
- The following comment seems out of date: (Craig is advising so
many simply because most of them don't have other volunteers from the leadership team yet.)
Ken, Igor, how is with this currently?
- The Squeak Oversight Board is missing from the teams list.
I'd add it on the top of the table as link to board's page.
- Change the wording of leadership team to Squeak Oversight Board.
Yep, this is urgent.
- Remove the following comment: This page was originally written
by Göran Krampe and later edited by Craig Latta. Please see the revision history for the last edit date. Then I saw the following: If you would like to edit this page, please contact Craig http://netjam.org/ to discuss it first. Then I lost confidence to just do the changes. :-;
So, what do you say? May I?
This is certainly something we need to get a consensus with the Board members. Igor, Ken, what do you think?
I also think this comment can go now out of the teams page. Maybe we could rather add links to the older pages too track how the teams model progresses through the time?
Ken , recently, did a survey among teams and collected some bits of information, which i think can be put on Teams page. I proposed to change this page to be more informative, concerning team's own visions and goals, not just a few words. The reason for giving more information is to attract more developers.
For instance: release 4 Produce Squeak release 4 (cleanly MIT-licensed)
there is no any word, how people could participate, or help or get on board.
or: vm Maintains the Squeak virtual machine. http://www.squeakvm.org/
again, very brief and no any evidence, if there is help is needed, how team organized, does it have any outstanding task(s)/goals which may require some help/contribution etc etc.
Same for SOB - if you put a simple link - this is simplest way to draw visitor's attention to somewhere else. While our intent is on contrary - give visitor an enough material on a single page, so he can see an overall image of community goals & activities, up to the point that he could say to himself: hey, i'd like to join this team - so i will click here and write a mail :)
Janko
Webteam mailing list Webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam
Hi Janko,
By the way, when I changed the formatting on the Teams page, the first cell of the table changed automatically from box admins to "> box admins. When I fixed that, the third cell changed from advisor to advisor td>. I finally fixed that to board advisor. However, this makes me fairly anxious to change something. Any ideas what might be the reason for this?
By the way, is there a way to view the diffs between different versions of a page?
Cheers, Bernhard
Am 29.06.2009 um 21:47 schrieb Janko Mivšek:
Hi Bernhard,
You flatered me too soon, now I'm slow as a snail :)
I opened you the account, more in private mail. Please make a brief report here n the list after changes you'll make. That's actually the reason for that list, to separate such posts from more geenral on squeak-dev. But I agree, a lot of mailing lists are to be closed.
JAnko
Bernhard Pieber pravi:
Am 28.06.2009 um 21:18 schrieb Janko Mivšek:
Done! Thanks for notifying us that!
Thanks for the fast response. May I suggest you also add it to the Organization (it is still called Squeak Foundation Board there) and maybe also the Team page? If you gave me a login, I'd fix it myself. ;-)
About updating main website, this is mainly a job of our web team, where anyone is welcome, just join the webteam mailing list and ask there for an account.
Well, somehow I missed/forgot the existence of that mailing list. That was one of the reasons why I started the "Merge mailing lists?" thread.
Cheers, Bernhard _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam
-- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565 _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam
Bernhard Pieber pravi:
By the way, when I changed the formatting on the Teams page, the first cell of the table changed automatically from box admins to "> box admins. When I fixed that, the third cell changed from advisor to advisor td>. I finally fixed that to board advisor. However, this makes me fairly anxious to change something. Any ideas what might be the reason for this?
I can't reproduce your problem. In any case, if you have such problem next time, you can go to raw HTML programming by adding mode=raw to url, like:
/Community/Teams/?view=edit&version=51&mode=raw
This way you can solve such problems which sometimes occur, specially if someone copy/paste from MS Word directly. What a mess this causes, better don't ask...
By the way, is there a way to view the diffs between different versions of a page?
Comming soon :)
By teh way, anyone know a good algorithm to doing and showing such diffs? Or a website with a nice example?
Best regards Janko
Am 09.07.2009 um 15:37 schrieb Janko Mivšek:
Bernhard Pieber pravi:
By the way, is there a way to view the diffs between different versions of a page?
Comming soon :)
By teh way, anyone know a good algorithm to doing and showing such diffs? Or a website with a nice example?
Our Swiki does this. It does not look as nice as it could. However, it would be better than nothing.
Confluence does it as well. See here, for example: http://confluence.immuexa.com/pages/diffpages.action?originalId=14404&pa...
Cheers, Bernhard
Am 09.07.2009 um 15:37 schrieb Janko Mivšek:
Bernhard Pieber pravi: By the way, when I changed the formatting on the Teams page, the first
cell of the table changed automatically from box admins to "> box admins. When I fixed that, the third cell changed from advisor to advisor td>. I finally fixed that to board advisor. However, this makes me fairly anxious to change something. Any ideas what might be the reason for this?
I can't reproduce your problem.
I can reproduce similar problems almost every time I use Safari to edit. See the following screenshot:
Do you see the ="40" cols="100" mce_editable="true"> on the top of the page?
I tried in Firefox and I did not see any problems there. So I will use that in the future. A fix would be cool anyway. ;-)
Cheers, Bernhard
In any case, if you have such problem next time, you can go to raw HTML programming by adding mode=raw to url, like:
/Community/Teams/?view=edit&version=51&mode=raw
Thanks for the tip. I tried it but frankly that's a little bit too raw for my taste? ;-) I guess there is no Swiki markup version available, only MCEditor or HTML, right?
Cheers, Bernhard
Hi Janko,
I know I am new to this list. Still I would like to suggest moving the discussions over to Squeak-dev. In the first half of 2009 only 26 messages were posted to this mailing list. I don't think that traffic here and on Squeak-dev warrants a separate mailing list today. And I think it would be good to know for the whole Squeak community what goes on on www.squeak.org.
Cheers, Bernhard
Am 29.06.2009 um 21:47 schrieb Janko Mivšek:
Hi Bernhard,
You flatered me too soon, now I'm slow as a snail :)
I opened you the account, more in private mail. Please make a brief report here n the list after changes you'll make. That's actually the reason for that list, to separate such posts from more geenral on squeak-dev. But I agree, a lot of mailing lists are to be closed.
JAnko
Bernhard Pieber pravi:
Am 28.06.2009 um 21:18 schrieb Janko Mivšek:
Done! Thanks for notifying us that!
Thanks for the fast response. May I suggest you also add it to the Organization (it is still called Squeak Foundation Board there) and maybe also the Team page? If you gave me a login, I'd fix it myself. ;-)
About updating main website, this is mainly a job of our web team, where anyone is welcome, just join the webteam mailing list and ask there for an account.
Well, somehow I missed/forgot the existence of that mailing list. That was one of the reasons why I started the "Merge mailing lists?" thread.
Cheers, Bernhard _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam
-- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565 _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam
Hi Bernhard,
Bernhard Pieber pravi:
I know I am new to this list. Still I would like to suggest moving the discussions over to Squeak-dev. In the first half of 2009 only 26 messages were posted to this mailing list. I don't think that traffic here and on Squeak-dev warrants a separate mailing list today. And I think it would be good to know for the whole Squeak community what goes on on www.squeak.org.
You are new but also very active and willing to do something. Which is very nice and encouraging to us too. Guys like you will move Squeak forward, that's I'm sure.
Of course there are many "legacy" reasons why something is as it is, and needs to be revised and changed, but this needs to be done carefully and with broader consensus.
I also think that we need to reduce mailing lists to just a few, or at least to close those which are completely inactive for years. This is actually happening because the Teams are reviewed to see which are active and which not. I suppose Ken will come out soon with some decision here.
About our mailing list. We have bursts of activity from time to time and 30 people on the list, Ken and Igor from the Board included. I think this list is still needed for the messages concerning the routine website updates while for more important updates the broader discussion on squeak-dev is necessary of course.
Best regards Janko
Cheers, Bernhard
Am 29.06.2009 um 21:47 schrieb Janko Mivšek:
Hi Bernhard,
You flatered me too soon, now I'm slow as a snail :)
I opened you the account, more in private mail. Please make a brief report here n the list after changes you'll make. That's actually the reason for that list, to separate such posts from more geenral on squeak-dev. But I agree, a lot of mailing lists are to be closed.
JAnko
Bernhard Pieber pravi:
Am 28.06.2009 um 21:18 schrieb Janko Mivšek:
Done! Thanks for notifying us that!
Thanks for the fast response. May I suggest you also add it to the Organization (it is still called Squeak Foundation Board there) and maybe also the Team page? If you gave me a login, I'd fix it myself. ;-)
About updating main website, this is mainly a job of our web team, where anyone is welcome, just join the webteam mailing list and ask there for an account.
Well, somehow I missed/forgot the existence of that mailing list. That was one of the reasons why I started the "Merge mailing lists?" thread.
Cheers, Bernhard _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam
-- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565 _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam
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Am 09.07.2009 um 15:15 schrieb Janko Mivšek:
About our mailing list. We have bursts of activity from time to time and 30 people on the list, Ken and Igor from the Board included. I think this list is still needed for the messages concerning the routine website updates while for more important updates the broader discussion on squeak-dev is necessary of course.
I expected this answer. ;-) See, one of the problems is to decide which is which. When I wrote my last mail about the policy regarding www.squeak.org versus Swiki I wasted some time to think about whether it was relevant to the whole community. I decided not to cross-post because I feared it might upset some Webteam subscribers. However, now I think it was a mistake because the community is the main client for both and should have a say about it.
In short, cognitive dissonance. I hate it. Stupid for sure, but that's how I work. Sorry for the rant.
Cheers, Bernhard
My position is that this ML should be maintained because it is a bit separate from the squeak-dev list as it pertains only to the presentation of squeak on the web. Also, when a visitor has a suggestion or issue to the website, it finds it's where here.
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Bernhard Pieberbernhard@pieber.com wrote:
Hi Janko,
I know I am new to this list. Still I would like to suggest moving the discussions over to Squeak-dev. In the first half of 2009 only 26 messages were posted to this mailing list. I don't think that traffic here and on Squeak-dev warrants a separate mailing list today. And I think it would be good to know for the whole Squeak community what goes on on www.squeak.org.
Cheers, Bernhard
Am 29.06.2009 um 21:47 schrieb Janko Mivšek:
Hi Bernhard,
You flatered me too soon, now I'm slow as a snail :)
I opened you the account, more in private mail. Please make a brief report here n the list after changes you'll make. That's actually the reason for that list, to separate such posts from more geenral on squeak-dev. But I agree, a lot of mailing lists are to be closed.
JAnko
Bernhard Pieber pravi:
Am 28.06.2009 um 21:18 schrieb Janko Mivšek:
Done! Thanks for notifying us that!
Thanks for the fast response. May I suggest you also add it to the Organization (it is still called Squeak Foundation Board there) and maybe also the Team page? If you gave me a login, I'd fix it myself. ;-)
About updating main website, this is mainly a job of our web team, where anyone is welcome, just join the webteam mailing list and ask there for an account.
Well, somehow I missed/forgot the existence of that mailing list. That was one of the reasons why I started the "Merge mailing lists?" thread.
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