Hi,
There is a complaint from undernet about our server.
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: [REF#: 1257]: To whom it may concern Datum: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:59:03 +0000 Von: deathy@undernet.org Antwort an: deathy@undernet.org An: abuse@hetzner.de
Security coordinators,
I found these suspicious looking connections on the Undernet IRC Chat Network connecting from a netblock you control. The originating ip(s) and undernet server(s) each one was connected to is listed below. The destination port they were using is most likely port 6667. Other possible ports are included between 6000-9999 (a full list of our servers can be found at www.undernet.org/servers.php ).
box2!~box@box2.squeakfoundation.org [85.10.195.197] - DIEMEN.NL.EU
Please check for a compromise, possible hidden process running and an altered process listing. Run the updates for your system to close possible exploit holes, and send any unusual programs found to info@cyberabuse.org for investigation.
We strive to eliminate these abusive connections from our network, but simply banning them can only be a temporary solution. We hope to work with authorities to achieve our aim of reducing abuse on our network, as well as the general internet community.
If you are not familiar with it, IRC is a text based chat communication medium, details at:
and our webpage:
www.undernet.org
Time of capture for the affected IP(s) is: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:44:05 +0000
We have assigned an internal reference number 1257 to this report and it is included in the subject line of this e-mail message. We would appreciate your including it in the subject line of future correspondence about this report. We would really appreciate your cooperation in looking into this matter.
Please take into account that most bots used these days are either GTbots (used on Windows and which can be found by searching for a file named mirc.ini which is normally required to run these bots) or emechs (used on linux/unix which can be generally found easily by doing a: find . -exec grep -l "undernet.org" {} + )
Thank you for your cooperation.
Regards,
Caesar Stoica
Undernet Irc Operator www.undernet.org
-- Marcus Denker -- denker@iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker
Marcus Denker wrote:
Hi,
There is a complaint from undernet about our server.
I received that, too, but I really have no idea what action is required in such a case. For the future, will it be ok just to forward this message to squeakfoundation?
Best Regards, Rita
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: [REF#: 1257]: To whom it may concern Datum: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:59:03 +0000 Von: deathy@undernet.org Antwort an: deathy@undernet.org An: abuse@hetzner.de
Security coordinators,
I found these suspicious looking connections on the Undernet IRC Chat Network connecting from a netblock you control. The originating ip(s) and undernet server(s) each one was connected to is listed below. The destination port they were using is most likely port 6667. Other possible ports are included between 6000-9999 (a full list of our servers can be found at www.undernet.org/servers.php ).
box2!~box@box2.squeakfoundation.org [85.10.195.197] - DIEMEN.NL.EU
Please check for a compromise, possible hidden process running and an altered process listing. Run the updates for your system to close possible exploit holes, and send any unusual programs found to info@cyberabuse.org for investigation.
We strive to eliminate these abusive connections from our network, but simply banning them can only be a temporary solution. We hope to work with authorities to achieve our aim of reducing abuse on our network, as well as the general internet community.
If you are not familiar with it, IRC is a text based chat communication medium, details at:
and our webpage:
www.undernet.org
Time of capture for the affected IP(s) is: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:44:05 +0000
We have assigned an internal reference number 1257 to this report and it is included in the subject line of this e-mail message. We would appreciate your including it in the subject line of future correspondence about this report. We would really appreciate your cooperation in looking into this matter.
Please take into account that most bots used these days are either GTbots (used on Windows and which can be found by searching for a file named mirc.ini which is normally required to run these bots) or emechs (used on linux/unix which can be generally found easily by doing a: find . -exec grep -l "undernet.org" {} + )
Thank you for your cooperation.
Regards,
Caesar Stoica
Undernet Irc Operator www.undernet.org
-- Marcus Denker -- denker@iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker
On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 09:56 +0100, Rita Freudenberg wrote:
Marcus Denker wrote:
Hi,
There is a complaint from undernet about our server.
I received that, too, but I really have no idea what action is required in such a case. For the future, will it be ok just to forward this message to squeakfoundation?
Best Regards, Rita
Forwarding it to box-admins@lists.squeakfoundation.org is certainly a good start. I would also recommend Ccing board@lists.squeakfoundation.org so that the Leadership Team is also aware of any potential issues.
This brings up a question. Who now is my go-between with Hetzner? Marcus or you? Or both? As I see it, as the box-admins team leader, on issues of utility and content I am answerable to the Leadership Team, as my team members are to me. However I'm also answerable to whoever is responsible from Hetzner's standpoint for issues regarding them and over which I have some control.
If you are going to be responsible now for any part of this I suggest you join the box-admins team mailing list
http://list.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/box-admins
so you are aware of the occasional discussions. This will also of course allow you to post to the list without moderation delays.
Ken
Ken Causey wrote:
On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 09:56 +0100, Rita Freudenberg wrote:
Marcus Denker wrote:
Hi,
There is a complaint from undernet about our server.
I received that, too, but I really have no idea what action is required in such a case. For the future, will it be ok just to forward this message to squeakfoundation?
Best Regards, Rita
Forwarding it to box-admins@lists.squeakfoundation.org is certainly a good start. I would also recommend Ccing board@lists.squeakfoundation.org so that the Leadership Team is also aware of any potential issues.
This brings up a question. Who now is my go-between with Hetzner? Marcus or you?
Marcus, if I did understand you right, then you offered to be the go-between with Hetzner and squeakfoundation?
I will be responsible for the financial side of this :)
Best Regards, Rita
Or both? As I see it, as the box-admins team leader, on issues of utility and content I am answerable to the Leadership Team, as my team members are to me. However I'm also answerable to whoever is responsible from Hetzner's standpoint for issues regarding them and over which I have some control.
If you are going to be responsible now for any part of this I suggest you join the box-admins team mailing list
http://list.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/box-admins
so you are aware of the occasional discussions. This will also of course allow you to post to the list without moderation delays.
Ken
On 05.02.2009, at 11:02, Rita Freudenberg wrote:
This brings up a question. Who now is my go-between with Hetzner? Marcus or you?
Marcus, if I did understand you right, then you offered to be the go- between with Hetzner and squeakfoundation?
Yes.
-- Marcus Denker -- denker@iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker
From the statement 'I found these suspicious looking connections...' I would expect to see a bit more detail. I can only assume 'these' is meant to refer to the one line
box2!~box@box2.squeakfoundation.org [85.10.195.197] - DIEMEN.NL.EU
Is DIEMEN.NL.EU meant to be the IRC server to which the connnection was made?
As I understand it the connection happened at Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:44:05 +0000 but I'm curious about the length of the connection and any other detail that might help us identify the activity or person.
As far as I can tell I was the only one on the server at the time and and I don't remember doing anything that would have resulted in an IRC connection of any kind. In fact I'm not aware of any IRC software installed on the server.
Ken
On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 09:42 +0100, Marcus Denker wrote:
Hi,
There is a complaint from undernet about our server.
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: [REF#: 1257]: To whom it may concern Datum: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:59:03 +0000 Von: deathy@undernet.org Antwort an: deathy@undernet.org An: abuse@hetzner.de
Security coordinators,
I found these suspicious looking connections on the Undernet IRC Chat Network connecting from a netblock you control. The originating ip(s) and undernet server(s) each one was connected to is listed below. The destination port they were using is most likely port 6667. Other possible ports are included between 6000-9999 (a full list of our servers can be found at www.undernet.org/servers.php ).
box2!~box@box2.squeakfoundation.org [85.10.195.197] - DIEMEN.NL.EU
Please check for a compromise, possible hidden process running and an altered process listing. Run the updates for your system to close possible exploit holes, and send any unusual programs found to info@cyberabuse.org for investigation.
We strive to eliminate these abusive connections from our network, but simply banning them can only be a temporary solution. We hope to work with authorities to achieve our aim of reducing abuse on our network, as well as the general internet community.
If you are not familiar with it, IRC is a text based chat communication medium, details at:
and our webpage:
www.undernet.org
Time of capture for the affected IP(s) is: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:44:05 +0000
We have assigned an internal reference number 1257 to this report and it is included in the subject line of this e-mail message. We would appreciate your including it in the subject line of future correspondence about this report. We would really appreciate your cooperation in looking into this matter.
Please take into account that most bots used these days are either GTbots (used on Windows and which can be found by searching for a file named mirc.ini which is normally required to run these bots) or emechs (used on linux/unix which can be generally found easily by doing a: find . -exec grep -l "undernet.org" {} + )
Thank you for your cooperation.
Regards,
Caesar Stoica
Undernet Irc Operator www.undernet.org
-- Marcus Denker -- denker@iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker
Hello,
The connection in question was found on a much larger channel filled with connections (bouncers and bots) running on compromised servers, most of the abuse contacts mailed in the same batch have replied confirming the connections were not wanted, nor allowed by the owhers (that's what was ment by suspicious connections, since it's rather unlikely that a romanian person will get legit access to a foreign server to run a bot/bouncer). I apologise for not being able to offer more info, but due to our AUP i am under certain restrictions (also, router/server logs are unavailable since i'm just an oper, not a server admin).
btw:
box2 is ~box@box2.squeakfoundation.org * box * box2 using Helsinki.FI.EU.Undernet.org Wireless Hippies - http://www.wippies.com/ box2 End of /WHOIS list.
current date and time: 20:02 GMT, 03.02.2009.
best wishes,
Caesar Stoica -------------- Undernet Irc Operator www.undernet.org
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Ken Causey wrote:
From the statement 'I found these suspicious looking connections...' I would expect to see a bit more detail. I can only assume 'these' is meant to refer to the one line
box2!~box@box2.squeakfoundation.org [85.10.195.197] - DIEMEN.NL.EU
Is DIEMEN.NL.EU meant to be the IRC server to which the connnection was made?
As I understand it the connection happened at Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:44:05 +0000 but I'm curious about the length of the connection and any other detail that might help us identify the activity or person.
As far as I can tell I was the only one on the server at the time and and I don't remember doing anything that would have resulted in an IRC connection of any kind. In fact I'm not aware of any IRC software installed on the server.
Ken
On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 09:42 +0100, Marcus Denker wrote:
Hi,
There is a complaint from undernet about our server.
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: [REF#: 1257]: To whom it may concern Datum: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:59:03 +0000 Von: deathy@undernet.org Antwort an: deathy@undernet.org An: abuse@hetzner.de
Security coordinators,
I found these suspicious looking connections on the Undernet IRC Chat Network connecting from a netblock you control. The originating ip(s) and undernet server(s) each one was connected to is listed below. The destination port they were using is most likely port 6667. Other possible ports are included between 6000-9999 (a full list of our servers can be found at www.undernet.org/servers.php ).
box2!~box@box2.squeakfoundation.org [85.10.195.197] - DIEMEN.NL.EU
Please check for a compromise, possible hidden process running and an altered process listing. Run the updates for your system to close possible exploit holes, and send any unusual programs found to info@cyberabuse.org for investigation.
We strive to eliminate these abusive connections from our network, but simply banning them can only be a temporary solution. We hope to work with authorities to achieve our aim of reducing abuse on our network, as well as the general internet community.
If you are not familiar with it, IRC is a text based chat communication medium, details at:
and our webpage:
www.undernet.org
Time of capture for the affected IP(s) is: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:44:05 +0000
We have assigned an internal reference number 1257 to this report and it is included in the subject line of this e-mail message. We would appreciate your including it in the subject line of future correspondence about this report. We would really appreciate your cooperation in looking into this matter.
Please take into account that most bots used these days are either GTbots (used on Windows and which can be found by searching for a file named mirc.ini which is normally required to run these bots) or emechs (used on linux/unix which can be generally found easily by doing a: find . -exec grep -l "undernet.org" {} + )
Thank you for your cooperation.
Regards,
Caesar Stoica
Undernet Irc Operator www.undernet.org
-- Marcus Denker -- denker@iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker
Well, it turns out that there was really something to this:
Yesterday I kept looking and I found a connection from our system to the IRC server deathy mentioned in a seperate email. The process making the connection was a bash process, and this is all I could tell from the output of ps. I killed it, the connection went away. This was fairly late in the day so I more or less left it at that.
I checked again this morning and found the process back again. I killed it again, but this time I checked back every few minutes. It took only a few minutes and it reappeared. Huh. crontab -l (for root) showed why. I commented out the crontab entry and killed the process again. As of now it has not reappeared. I left the commented out crontab entry and it points to stuff in /usr/local/games/ which I have left for now. I'm examining it and I welcome examination from others. At the moment it looks like this stuff was installed around Oct 31st, but that's just a quick guess. I don't know much yet, I don't even know if there is other stuff we should be looking for.
Relatedly, when we had trouble with the server in October we temporarily set a rather easy root password. I meant to change it and let everyone relevant know, I thought I did. But I can't find a record of doing so. Can anyone confirm that we changed it or not? In any case perhaps we should change it again.
Ken
On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 09:42 +0100, Marcus Denker wrote:
Hi,
There is a complaint from undernet about our server.
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: [REF#: 1257]: To whom it may concern Datum: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:59:03 +0000 Von: deathy@undernet.org Antwort an: deathy@undernet.org An: abuse@hetzner.de
Security coordinators,
I found these suspicious looking connections on the Undernet IRC Chat Network connecting from a netblock you control. The originating ip(s) and undernet server(s) each one was connected to is listed below. The destination port they were using is most likely port 6667. Other possible ports are included between 6000-9999 (a full list of our servers can be found at www.undernet.org/servers.php ).
box2!~box@box2.squeakfoundation.org [85.10.195.197] - DIEMEN.NL.EU
Please check for a compromise, possible hidden process running and an altered process listing. Run the updates for your system to close possible exploit holes, and send any unusual programs found to info@cyberabuse.org for investigation.
We strive to eliminate these abusive connections from our network, but simply banning them can only be a temporary solution. We hope to work with authorities to achieve our aim of reducing abuse on our network, as well as the general internet community.
If you are not familiar with it, IRC is a text based chat communication medium, details at:
and our webpage:
www.undernet.org
Time of capture for the affected IP(s) is: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:44:05 +0000
We have assigned an internal reference number 1257 to this report and it is included in the subject line of this e-mail message. We would appreciate your including it in the subject line of future correspondence about this report. We would really appreciate your cooperation in looking into this matter.
Please take into account that most bots used these days are either GTbots (used on Windows and which can be found by searching for a file named mirc.ini which is normally required to run these bots) or emechs (used on linux/unix which can be generally found easily by doing a: find . -exec grep -l "undernet.org" {} + )
Thank you for your cooperation.
Regards,
Caesar Stoica
Undernet Irc Operator www.undernet.org
-- Marcus Denker -- denker@iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker
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