Hi All,
All data from the old mailman setup is on box2:/mm
I'm going to tune the TTL down for lists.squeakfoundation.org so we can quickly transfer.
Who can finish the mailman configuration? I'm off in a minute, have to visit my sister, won't be back before late tonight and then I need to concentrate on getting this old machine emptied from its services before it crashes&burns...
-- Help my girlfriend's family after Katrina - http://swiki.cdegroot.com/katrina
I'm looking into it, but having had no prior experience with setting up mailman (and having other work I have to do) I make no promises as to how quickly I can finish this or if I even can. I welcome assistance from anyone with mailman assistance, particularly in a qmail environment.
Cees: Is there anyway we can get the current alias setup for the lists? Or are we going to have to recreate that by hand?
Ken
On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 17:03 +0200, Cees De Groot wrote:
Hi All,
All data from the old mailman setup is on box2:/mm
I'm going to tune the TTL down for lists.squeakfoundation.org so we can quickly transfer.
Who can finish the mailman configuration? I'm off in a minute, have to visit my sister, won't be back before late tonight and then I need to concentrate on getting this old machine emptied from its services before it crashes&burns...
-- Help my girlfriend's family after Katrina - http://swiki.cdegroot.com/katrina
root@lnx-12:/var/spool/vpopmail/domains/lists.squeakfoundation.org# cat .qmail-default |preline /usr/bin/python /home/mailman/bin/qmail-to-mailman.py
So we haven't used individual alias files, just one script - dunnow whether it is standard mailman issue, so I reproduce it here:
#! /usr/bin/env python
# Configuration variables - Change these for your site if necessary. MailmanHome = "/home/mailman"; # Mailman home directory. MailmanOwner = "postmaster@localhost"; # Postmaster and abuse mail recepient. # End of configuration variables.
# qmail-to-mailman.py # # Interface mailman to a qmail virtual domain. Does not require the creation # of _any_ aliases to connect lists to your mail system. # # Bruce Perens, bruce@perens.com, March 1999. # This is free software under the GNU General Public License. # # This script is meant to be called from ~mailman/.qmail-default . It catches # all mail to a virtual domain, in my case "lists.hams.com". It looks at the # recepient for each mail message and decides if the mail is addressed to a # valid list or not, and bounces the message with a helpful suggestion if it's # not addressed to a list. It decides if it is a posting, a list command, or # mail to the list administrator, by checking for the -admin, -owner, and # -request addresses. It will recognize a list as soon as the list is created, # there is no need to add _any_ aliases for any list. It recognizes mail to # postmaster, mailman-owner, abuse, mailer-daemon, root, and owner, and # routes those mails to MailmanOwner as defined in the configuration # variables, above. # # INSTALLATION: # # Install this file as ~mailman/qmail-to-mailman.py # # To configure a virtual domain to connect to mailman, create these files: # # ~mailman/.qmail-default # |preline /usr/bin/python /home/mailman/mail-in.py # # /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains: # DOMAIN.COM:mailman # # Note: "preline" is a QMail program which ensures a Unix "From " header is # on the message. Archiving will break without this. # # Replace DOMAIN.COM above with the name of the domain to be connected to # Mailman. Note that _all_ mail to that domain will go to Mailman, so you # don't want to put the name of your main domain here. In my case, I created # lists.hams.com for Mailman, and I use hams.com as my regular domain. # # After you edit /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains, kill and restart qmail. #
import sys, os, re, string
DBG = open("/tmp/debug.log", "w")
def main(): DBG.write("click 1\n"); DBG.flush() os.nice(5) # Handle mailing lists at non-interactive priority.
DBG.write("click 1\n"); DBG.flush() os.chdir(MailmanHome + "/lists")
DBG.write("click 1\n"); DBG.flush() try: local = os.environ["LOCAL"] except: # This might happen if we're not using qmail. sys.stderr.write("LOCAL not set in environment?\n") sys.exit(100)
DBG.write("pre local: %s\n" % local); DBG.flush() local = string.lower(local) local = re.sub("^mailman-","",local) DBG.write("post local: %s\n" % local); DBG.flush()
names = ("root", "postmaster", "mailer-daemon", "mailman-owner", "owner", "abuse", "mailman") for i in names: if i == local: os.execv("/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject", ("/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject", MailmanOwner)) sys.exit(0)
type = "post" types = (("-admin$", "admin"), ("-bounces$", "bounces"), ("-confirm$", "confirm"), ("-join$", "join"), ("-leave$", "leave"), ("-owner$", "owner"), ("-request$", "request"), ("-subscribe$", "subscribe"), ("-unsubscribe$", "unsubscribe"))
for i in types: if re.search(i[0],local): type = i[1] local = re.sub(i[0],"",local)
DBG.write('type: %s\n' % type); DBG.flush() if os.path.exists(local): os.execv(MailmanHome + "/mail/mailman", (MailmanHome + "/mail/mailman", type, local)) else: bounce() DBG.write('oops\n'); DBG.flush() sys.exit(111)
def bounce(): bounce_message = """\ TO ACCESS THE MAILING LIST SYSTEM: Start your web browser on http://%s/ That web page will help you subscribe or unsubscribe, and will give you directions on how to post to each mailing list.\n""" sys.stderr.write(bounce_message % (os.environ["HOST"])) sys.stderr.write("local = %s\n" % os.environ["LOCAL"]) sys.exit(100)
try: sys.exit(main()) except SystemExit, argument: sys.exit(argument)
except Exception, argument: info = sys.exc_info() trace = info[2] sys.stderr.write("%s %s\n" % (sys.exc_type, argument)) sys.stderr.write("Line %d\n" % (trace.tb_lineno)) sys.exit(111) # Soft failure, try again later.
On 9/28/05, Ken Causey ken@kencausey.com wrote:
I'm looking into it, but having had no prior experience with setting up mailman (and having other work I have to do) I make no promises as to how quickly I can finish this or if I even can. I welcome assistance from anyone with mailman assistance, particularly in a qmail environment.
Cees: Is there anyway we can get the current alias setup for the lists? Or are we going to have to recreate that by hand?
Ken
On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 17:03 +0200, Cees De Groot wrote:
Hi All,
All data from the old mailman setup is on box2:/mm
I'm going to tune the TTL down for lists.squeakfoundation.org so we can quickly transfer.
Who can finish the mailman configuration? I'm off in a minute, have to visit my sister, won't be back before late tonight and then I need to concentrate on getting this old machine emptied from its services before it crashes&burns...
-- Help my girlfriend's family after Katrina - http://swiki.cdegroot.com/katrina
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux)
iD8DBQBDOuKm//qOUj3eKgMRArH0AJ4nbKw3He+cROO0mwqh5ekf9atpkQCfU2F/ BT7gRZtYEasZ/3aaUgaLijY= =urzs -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-- Help my girlfriend's family after Katrina - http://swiki.cdegroot.com/katrina
OK, as I said I'm a bit clueless about mailman, particularly with qmail. I was just reading about that script wondering whether or not to use it, so I guess the answer is yes. And it is included with the Debian package. Thanks.
Ken
On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 20:44 +0200, Cees De Groot wrote:
root@lnx-12:/var/spool/vpopmail/domains/lists.squeakfoundation.org# cat .qmail-default |preline /usr/bin/python /home/mailman/bin/qmail-to-mailman.py
So we haven't used individual alias files, just one script - dunnow whether it is standard mailman issue, so I reproduce it here:
#! /usr/bin/env python
# Configuration variables - Change these for your site if necessary. MailmanHome = "/home/mailman"; # Mailman home directory. MailmanOwner = "postmaster@localhost"; # Postmaster and abuse mail recepient. # End of configuration variables.
# qmail-to-mailman.py # # Interface mailman to a qmail virtual domain. Does not require the creation # of _any_ aliases to connect lists to your mail system. # # Bruce Perens, bruce@perens.com, March 1999. # This is free software under the GNU General Public License. # # This script is meant to be called from ~mailman/.qmail-default . It catches # all mail to a virtual domain, in my case "lists.hams.com". It looks at the # recepient for each mail message and decides if the mail is addressed to a # valid list or not, and bounces the message with a helpful suggestion if it's # not addressed to a list. It decides if it is a posting, a list command, or # mail to the list administrator, by checking for the -admin, -owner, and # -request addresses. It will recognize a list as soon as the list is created, # there is no need to add _any_ aliases for any list. It recognizes mail to # postmaster, mailman-owner, abuse, mailer-daemon, root, and owner, and # routes those mails to MailmanOwner as defined in the configuration # variables, above. # # INSTALLATION: # # Install this file as ~mailman/qmail-to-mailman.py # # To configure a virtual domain to connect to mailman, create these files: # # ~mailman/.qmail-default # |preline /usr/bin/python /home/mailman/mail-in.py # # /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains: # DOMAIN.COM:mailman # # Note: "preline" is a QMail program which ensures a Unix "From " header is # on the message. Archiving will break without this. # # Replace DOMAIN.COM above with the name of the domain to be connected to # Mailman. Note that _all_ mail to that domain will go to Mailman, so you # don't want to put the name of your main domain here. In my case, I created # lists.hams.com for Mailman, and I use hams.com as my regular domain. # # After you edit /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains, kill and restart qmail. #
import sys, os, re, string
DBG = open("/tmp/debug.log", "w")
def main(): DBG.write("click 1\n"); DBG.flush() os.nice(5) # Handle mailing lists at non-interactive priority.
DBG.write("click 1\n"); DBG.flush() os.chdir(MailmanHome + "/lists") DBG.write("click 1\n"); DBG.flush() try: local = os.environ["LOCAL"] except: # This might happen if we're not using qmail. sys.stderr.write("LOCAL not set in environment?\n") sys.exit(100) DBG.write("pre local: %s\n" % local); DBG.flush() local = string.lower(local) local = re.sub("^mailman-","",local) DBG.write("post local: %s\n" % local); DBG.flush() names = ("root", "postmaster", "mailer-daemon", "mailman-owner", "owner", "abuse", "mailman") for i in names: if i == local: os.execv("/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject", ("/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject", MailmanOwner)) sys.exit(0) type = "post" types = (("-admin$", "admin"), ("-bounces$", "bounces"), ("-confirm$", "confirm"), ("-join$", "join"), ("-leave$", "leave"), ("-owner$", "owner"), ("-request$", "request"), ("-subscribe$", "subscribe"), ("-unsubscribe$", "unsubscribe")) for i in types: if re.search(i[0],local): type = i[1] local = re.sub(i[0],"",local) DBG.write('type: %s\n' % type); DBG.flush() if os.path.exists(local): os.execv(MailmanHome + "/mail/mailman", (MailmanHome + "/mail/mailman", type, local)) else: bounce() DBG.write('oops\n'); DBG.flush() sys.exit(111)def bounce(): bounce_message = """\ TO ACCESS THE MAILING LIST SYSTEM: Start your web browser on http://%s/ That web page will help you subscribe or unsubscribe, and will give you directions on how to post to each mailing list.\n""" sys.stderr.write(bounce_message % (os.environ["HOST"])) sys.stderr.write("local = %s\n" % os.environ["LOCAL"]) sys.exit(100)
try: sys.exit(main()) except SystemExit, argument: sys.exit(argument)
except Exception, argument: info = sys.exc_info() trace = info[2] sys.stderr.write("%s %s\n" % (sys.exc_type, argument)) sys.stderr.write("Line %d\n" % (trace.tb_lineno)) sys.exit(111) # Soft failure, try again later.
On 9/28/05, Ken Causey ken@kencausey.com wrote:
I'm looking into it, but having had no prior experience with setting up mailman (and having other work I have to do) I make no promises as to how quickly I can finish this or if I even can. I welcome assistance from anyone with mailman assistance, particularly in a qmail environment.
Cees: Is there anyway we can get the current alias setup for the lists? Or are we going to have to recreate that by hand?
Ken
On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 17:03 +0200, Cees De Groot wrote:
Hi All,
All data from the old mailman setup is on box2:/mm
I'm going to tune the TTL down for lists.squeakfoundation.org so we can quickly transfer.
Who can finish the mailman configuration? I'm off in a minute, have to visit my sister, won't be back before late tonight and then I need to concentrate on getting this old machine emptied from its services before it crashes&burns...
-- Help my girlfriend's family after Katrina - http://swiki.cdegroot.com/katrina
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux)
iD8DBQBDOuKm//qOUj3eKgMRArH0AJ4nbKw3He+cROO0mwqh5ekf9atpkQCfU2F/ BT7gRZtYEasZ/3aaUgaLijY= =urzs -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-- Help my girlfriend's family after Katrina - http://swiki.cdegroot.com/katrina
Just a notice that I've made some progress but I have to stop working on this for today.
I tried to configure qmail with a test hostname of liststest.squeakfoundation.org and set that up in DNS and everything. I created the ~list/.qmail-default file (after changing ~list to /var/lib/mailman) and test copied the squeak-harvest list into the appropriate locations. I've got basic web access working and you can look at the squeak-harvest archives (and I can configure the list). But right now you can't reply to the subscription confirmation because you get a 'no such mailbox' kind of error in response.
I'll get back into this tomorrow.
Ken
OK, I think I've got the basic problems sorted out and I am now getting the existing lists setup. I will then reconfigure everything to use lists. and update DNS. I hope to have us back in business in the next hour or so.
Ken
Kewlness :). I'm home and barring some laundry delays available if something is fouled up.
On 9/29/05, Ken Causey ken@kencausey.com wrote:
OK, barring DNS propogation delay I think we are back in business now.
Ken
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux)
iD8DBQBDPBvk//qOUj3eKgMRAuMeAJ9FQziTFiNDtNFXd2q3X0pqNE651gCbBTZJ 7wpFOPvOyZ0J4HZhGMGFi3Y= =Vab7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-- Help my girlfriend's family after Katrina - http://swiki.cdegroot.com/katrina
Thanks, if you can find the time I would appreciate you giving it all a good check to see if it looks kosher. Also if you have any qmail tuning to help with handling the now higher traffic that would be good.
Ken
On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 18:58 +0200, Cees De Groot wrote:
Kewlness :). I'm home and barring some laundry delays available if something is fouled up.
On 9/29/05, Ken Causey ken@kencausey.com wrote:
OK, barring DNS propogation delay I think we are back in business now.
Ken
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux)
iD8DBQBDPBvk//qOUj3eKgMRAuMeAJ9FQziTFiNDtNFXd2q3X0pqNE651gCbBTZJ 7wpFOPvOyZ0J4HZhGMGFi3Y= =Vab7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-- Help my girlfriend's family after Katrina - http://swiki.cdegroot.com/katrina
On 9/29/05, Ken Causey ken@kencausey.com wrote:
Thanks, if you can find the time I would appreciate you giving it all a good check to see if it looks kosher. Also if you have any qmail tuning to help with handling the now higher traffic that would be good.
I'll try to give it a peek and see whether I can find something.
And don't worry about the 'higher traffic'. Qmail will not even notice it ;)
box-admins@lists.squeakfoundation.org
-
Cees De Groot -
Ken Causey