Vm-dev April 2006

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Fwd: Building Unix Squeak VM On Intel Mac
by John M McIntosh 01 Apr '06

01 Apr '06

fyi, carbon vm on mac intel Carbon VM 3.8.11beta5U, versus unix out of the box non-gnuified and unix out of the box gnuified with fixes to avoid crash on startup. Thanks to Todd for doing this work, I'll work with a bit more to see if we can improve the poor raw performance. Begin forwarded message: > From: Todd Blanchard <tblanchard(a)mac.com> > Date: March 31, 2006 11:33:22 PM PST > To: johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com > Subject: Re: Building Unix Squeak VM On Intel Mac > > Ok - if I do that: > > Squeak-3.8a1 Unix VM compiled using INTERP=interp (no gnuify): > > From Squeak3.8 of '5 May 2005' [latest update: #6665] on 31 March > 2006 at 11:04:41 pm > > Benchmark #1: 9713ms > --------------------- > uptime 9.7s > full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime) > incr 1634 totalling 345ms (4.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms > tenures 4 (avg 408 GCs/tenure) > > Benchmark #2: 55247ms > --------------------- > uptime 55.3s > full 15 totalling 1,256ms (2.0% uptime), avg 84.0ms > incr 29544 totalling 6,133ms (11.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms > tenures 2,143 (avg 13 GCs/tenure) > > Benchmark #3: 19737ms > --------------------- > uptime 19.8s > full 1 totalling 103ms (1.0% uptime), avg 103.0ms > incr 1954 totalling 571ms (3.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms > tenures 122 (avg 16 GCs/tenure) > > Benchmark #4: 0ms > --------------------- > uptime 0.0s > full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime) > incr 1 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms > tenures 0 > > Benchmark #5: 0ms > --------------------- > uptime 0.0s > full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime) > incr 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime), avg > tenures 0 > > Benchmark #6: 8958ms > --------------------- > uptime 9.0s > full 1 totalling 79ms (1.0% uptime), avg 79.0ms > incr 2810 totalling 591ms (7.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms > tenures 41 (avg 68 GCs/tenure) > > Benchmark #7: 10402ms > --------------------- > uptime 10.4s > full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime) > incr 767 totalling 265ms (3.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms > tenures 18 (avg 42 GCs/tenure) > > --------------------- > Total time = 114459 milliseconds. > > Carbon VM 3.8.11beta5U > > From Squeak3.8 of '5 May 2005' [latest update: #6665] on 31 March > 2006 at 11:09:27 pm > > Benchmark #1: 7077ms > --------------------- > uptime 7.1s > full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime) > incr 1636 totalling 380ms (5.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms > tenures 3 (avg 545 GCs/tenure) > > Benchmark #2: 44388ms > --------------------- > uptime 44.4s > full 15 totalling 1,336ms (3.0% uptime), avg 89.0ms > incr 26721 totalling 6,170ms (14.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms > tenures 2,156 (avg 12 GCs/tenure) > > Benchmark #3: 15368ms > --------------------- > uptime 15.4s > full 1 totalling 112ms (1.0% uptime), avg 112.0ms > incr 1830 totalling 549ms (4.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms > tenures 123 (avg 14 GCs/tenure) > > Benchmark #4: 0ms > --------------------- > uptime 0.0s > full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime) > incr 1 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms > tenures 0 > > Benchmark #5: 0ms > --------------------- > uptime 0.0s > full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime) > incr 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime), avg > tenures 0 > > Benchmark #6: 6947ms > --------------------- > uptime 7.0s > full 1 totalling 86ms (1.0% uptime), avg 86.0ms > incr 2785 totalling 683ms (10.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms > tenures 42 (avg 66 GCs/tenure) > > Benchmark #7: 2872ms > --------------------- > uptime 2.9s > full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime) > incr 701 totalling 220ms (8.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms > tenures 16 (avg 43 GCs/tenure) > > --------------------- > Total time = 79524 milliseconds. > > For fun, I made the changes in the register declarations you > mentioned in gnu-interp and built another copy of the Unix VM - it > gets > > From Squeak3.8 of '5 May 2005' [latest update: #6665] on 31 March > 2006 at 11:22:34 pm > > Benchmark #1: 8900ms > --------------------- > uptime 8.9s > full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime) > incr 1635 totalling 371ms (4.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms > tenures 3 (avg 545 GCs/tenure) > > Benchmark #2: 52675ms > --------------------- > uptime 52.7s > full 15 totalling 1,264ms (2.0% uptime), avg 84.0ms > incr 28943 totalling 6,033ms (11.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms > tenures 2,148 (avg 13 GCs/tenure) > > Benchmark #3: 18877ms > --------------------- > uptime 18.9s > full 1 totalling 96ms (1.0% uptime), avg 96.0ms > incr 2008 totalling 544ms (3.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms > tenures 123 (avg 16 GCs/tenure) > > Benchmark #4: 0ms > --------------------- > uptime 0.0s > full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime) > incr 1 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms > tenures 0 > > Benchmark #5: 0ms > --------------------- > uptime 0.0s > full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime) > incr 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime), avg > tenures 0 > > Benchmark #6: 8328ms > --------------------- > uptime 8.3s > full 1 totalling 80ms (1.0% uptime), avg 80.0ms > incr 2417 totalling 512ms (6.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms > tenures 41 (avg 58 GCs/tenure) > > Benchmark #7: 10367ms > --------------------- > uptime 10.4s > full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime) > incr 760 totalling 261ms (3.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms > tenures 18 (avg 42 GCs/tenure) > > --------------------- > Total time = 109514 milliseconds. > > > On Mar 31, 2006, at 10:33 PM, John M McIntosh wrote: > >> Well I take a Squeak3.8-6665.image from the squeak.org site, load >> the benchmarks stuff from squeakMap and do >> MacroBenchmarks run >> >> mmm ya error >> >> k, so alter things a bit to avoid the error in macroBenchmark3 >> >> MacroBenchmarks>>macroBenchmark3 >> true ifTrue: [^self]. >> >> >> >> On 31-Mar-06, at 10:02 PM, Todd Blanchard wrote: >> >>> If its the Benchmarks package on squeakmap you're talking about, >>> then I can't find a one that runs to completion in my 3.8 based >>> image. Where would I find an image where the benchmarks work? >>> >>> >>> On Mar 31, 2006, at 10:41 AM, John M McIntosh wrote: >>> >>>> Ah yes, well the unix maintainer can figure out why it crashes, >>>> it's a compiler bug exposed I think due to a choice he made. If >>>> someone is doing unix maintenance then we could undo that choice. >>>> >>>> I'm curious what type of tinybenchmark and macrobenchmarks >>>> numbers you >>>> get then as compared to the carbon mac vm universal. >>>> >>>> On 31-Mar-06, at 8:00 AM, Todd Blanchard wrote: >>>> >>>>> The VM crashes on launch in the big switch statement with a >>>>> memory access violation. >>>>> >>>>> Of course, the Intel Macs are much faster than the PPC ones - >>>>> so even with this "handicap" it seems quite a bit faster than >>>>> the PPC one. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 31, 2006, at 2:32 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 31.03.2006 um 09:29 schrieb Todd Blanchard: >>>>>>> make INTERP=interp >>>>>>> make INTERP=interp Squeak.app >>>>>> >>>>>> Ugh, does the gnuify script not work? This will severely >>>>>> effect performance. >>>>>> >>>>>> - Bert - >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> =================================================================== >>>> ======== >>>> John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> 1-800-477-2659 >>>> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http:// >>>> www.smalltalkconsulting.com >>>> =================================================================== >>>> ======== >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> ===================================================================== >> ====== >> John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> 1-800-477-2659 >> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http:// >> www.smalltalkconsulting.com >> ===================================================================== >> ====== >> > -- ======================================================================== === John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> 1-800-477-2659 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ======================================================================== ===

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